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And make sure the owners are held responsible for what's done with their guns.
What line needs to be drawn. Enforce the laws we have, leave legal gun owners alone. Pretty simple concept.
I do not live in fear of unlikely events happening.
I am addressing the OP, just not in the way you want. I am highlighting the absurdity of your argument.
Oh, and by the way, you know what is more effective than owning a gun for home invasions? Prevention.
Do you know how much a timer on a light costs? While you cannot drop the chance to zero, you can significantly reduce the chance.
And yes I am addressing the OP. I am not answering his question, but every single post has been on the very topic he started.
It's easy to create a "what if" scenario.
I'm not an "anti-gunner".
But having a gun isn't a fool-proof and definitive absolute when it comes to day-to-day survival and happiness.
Someone who doesn't want a gun can have an alarm system that sounds loud sirens, flashes lights, and immediately calls 911 for them when intruders break into their house. They could have a large dog, or multiple dogs for protection. A cell phone to call 911 immediately. Pepper spray. Tasers.
I can "what if" your scenario into:
Suppose, even if you have fully locked and loaded automatic weapons on your night stand 12 inches from your head, the "murderer" wakes you up by sticking the barrel of his 50 caliber desert eagle directly into your mouth before you can even clear your vision enough to know what's going on?
What good will your gun do you if the murderous intruder wakes you by kicking the bed while holding your daughter by the hair with a gun pointed right up under her chin?
What if the murderous intruder enters your house with no weapons, but then finds yours right nest to your bed while you're still asleep?
Seriously, people can play "what if" games until the cows come home.
Owning a gun does not make you immune to violence and or misfortune.
Not owning a gun doesn't make you irresponsible, unloving, uncaring, or ignorant.
Oh for gods sake, did I ****ing say that? No, I did not. To reduce the chance of burglary, there are a number of things you can do. A light on is just one. I did not realize this was complex.
What if the answer is not yes or no? Have you stopped beating you wife? Yes or no. Why won't you answer the question?
Seriously, this is not rocket surgery...
Are you foreign or just haven't learned how to read yet?
It's exactly as I stated, if I can't find my family members, I'd be extremely careful about firing off bullets into the shadows, I would attempt to identify the target first. So you proposed an idiotic scenario, which I sidestepped with ease, and now you're mad about it?
So you would fire randomly into the dark when your family members are in the house? Is that what you're saying?
I stopped reading at take aim at a shadow. You NEVER fire not knowing your target. That is where the training comes in. And in my case there is no teen son coming in late.
That's exactly what I'd do, RA. I'm not a bumbling idiot. If my SO was in the bedroom with me...if I didn't have kids in another room...Remember, while you've barricaded yourself in the bedroom, if the armed intruders want in? Drywall doesn't stop bullets. Will I remember that? Or will I just defend the door? Knowing what to do and being able to execute under extreme stress are two very different things. Even loading one's gun becomes a challenge as one's adrenalin starts surging through one's veins and fine motor skills turn to mush.
Holy ****. Your cowardice really does abound.
Plenty of precautions you can take without having to buy a gun which is what Redress is pointing out.
If armed men break in to my house i'm already outnumbered and they are unlikely to back down because I own a gun, a fire fight will ensue and my family will be caught in the cross fire.
I see you've mastered HTML fonts.
Other than that, you've got nothing.
If I fire in the dark from the bed, the other two guys are going to light us up from seeing my flash point.
So I'm a coward because I don't want to be killed next to my now dead wife? That's a brilliant plan you've got there.
I think we should agree on a few ground rules. Lets establish that most legal gun owners are responsible and are trained to use their weapon(s) properly, and not some trigger happy, nervous and irresponsible wannabe heroes.
We should also agree that no one is forced to purchase or make use of a deadly weapon. So lets quit the back and forth snark and admit that non of us know for sure what we would actually do, but chances are, for pure survival instinct's sake, we protect ourselves by any means possible.
Yes?
But you pointed out that I am a coward because I actually have a plan. I've run through it in my mind. The only outcome must be that my spouse and I will be alive when it's over.
There is nothing cowardly about not being a gun blazing idiot, as you and your wife would be dead.
Dig? Idiot!
Not if you have plans and instructions for your family for such an event.
Have so many people NEVER even investigated these things? Are people this complacent? OMG. I'd be even more proactive if I had a family.
I have a plan for when my parents stay with me for God's sake....and they know it.
Introducing guns to the equation only ever results in more death. I fail to see how anyone can argue against this.
Your comparing apples and oranges I have lived in both the US and the UK and socially they are very different. The chances of an armed group invading my home in the UK are slim to none and our homicide rate is very low in comparison to the US. We still have our fair share of violent crime but the large majority of it does not involve firearms and its unlikely any potential robber would carry such a weapon.
Yes but they can still subdue you with a bat or large wrench (a weapon of choice, I've read). So they can beat you all into submission and then rape your wife or daughters.
What are your plans...with no firearms, fine...to prevent the devastation of your family?
I have no objection to people deciding that firearms are 'not for them.' What I cannot comprehend is that people do not prepare and plan for protecting themselves, period. You dont need necessarily need a gun for that, at least not where you are I guess.
Yeah, d0gbreath' s stated plan for a home invasion is to offer up his wife's ass as appeasement because quote "a raped wife isn't a big deal". He then counts on these armed rapists wanting to leave witnesses.What, you assume they'll let you live after they rape her?
Just as likely shoot you both and burn the house down.
Me, I'd rather fight for my life than sit and wait to 'see what they'll do to me.'
No I would take other measures to ensure their safety like I have right now on my home. End of the day if a group of armed men enter your home your in trouble regardless of whether you are armed or not. Your already outnumbered, outgunned and you have to worry about your familys safety as well as your own. A gun will only take you so far as countless soldiers have learned over the years.
I have a nice cricket bat under my bed just in case not that I foresee myself ever using it however it is there all the same.
p.s you need to chill out a little and enjoy life. You sound very paranoid.
I am a gun owner and have ABSOLUTELY no idea what it means to be "anti-gun"
Yeah, I will say it....we do not need guns with magazines that can hold enough rounds to kill a dozen people in one fell swoop.
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