Not that. Do you always believe everything you're told at face value?
I am pretty sure Jefferson and the first Adams were not christian. In fact, they publicly ridiculed it. The only concern I have related to religion is the born-again types who can't wait for the world to end. Seems like not a great idea to give them a nuclear arsenal. Other than that, I couldn't care less.
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
You believe Obama's a Muslim... why should we believe you on this?There is so much crap being thrown aroud here.....Lets get one thing straight, Catholics and Christians are one in the same.
There is so much crap being thrown aroud here.....Lets get one thing straight, Catholics and Christians are one in the same.
John Adams was a dedicated Christian and Jefferson devised his own version of the Bible.
Are you saying Catholics and pedophiles are the same?
You believe Obama's a Muslim... why should we believe you on this?
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
When I was a kid it was remarkable that Kennedy, a Catholic, was elected.
Wouldn't it be a shame if a Jew couldn't be President?
That one little line doesn't make you Christian.
Yeah and removed all claims to divinity, a pretty big refutation of some of the core christian tenets. In particular I find this quote revealing as to why he rewrote it:
Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, April 13, 1820
So he basically thought there were some parts that were worth preserving as moral guidance, but that Jesus was not divine or rose from the dead or any of that. He also slammed other parts of the NT, such as Revelations.
Adams similarly dismissed the claims of miracles:
God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there never will be any liberal science in the world.
-- John Adams, "this awful blashpemy" that he refers to is the myth of the Incarnation of Christ, from Ira D Cardiff, What Great Men Think of Religion, quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief
So I don't know, but I don't think either could be elected today with comments like those.
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
Definitely not. But then, no one follows their religion in complete obedience, and ironically, anyone who claims they do proves their failure in so stating. Much of the religious affiliations of the presidents is like a marriage of convenience, anyway. Al Gore would've claimed he was a Rastafarian if it would've helped him win the presidency.I somehow doubt that Nixon was following Quakerism to the letter.
Mormons are christians, and they call themselves christians. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean you get to relabel them.
Definitely not. But then, no one follows their religion in complete obedience, and ironically, anyone who claims they do proves their failure in so stating. Much of the religious affiliations of the presidents is like a marriage of convenience, anyway. Al Gore would've claimed he was a Rastafarian if it would've helped him win the presidency.
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
Yeah. Really, "W" was probably the most serious concerning religion since Carter. Like them or not, they were honest and forthcoming regarding their religious beliefs. The rest, well we know the allure of power causes all kinds of twists and turns. This constant focus on "religion" rather than on "belief" is not helping our political discourse.Or Reagan suddenly finding the way to a church when running for the Presidency, and rarely after that. Like any good B actor he knew the value of a good prop and used Christian themes ahhh religiously. He was more of a fortuneteller/tarot card sorta guy in his private life. :roll:
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