Would the US allow Russia to have a US-antagonistic nuclear-armed defense alliance surrounding the US?

[Antiwar]

Lol

It's okay that the US threatens all of Earth, as long as it doesn't threaten its neighbors. But its neighbors are also part of 'all of Earth,' so the US is threatening its neighbors.

 

[noonereal]

Yeah, it is a laughable question. Because such things aren’t happening.

Really? Since 1945 , not a once?

 

[Questerr]

It's okay that the US threatens all of Earth, as long as it doesn't threaten its neighbors. But its neighbors are also part of 'all of Earth,' so the US is threatening its neighbors.

Should the US unilaterally abolish its nuclear weapons or is it okay for the US to keep them if other countries have them?

 

[Questerr]

Really? Since 1945 , not a once?

Ah, so we’re time traveling back 80 years instead of talking about today.

 

[Lisa]

The unsupported claim is:

They already do. The SCO is less than 60 miles from the US.

Are you somehow suggesting that the world would be safer if NATO didn't exist. Or are you just being a Russian apologist?

 

[Antiwar]

Should the SCO claim be supported or will he keep asking irrelevant questions?

 

[Antiwar]

Are you somehow suggesting that the world would be safer if NATO didn't exist. Or are you just being a Russian apologist?

Of course the world would be safer if NATO didn't exist. That's about as obvious of a scientific fact that there is.

 

[Questerr]

Should the SCO claim be supported or will he keep asking irrelevant questions?

I supported it. Is the problem that you know nothing about the SCO (for instance what countries make it up) because you are wildly ignorant about international affairs outside of your belief that “America BAD!”?

 

[Questerr]

Of course the world would be safer if NATO didn't exist. That's about as obvious of a scientific fact that there is.

So you believe the countries in Eastern Europe should have no powerful allies to protect them from Russian aggression?

Or do you think some “effective international justice system” would just magically poof into existence to protect them?

 

[Antiwar]

The SCO claim is supported by bull.

 

[Questerr]

The SCO claim is supported by bull.

So you are denying that the SCO has member territory less than 60 miles from the US and that it has multiple nuclear armed members?

 

[noonereal]

Ah, so we’re time traveling back 80 years instead of talking about today.

This is recent history. No time travel needed.

 

[Questerr]

This is recent history. No time travel needed.

No it isn’t. It’s nearly a century ago.

 

[Questerr]

@Antiwar does everything in his power to demonize the US and NATO as evil, making the claim that the only countries they see as threats aren’t when he doesn’t even acknowledge that Sweden sees Russia as a big enough threat that they have abandoned 200 years of neutrality to join NATO.

 

[Antiwar]

Someone should start a thread that informs DP of the SCO being a NATO-like alliance, and that it has surrounded the US.

 

[Questerr]

Someone should start a thread that informs DP of the SCO having a NATO-like alliance surrounding the US.

How exactly does NATO “surround” Russia?

No such thread would be needed because unlike you, most posters aren’t ignorant of the existence of the SCO.

 

[Questerr]

@Antiwar

Why do you keep lying about NATO “surrounding” Russia?

Is it for the same reason you lied about the US “invading 93 countries since 2018”?

 

[Antiwar]

The SCO is such a threat that the UN has it filed under "Political and Peacebuilding Affairs." Someone should inform the UN that they're being Shanghaied.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization | Department of Political and Peacebuilding Affairs

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) is a strategic partner of the United Nations on issues relating to political affairs and peace and security. The SCO has been an observer in the UN General Assembly since 2005 and starting from 2009, the General Assembly has included an item on...

dppa.un.org

 

[Lisa]

Of course the world would be safer if NATO didn't exist. That's about as obvious of a scientific fact that there is.

And Russia able to threaten countries that couldn't defend themselves without mutual cooperation of others?

 

[Nomad4Ever]

Would the US allow Russia to have a US-antagonistic nuclear-armed defense alliance surrounding the US?

I mean Cuba is about to allow China to build a spy base right off our shore. This is happening is real life and isn't a hypothetical.

Zero chance we are invading Cuba again because we aren't insane morons like Russia. So I would say yes, we would.

 

[NotreDame]

Would the US allow Russia to have a US-antagonistic nuclear-armed defense alliance surrounding the US?

As a organic development under a set of circumstances where the anatgonism was mutual and both sides utilized an alliance, to only subsequently have circumstances change, the antagonism abated or was eclipsed by mutual cooperation, but Russia maintained its alliance anyway and the U.S. did not and the U.S. then attempted to gobble up land by annexing a segment of a sovereign nation and then subsequently invaded the same sovereign nation thereby rekindling the antagonism, then yes.

 

[Antiwar]

I mean Cuba is about to allow China to build a spy base right off our shore. This is happening is real life and isn't a hypothetical.

Zero chance we are invading Cuba again because we aren't insane morons like Russia. So I would say yes, we would.

How is a spy base a nuclear-armed defense alliance?

 

[NotreDame]

Not a chance.

If Mexico tried to ally with Russia or China the first American units would be over the border within twenty four hours.

Maybe…but the circumstances for this alliance between Mexico and Russia above may not parallel the circumstances resulting in the creation of NATO, the change of circumstances after the Cold War, and Russia’s rekindling of the antagonism by annexing a segment of a sovereign nation and later invading the same sovereign nation.

 

[NotreDame]

It's okay that the US threatens all of Earth, as long as it doesn't threaten its neighbors. But its neighbors are also part of 'all of Earth,' so the US is threatening its neighbors.

It's okay that the US threatens all of Earth

Hyperbole much?

 

[Antiwar]

Hyperbole much?

It's all factual. None of that is hyperbole.