Would You Have Rather Had a Strongman?

[Aunt Antifa]

Your post is utterly ****ing stupid, as is par for the course.

WAAAAH WHY DOESNT CANCER GET BETTER REVIEWS??

 

[Fishking]

WAAAAH WHY DOESNT CANCER GET BETTER REVIEWS??

Do you even know the point I was making? What the comment I was responding to said? You obviously don't.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Do you even know the point I was making? What the comment I was responding to said? You obviously don't.

HOW COME EVERYONE IS SO MEAN TO JEFFREY DAHMER

 

[Luce]

Would You Have Rather Had a Strongman?

Some people think, that if we had Trump, Israel and Hamas, wouldn't be firing rockets at each-other. They think Biden is a careen toward world war.

What are your views on the prospects of war and security.

Do you have evidence to support your answer to my question?

Personally, I feel like I know more of what is going on in the world since Biden. I'm getting full reports on my news feed whereas under Trump, all I only heard him saying, "How great a job he is doing!" I think the media wanted us to get what it was like living under a strongman, since we chose him.

So wait. I'm supposed to want a dictator HERE because silly bastards over THERE are blowing each other up?

 

[Nickyjo]

You asked for false reporting, I provided it. There are tons of false stories against Trump which, again, wasn't needed as he made plenty of dumb comments and mistakes on his own. So far as Israel, 20% of the population of Israel is Palestinian that have voting rights, hold public office, ect. Israel gets hundreds of rockets launched into their country every year and other terror attacks every year and everyone wants to ignore the violence until Israel finally responds and then all the sudden there is a violence problem but it's only Israel.

Discrimination is the ability to discern differences, and when Gaza has a literally terrorist organization as their government in Hamas, then yeah...you not that difference. Maybe when Hamas removes the destruction of Israel from their charter, and the Gazans elect a non-terrorist group as their government, then maybe there can be some headway in establishing peace.

Hard to disagree with your analysis of Israel's predicament in dealing with Hamas, but my impression is that the current fighting came about over destruction of Palestinian homes and their replacement by Israelis. Israel's other problem are the actions of militant settlers. And Israel also maintains practices, which I presume from their point of view are security related, but which seem apartheid-like to observers.

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

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Separate and Unequal

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As to false reporting about Trump, I repeat that the media generally corrects the record if and when they get it wrong, as they did in the example you gave. They have not need to make stuff up.

 

[CaughtInThe]

"From 1948–1966...​

Between 1949 and 1953, there were 99 complaints made by Israel about the infiltration of armed groups or individuals and 30 complaints of armed Jordanian units crossing into Israeli territory. Several hundred Israeli civilians were killed by infiltrators, and some were raped and mutilated. Israel launched numerous reprisal raids in response. Between 1949 and 1956, 286 Israeli civilians were killed. During the same period, excluding the Suez War, 258 Israeli soldiers were killed. Between 2,700 and 5,000 Arab infiltrators were killed. It is unclear whether these Arabs were really infiltrators or were simply unauthorized crossers, as many Palestinians were crossing into Israel for economic reasons. The Israeli forces necessarily treated anyone attempting unauthorized entry as a potential infiltrator, given the level of bloodshed."

 

[Fishking]

Hard to disagree with your analysis of Israel's predicament in dealing with Hamas, but my impression is that the current fighting came about over destruction of Palestinian homes and their replacement by Israelis. Israel's other problem are the actions of militant settlers. And Israel also maintains practices, which I presume from their point of view are security related, but which seem apartheid-like to observers.

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

Separate and Unequal

This report shows that Israel operates a two-tier system for the two populations of the West Bank in the large areas where it exercises exclusive control. The report is based on case studies comparing Israel’s starkly different treatment of settlements and next-door Palestinian communities in...

www.hrw.org

As to false reporting about Trump, I repeat that the media generally corrects the record if and when they get it wrong, as they did in the example you gave. They have not need to make stuff up.

Actually, the current escalation started when a court ruled that 4 families (iirc) where to be evicted for non-payment of rent.

So far as apartheid, I'm not sure we're allowed to talk about that in the ME forum under one of the rules. I'll just say that it isn't. There is Palestine and there is Israel. Two separate nations/territories (I don't know what Palestine actually is considered legally). If you conflate those two different territories then you can make that claim but, as I've pointed out, it's not accurate.

However, as stated previously, 20% of the Israeli population is Palestinian and they have all the rights of every other Israeli citizen. They can vote, own land, hold positions in government. Right now there are 14 Palestinians sitting as members in the Knesset, which is their congress.

List of Arab members of the Knesset - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Fishking]

HOW COME EVERYONE IS SO MEAN TO JEFFREY DAHMER

All you're doing is demonstrating your ignorance about the point being made (Hint: It has nothing to do with the media being "mean" to Trump"). I wonder if you can actually figure it out. I predict two outcomes:
1. You won't figure it out.
2. You'll ignore the point and continue to deflect because you'll never admit your posts are full of shit.

 

[Nickyjo]

Actually, the current escalation started when a court ruled that 4 families (iirc) where to be evicted for non-payment of rent.

So far as apartheid, I'm not sure we're allowed to talk about that in the ME forum under one of the rules. I'll just say that it isn't. There is Palestine and there is Israel. Two separate nations/territories (I don't know what Palestine actually is considered legally). If you conflate those two different territories then you can make that claim but, as I've pointed out, it's not accurate.

However, as stated previously, 20% of the Israeli population is Palestinian and they have all the rights of every other Israeli citizen. They can vote, own land, hold positions in government. Right now there are 14 Palestinians sitting as members in the Knesset, which is their congress.

List of Arab members of the Knesset - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

“They have all the rights of every other Israeli citizen” might be news to Palestinians. Did you read the links?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

All you're doing is demonstrating your ignorance about the point being made (Hint: It has nothing to do with the media being "mean" to Trump"). I wonder if you can actually figure it out. I predict two outcomes:
1. You won't figure it out.
2. You'll ignore the point and continue to deflect because you'll never admit your posts are full of shit.

HOW COME POISEN GETS SUCH A BAD RAP?

 

[Fishking]

HOW COME POISEN GETS SUCH A BAD RAP?

Option #2. How predictable. Click this box [ ] to demonstrate you're not a robot.

 

[noonereal]

What are your views on the prospects of war and security.

We are far safer than if teh mad man was still in power.
Not sure anyone can argue this.

Problem is, Trump made us so vulnerable.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The current conflict in Israel would have occurred regardless of who is occupying the White House simply because what led to it was a specific incident that as usual lit the powder keg of grievances Palestinians have been talking about. While the US maintains the same position it has always had toward Israel, I don't see this changing at all. I don't see what Trump would have done differently than any president before him. I can't imagine any direct intervention either because he did not want to get the US involved.

The current administration is falling in line with typical US responses as well, which is why this will never change under that paradigm.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Option #2. How predictable. Click this box [ ] to demonstrate you're not a robot.

IT’S NOT FAIR THAT PUSS IS MADE TO FEEL BAD ABOUT ITSELF

 

[Fishking]

IT’S NOT FAIR THAT PUSS IS MADE TO FEEL BAD ABOUT ITSELF

Stuck on Option #2. Your algorithm is broken.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Stuck on Option #2. Your algorithm is broken.

I will never stop laughing at how dumb your comment was. Never.

 

[Fishking]

I will never stop laughing at how dumb your comment was. Never.

You still don't even understand the point, which is the true hilarious part of this. The lack of self-awareness is truly astounding. I'm surprised you can type words.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

You still don't even understand the point, which is the true hilarious part of this. The lack of self-awareness is truly astounding. I'm surprised you can type words.

HOW COME VOMIT ISN’T TREATED LIKE FILET? IT’S CRIMINAL!

 

[Fishking]

HOW COME VOMIT ISN’T TREATED LIKE FILET? IT’S CRIMINAL!

Option #2 again. You're so creative.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Option #2 again. You're so creative.

Will never stop laughing at it. Holy god so funny. STAB WOUNDS - WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE?

 

[Fishking]

Will never stop laughing at it. Holy god so funny. STAB WOUNDS - WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE?

From where I'm sitting...I have infinite more standing to judge you. You know...because I don't operating off of a pre-programmed algorithm.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

From where I'm sitting...I have infinite more standing to judge you. You know...because I don't operating off of a pre-programmed algorithm.

Uh oh - there’s a glitch in the Matrix!

Go to bed. Feel better in the morning.

 

[Fishking]

Uh oh - there’s a glitch in the Matrix!

Go to bed. Feel better in the morning.

*yawn*...your posts aren't even entertaining in their stupidity. Just ****ing worthless.

 

[Exquisitor]

So wait. I'm supposed to want a dictator HERE because silly bastards over THERE are blowing each other up?

That's what they're saying.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Would You Have Rather Had a Strongman?

Some people think, that if we had Trump, Israel and Hamas, wouldn't be firing rockets at each-other. They think Biden is a careen toward world war.

What are your views on the prospects of war and security.

Do you have evidence to support your answer to my question?

Personally, I feel like I know more of what is going on in the world since Biden. I'm getting full reports on my news feed whereas under Trump, all I only heard him saying, "How great a job he is doing!" I think the media wanted us to get what it was like living under a strongman, since we chose him.

Trump wasn’t a strong man. He was the last attempt to resolve the question politically. He was the 1934 Spanish parliamentary elections. Next stop when the left goes too far will be a strong man.