Juanita
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If Texas wanted to leave the Union I would be more sympathetic if they were willing to take the other 49 states with them.
how about most of middle america too
kansas, nebraska, wyoming, etc, etc, etc
we can have 2 countries
coastal america
inner america
it almost splits that way
almost all the west coast, and east coast are blue states
and almost all the red states are in the south and middle
state governments put the question to the people of the southern states and they decided...by state convention and referendum.
Yes I would support their right to secede assuming they will be responsible for their own defense,and we won't have to give them any forign or military aid.
So what happens if the federal government doesn't allow Texas to secede? If someone can vote themselves out of the US, can other people simply vote themselves in?
We have the legal right to split in to 5 states.. That's 10 new senators from Texas. Would you be OK with 1/5th of the senators in the U.S. being from Texas?
They would kick us out before they ever allowed that to finalize
only maintain a republican form while part of the union.
they have not given away a right...first of all you cannot give away a right..second the us federal government, has verified by u.s. enabling laws, that state constitutions when the states entered the union, that there state constitutions...were not repugnant to the federal constitution and the principles of the DOI.......therefore no state constitution is outside of the law... on the right of the people to alter or abolish their government.
And they can, they can get up, pack their stuff and leave the United States. They are welcome to live anywhere else they want.
A people should have claim to the land they live and work.
It's irony. All 50 states turn and look at Washington DC and say "yeah, we're not going to revolt per-se, we're just leaving the Union".Is that supposed to make some kind of sense?
Says who? I have claim to the land where I live and work only so long as I continue to pay for it and follow the applicable laws. It isn't mine forever magically.
So what happens if the federal government doesn't allow Texas to secede? If someone can vote themselves out of the US, can other people simply vote themselves in?
this would only be an assumption.....
the u.s. government would have to come in and take over the state by marshal law, and subdue the people, and maybe even kill, which would not be good go them because others all different states would rally against the government, and they would have to act against all states, this would bring in a already small tired military, which part of the military is not going to obey the federal government.
And none of that implies in any way shape or form than if the people of NY a abolished theiir government they could legally enact a non republican form of government. Saying the people can abolish their government does not imply that they are unconstrained as to the form of a new government.
The will of the people of Texas vs the will of the Federal government - no contest. But as I stated before. The U.S. government could make life miserable on any state by imposing sanctions. And there's no state, including Texas that has all of the necessary resources to be an independent sovereign state/nation.
While unlikely anytime too soon, it's not unthinkable that one day, Texas might vote to secede from the United States and re-establish itself as an independent nation.
If done in a peaceful and democratic manner...that is, if the people of Texas overwhelmingly voted to withdraw from the U.S. In a referendum similar to the one recently held in Scotland, would you support the right of Texas to go her own way?
texas has 1 power grid to itself....that would be lost to the u.s.
Texas has access to the water....its not landlocked and can conduct trade
texas has resources ..oil..and part the u.s. strategic oil reserves of america...
Not near enough...
Not near enough...
I also support the right of Austin to secede from the rest of Texas.
really?.. Texas has more resources than most other recognized countries.
there are a few states that don't have the necessary resources for independence.. .but to argue Texas is one of them is extremely odd
there are many countries around the world who have far less the capacity of Texas, and they are independent nations.
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