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Would You Stand Up Against Hitler and his 3rd Reich?

Would you have stood up against Hitler and his 3rd Reich?


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I'm not here to fool anyone. Perhaps to help identify fools, foolishness, and absurdities.

The question is the same, and you couldn't illustrate how it was changed, because it hadn't been changed. It's the same question about what you would do in the face of evil.

Did you answer the poll and the question directly? If not, you're a coward who lacks the fortitude to answer a simple question on a website poll.

So, those who fail in such a manner, it is obvious that they wouldn't be capable of staring down and opposing evil. They're pantywaists.
You are under the mistaken impression I take commands from you. Did I answer the poll? Did I answer your question? Lol. What you think you set up the conditions I can respond with? You?

Are you that delusional you think you can control and structure what I can and can not say?

You want to lecture me on cowardly and you won't admit you stand for>

Does it look like you are manipulating anyone with your attempt to backdoor your fascist beliefs as being anti Nazi? Does it?

Well since you know your history let me just say...another day .. another chicken farmer dreaming of getting promoted to running a gas station.
 
Would you have stood up against Hitler and his 3rd Reich?
Yes, but not because a grifter like Dinesh wants me to. Rather, because if you don't crush Nazis when they are few, you have to fight them when they are a swarm.
 
Mussolini was the father of fascism. Who did Mussolini demonize before he allied with Hitler ?

"When dealing with such a race as Slavic—inferior and barbarian—we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy ... We should not be afraid of new victims ... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps ... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians ... — Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pola, 20 September 1920

Just like every communist country. You're describing collectivism, which is the core value of the political left.

"Mussolini denounced the PSI, his views now centering on Italian nationalism instead of socialism, and later founded the fascist movement which came to oppose egalitarianism"

"Mussolini drew from the works of Plato, Georges Sorel, Nietzsche, and the economic ideas of Vilfredo Pareto, to develop fascism. Mussolini admired Plato's The Republic, which he often read for inspiration.[69] The Republic expounded a number of ideas that fascism promoted, such as rule by an elite promoting the state as the ultimate end, opposition to democracy, protecting the *class system and promoting class collaboration, rejection of egalitarianism*, promoting the militarization of a nation by creating a class of warriors, demanding that citizens perform civic duties in the interest of the state, and utilizing state intervention in education to promote the development of warriors and future rulers of the state.[70]

...
Egalitarianism, or equalitarianism, is a school of thought within political philosophy that builds from the concept of social equality, prioritizing it for all people. Egalitarian doctrines are generally characterized by the idea that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or moral status. Egalitarianism is the doctrine that all citizens of a state should be accorded exactly equal rights. Egalitarian doctrines have motivated many modern social movements and ideas, including the Enlightenment, feminism, civil rights, and international human rights.

"In The Communist Manifesto, Marx himself argued that it was the goal of the proletariat itself to displace the capitalist system with socialism, changing the social relationships underpinning the class system and then developing into a future communist society in which: "the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all". This would mark the beginning of a classless society in which human needs rather than profit would be motive for production. In a society with democratic control and production for use, there would be no class, no state and no need for financial and banking institutions and money.

(Read: Marx's ideology was the opposite of Fascism)
 
Mussolini was the father of fascism. Who did Mussolini demonize before he allied with Hitler ?



Just like every communist country. You're describing collectivism, which is the core value of the political left.
No, he’s describing tribalism. Tribalism is nothing but a primitive collectivism and the right are the most enthusiastic tribalists on the planet.
 
No, he’s describing tribalism. Tribalism is nothing but a primitive collectivism and the right are the most enthusiastic tribalists on the planet.

No, you're referring to Republicans. People on the far right, like Friedman, Rand, ancaps, and libertarians in general, are all staunch individualists.
 
I'm not here to fool anyone. Perhaps to help identify fools, foolishness, and absurdities.

The question is the same, and you couldn't illustrate how it was changed, because it hadn't been changed. It's the same question about what you would do in the face of evil.

Did you answer the poll and the question directly? If not, you're a coward who lacks the fortitude to answer a simple question on a website poll.

So, those who fail in such a manner, it is obvious that they wouldn't be capable of staring down and opposing evil. They're pantywaists.
Oh no. Not a pantywaist! I'll bet he follows up with "Poopy head". I can feel it coming! Come on mule guy! Shame him with a poopyhead!
 
No, you're referring to Republicans. People on the far right, like Friedman, Rand, ancaps, and libertarians in general, are all staunch individualists.
The right talk a big game about individualism but in their big tent, it’s mostly tribalism. From monarchists to the religious, from nationalists to white supremacists, right wing thinking is dominated by the othering of different groups of people.

Even the examples you use of right wing thought not preoccupied with bigotry are problematic. By pretending historical and institutional racism are irrelevant (as you tried to do yourself in post #42), the likes of Friedman can cause real damage.

Friedman and his allies saw in the backlash to the desegregation decree an opportunity they could leverage to advance their goal of privatizing government services and resources. Whatever their personal beliefs about race and racism, they helped Jim Crow survive in America by providing ostensibly race-neutral arguments for tax subsidies to the private schools sought by white supremacists.
How Friedman Aided and Abetted Segregationists in His Quest to Privatize Public Education

Based on extensive original archival research, this paper shows how Friedman’s case for vouchers to promote “educational freedom” buttressed the case of Southern advocates of the policy of massive resistance to Brown v. Board of Education. His approach—supported by many other Mont Pelerin Society members and leading libertarians of the day --taught white supremacists a more sophisticated, and for more than a decade, court-proof way to preserve Jim Crow
How Milton Friedman Exploited White Supremacy to Privatize Education
 
The poster gives no context as to when, but I said yes in context of the failed beer hall putsch that Hitler was a leader of.

From that time on, in would have done my best to block Hitler’s rise to power as he tried to overthrow the government. I would have enlisted the aid of Lettow-Vorbeck to enlist the aid of WW1 veterans to oppose Hitler’s brownshirts if it got that far.

Don’t know if I would be successful or not, but i know that anyone who tries to overthrow the nation (like 1/6) illegally doesn’t deserve to lead.
 
Would you have stood up against Hitler and his 3rd Reich?
First of all, welcome to this site. I think you will fit in just perfectly!!! I think most every one will say yes, but most of them are just leftist keyboard cowboys and if they had to fight would just put their hair up in a man bun, throw on a quick eyeliner, slip onto their skinny jeans and penny loafers, or Jordan’s, and just scream at the top of their lungs at the brutes.

Looking forward to more threads and posts by you.
 
Would you?

Have an extensive knowledge of the political and cultural climate of the 30’s do you?

And where, specifically, are you talking about whether someone would have “stood up against Hitler”? Which country?

Please, enlighten us.
Here's the thing: Hitler had the guns. What is meant by "stand up to Hitler"? Confront him? Do that and you are dead. If "stand up" means join the underground to resist him then sure, count me in. But fighting his Wehrmacht is suicide if you aren't in a military force.
 
You are under the mistaken impression I take commands from you. Did I answer the poll? Did I answer your question? Lol. What you think you set up the conditions I can respond with? You?

Are you that delusional you think you can control and structure what I can and can not say?

You want to lecture me on cowardly and you won't admit you stand for>

Does it look like you are manipulating anyone with your attempt to backdoor your fascist beliefs as being anti Nazi? Does it?

Well since you know your history let me just say...another day .. another chicken farmer dreaming of getting promoted to running a gas station.

You are under the mistaken impression I take commands from you. Did I answer the poll? Did I answer your question? Lol. What you think you set up the conditions I can respond with? You?

Are you that delusional you think you can control and structure what I can and can not say?

You want to lecture me on cowardly and you won't admit you stand for>

Does it look like you are manipulating anyone with your attempt to backdoor your fascist beliefs as being anti Nazi? Does it?

Well since you know your history let me just say...another day .. another chicken farmer dreaming of getting promoted to running a gas station.
It's a poll. Did you answer the poll? Are you fearful of giving a reply? Why would that be? These are questions, not conditions.

Why don't you explain to me my fascist beliefs, as you seem to think I'm a fascist and know my beliefs. First, as with "conditions", I believe you should pull out a dictionary first before fashioning an answer. I'm ready to be entertained, especially by a Canadian.

You want me to admit what I stand for? Admit? Like a confession? OK, I will play along.

It is simple. Free speech and limited government for starters. Freedom from government, but not the abolition of it. What you seem to believe is (if you don't mind my laughing) "fascism". The first, free speech, isn't enshrined in Canada, the latter is being destroyed in America.

So, have you voted in the poll?
 
Here's the thing: Hitler had the guns. What is meant by "stand up to Hitler"? Confront him? Do that and you are dead. If "stand up" means join the underground to resist him then sure, count me in. But fighting his Wehrmacht is suicide if you aren't in a military force.
Hitler, like most tyrants, started small. People stood by and watched.

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

I am certain you may have heard that before?
 
The poster gives no context as to when, but I said yes in context of the failed beer hall putsch that Hitler was a leader of.

From that time on, in would have done my best to block Hitler’s rise to power as he tried to overthrow the government. I would have enlisted the aid of Lettow-Vorbeck to enlist the aid of WW1 veterans to oppose Hitler’s brownshirts if it got that far.

Don’t know if I would be successful or not, but i know that anyone who tries to overthrow the nation (like 1/6) illegally doesn’t deserve to lead.
You, pick the time when. You had a lot of years to jump into the fray.

When do you believe the best time to jump in would have been? That's a pretty easy one. You stop it when the evil is noticeable but still small enough to quash.
 
Hitler, like most tyrants, started small. People stood by and watched.

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

I am certain you may have heard that before?
If you are referring to "standing up to Hitler" before he commanded the military then sure, it would have been the right thing to do. But if you are referring to standing up to him by challenging his military, confronting them openly....that is suicide and would not have done anyone any good. Joining the underground or joining he military, sure, but as an individual there is little one could really accomplish by standing up to him once he commanded the military.
 
It's a poll. Did you answer the poll? Are you fearful of giving a reply? Why would that be? These are questions, not conditions.

Why don't you explain to me my fascist beliefs, as you seem to think I'm a fascist and know my beliefs. First, as with "conditions", I believe you should pull out a dictionary first before fashioning an answer. I'm ready to be entertained, especially by a Canadian.

You want me to admit what I stand for? Admit? Like a confession? OK, I will play along.

It is simple. Free speech and limited government for starters. Freedom from government, but not the abolition of it. What you seem to believe is (if you don't mind my laughing) "fascism". The first, free speech, isn't enshrined in Canada, the latter is being destroyed in America.

So, have you voted in the poll?
The poll is flawed in that it doesn't give a context on the "how and when".
And presumably you are ACTUALLY talking about Hitler, not current events.
 
Most people wouldn't. How the unvaccinated were treated by people during the pandemic showed that. People today are no different than the Germans in Nazi Germany back in the 1930s an 40s. Of course people would fight actual Hitler today, because they've been raised to think that way... but they were not raised with the critical thinking to identify similar evils and fight those.

People are sheep who will ultimately do what their politicians tell them to do. I didn't think it would be possible in the 21st century but I was so, so wrong.
 
Ah, victimhood. Like the leftist narrative that black people are victims of white people, to the point where white people must be forced to pay reparations.
Yeah, and let's take back the money we gave the Japanese-Americans as well.
 
Would you have stood up against Hitler and his 3rd Reich?

Funny how so many saying they would stand up to Hitler wilt like pansies when it comes to Putin and Xi
 
The power of fascism is that its incremental. It doesn't happen all at once. It starts out with demonizing the 'other' (Jews, immigrants, LGBTQ, etc.), it ends in genocide and other atrocities. Many German soldiers didn't want to execute Jews. Some who did so reluctantly under orders eventually became used to it, and even enjoyed it. There is a point at which the other is seen as less than human.

As another poster mentioned, it's easier to manipulate people through social media than it was in the 1930s. However, it's also easier to resist that manipulation due to the nearly infinite amount of information we have access to, when used for good.

We have history. The lessons of fascism are available to us. They are spelled out, in point form. These lessons should be taught in schools, rather than censored from children.
You forgot the press & Law Enforcement.
 
We are busy standing up against MAGA.

Standing up to a bunch of idiots in their parents basements while China is running concentration camps and committing genocide.

Thank you for proving my point.
 
Standing up to a bunch of idiots in their parents basements while China is running concentration camps and committing genocide.

Thank you for proving my point.
Really, what are you doing? Serious question.
 
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