No.Assume a national abortion bad if Trump et.al. are elected. Included in ban would be mifepristone and contraceptives. Woman gets pregnant and doesn't want the baby. She deliberately eats a poor dangerous diet that causes a miscarriage. Will she be charged with murder?
They could do this if they choose. They could also beat their belly with a baseball bat and pummel the fetus to prompt a miscarriage.Can it be proved? Is this something pregnant woman will resort to to get rid of a child they don't want?
Women have been using natural abortifascients since the dawn of time.Assume a national abortion bad if Trump et.al. are elected. Included in ban would be mifepristone and contraceptives. Woman gets pregnant and doesn't want the baby. She deliberately eats a poor dangerous diet that causes a miscarriage. Will she be charged with murder? Can it be proved? Is this something pregnant woman will resort to to get rid of a child they don't want?
Some have been charged with crimes due to behaviors that could be risky and it was only relatively recently that laws have started to change to make it more and more likely for this to happen.No.
Many women engage in activities harmful to their unborn child. None of them are prosecuted for murder, even when their behavior caused miscarriage.
They could do this if they choose. They could also beat their belly with a baseball bat and pummel the fetus to prompt a miscarriage.
A much better way to get rid of an unwanted fetus is to go to a state which allows abortion.
No.
Many women engage in activities harmful to their unborn child. None of them are prosecuted for murder, even when their behavior caused miscarriage.
They could do this if they choose. They could also beat their belly with a baseball bat and pummel the fetus to prompt a miscarriage.
A much better way to get rid of an unwanted fetus is to go to a state which allows abortion.
Women have been using natural abortifascients since the dawn of time.
Good luck stopping them.
But you missed the part about a national abortion ban if Trump is elected. Which there isn't a chance in hell he will defer doing if he's in office, forget that horsesh*t he spews about believing it should be left up to the states. "You know, my fellow Americans, I've had a change of heart about that promise I made before I was elected that I would not institute a national abortion ban. I now believe it's good for America to have one. Sorry about that."No.
Many women engage in activities harmful to their unborn child. None of them are prosecuted for murder, even when their behavior caused miscarriage.
They could do this if they choose. They could also beat their belly with a baseball bat and pummel the fetus to prompt a miscarriage.
A much better way to get rid of an unwanted fetus is to go to a state which allows abortion.
They resorted to back alley abortions before Roe. Assuming there is a ban, we'll likely see more back alley abortions or child abandonment/neglect. And probably a rise in maternal or fetal/infant mortality and morbidity. Those supporting strict restrictions or bans against abortion are in effect, inadvertently perhaps, promoting those potential issues. They either do not se outside their anti abortion box or they do not care.Assume a national abortion bad if Trump et.al. are elected. Included in ban would be mifepristone and contraceptives. Woman gets pregnant and doesn't want the baby. She deliberately eats a poor dangerous diet that causes a miscarriage. Will she be charged with murder? Can it be proved? Is this something pregnant woman will resort to to get rid of a child they don't want?
Until antiabortionist elements demand a ban on wire hangers, like those who want birth control or abortifacients banned.Look for giant demand on wire hangers when the abortion ban goes national.
That's absurd. There is not going to be any national abortion ban.
Trump actually has a fairly moderate stance on abortion. Lunatics on the left ignore that fact, and naturally their running around the barnyard clucking about how the sky is falling seems ridiculous to sensible people.
No president has the power to ban abortion. Congress could pass legislation to do that, and the president could sign it, but the courts would be compelled to overturn any federal ban on abortion.But you missed the part about a national abortion ban if Trump is elected.
Trump should know that he cannot ban abortion.Which there isn't a chance in hell he will defer doing if he's in office, forget that horsesh*t he spews about believing it should be left up to the states. "You know, my fellow Americans, I've had a change of heart about that promise I made before I was elected that I would not institute a national abortion ban. I now believe it's good for America to have one. Sorry about that."
I would hope the courts would overturn any bans. But given the current SCOTUS, I'm not entirely confident they would.Congress could pass legislation to do that, but the courts would be compelled to overturn any federal ban on abortion.
No president has the power to ban abortion. Congress could pass legislation to do that, and the president could sign it, but the courts would be compelled to overturn any federal ban on abortion.
Trump should know that he cannot ban abortion.
U.S. Constitution, Amendment X which states that the federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden to the states by the Constitution are reserved to each state, or to the People.Interesting. On what basis?
Sure. Bottom line is that there is not going to be any national abortion ban - regardless of who is president, and who sits on the Supreme Court.He's not running on that. That would be stupid, right?
U.S. Constitution, Amendment X which states that the federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden to the states by the Constitution are reserved to each state, or to the People.
If Congress passed a national abortion ban, then they would be overstepping the states' right to legislate.
Sure. Bottom line is that there is not going to be any national abortion ban - regardless of who is president, and who sits on the Supreme Court.
I made the effort and gave the correct answers to your questions. The answers are correct, and true.We have federal laws banning hunting marine mammals. Federal laws governing pollution. Federal law defining marriage. Sorry, you'll have to do better.
"Na huh" isnt debate.
I made the effort and gave the correct answers to your questions. The answers are correct, and true.
If you don't like them, then ignore them. Pretend that they are not true.
Technically, that's true. But given a MAGA Congress' penchant for kissing Trump's ass every time he walks by, they'd jump in a heartbeat to pass anything he told them to pass.No president has the power to ban abortion. Congress could pass legislation to do that, and the president could sign it, but the courts would be compelled to overturn any federal ban on abortion.
Trump should know that he cannot ban abortion.
Never say never.U.S. Constitution, Amendment X which states that the federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden to the states by the Constitution are reserved to each state, or to the People.
If Congress passed a national abortion ban, then they would be overstepping the states' right to legislate.
Sure. Bottom line is that there is not going to be any national abortion ban - regardless of who is president, and who sits on the Supreme Court.
You're ignoring the Federal ban on personal Marijuana use. There is STILL a federal ban on personal marijuana use, however many states allow it - in defiance of the Federal statute.I refuted it so I dont know why you just posted such a falsehood. "Na huh"is not debate.
I dont have to ignore anything. I'm here to debate and that's what I did. If you cant respond, dont. That's obvious.
You're ignoring the Federal ban on Marijuana. There is STILL a federal ban on personal marijuana use, however many states allow it - in defiance of the Federal statute.
Abortion would be the same. Even if the Federal government banned abortion, some states would invoke their 10th Amendment right to pass legislation to supersede the ban.
That never happened. You made it up. The Federal government did not choose to impose the ban. Trump said they would, but they CANNOT, and I've explained why they cannot.States didnt invoke the 10th, they just did it. And the govt CHOSE to allow it. That 'ban' is very old and likely to end soon, as it's useless and society recognizes that.
Here, the federal govt would choose to impose the ban...so then why would they allow states to do their own thing?
That's a facile, empty response. In this example, the govt is ACTING for social change. In the pot example, they're reacting to social change.
That never happened. You made it up. The Federal government did not choose to impose the ban. Trump said they would, but they CANNOT, and I've explained why they cannot.
But even if they DID, the states could pass legislation to supersede the Federal statute. The voters could do it. We did it in California, and Colorado did it before we did.
Apologies to the OP - - somehow we really got deep in the weeds.
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