Would 2/3 of Senate Vote To Impeach Trump This Time?

[Slartibartfast]

If they don’t like people storming the capitol building I’m pretty sure removing Trump is not the best way to keep the building unstormed.

this is a good example of how leftists in the bubble are totally unconnected from reality. Polls show Around 50% of Americans think the election was stolen, I don’t think many people hold the US government or the institutions of the Cathedral in high regard anymore, and talking to friends and coworkers even the ones who didn’t vote for Trump think the picture of the Viking horn guy in Pelosi’s chair is hilarious. The Cathedral is acting with all the outrage “the world is laughing at us” “democracy is in danger” “our democracy” (just as a side note, it’s clearly obvious that when the elite says “our democracy” emphasize the OUR in that sentence) as if anyone actually cares. It’s kind of funny to see the performative outrage.

they’re acting like Caucescu when he heard booing for the first time.

If they storm it again, then law enforcement should respond (and the response will be much faster once Biden is in office and people like simpleton who are likely complicit are out), disable the threat, and society will keep going without the traitors as they languish in jail.

Living under a threat of the right wing mob is not something is going to win the GOP's heart with most Americans.

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

I strongly doubt it. Trump still has too many supporters that congressional republicans are afraid to piss off lest they get primaried.

You are not paying attention. More and more Trump loyalists have changed their minds. Whereby employing Amendment 25 to remove him is highly unlikely to get the job done, only 20 out of 53 GOP senators breaking ranks with this slime ball is needed to get the job done.

América needs to purge itself once and for all from this tyrant. As to the radical right winged Trumpers, **** your feelings.

 

[lwf]

Yes. I said it at the time, the Dems delivered the Republicans an incredible off-ramp (with a bow around it) that they should have used to exorcise themselves of Trump. Had they done so, they likely would have saved the Senate and White House. I bet that will be on McConnell's list of regrets.

Probably not, though it will be much, much easier to attain that than earlier this year. The political winds have radically changed. Right now Trump is toxic. Its a great way to distance yourself from him. They only would need 16-19 Republicans, depending on how fast Georgia certifies.

Moreover, it doesn't really matter. The process will generally tie Trump's hands and, to me, the most important aspect is the historical record this creates. A twice Impeached, one term president will be easily branded as America's worst president for a hundred years. Schoolchildren will be taught of the sins of this generation; future presidents will have a record of what not to do and its consequences if you do.

I agree. By electing and backing Donald Trump, Republicans won the battle at the cost of the war. Virtually any other Republican in the White House would have been more likely to win the 2020 election, or at least would have been able to shore up Republican control of the Senate and possibly take the House. Ruthless as it sounds, COVID-19 was an opportunity for Republicans to rise to the occasion and seize the "no changes during a crisis" effect that so many previous presidents were able to do to ensure a second term and expand party control. Republicans chose to line up behind the one candidate that was incapable of that.

 

[Callen]

I think it's possible that 10 Senators join the Dems if for no other reason than to stop him from running for office again. I don' t think they have the same loyalty to him they once had. What they experienced shook many of them to their core.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

If they storm it again, then law enforcement should respond (and the response will be much faster once Biden is in office and people like simpleton who are likely complicit are out), disable the threat, and society will keep going without the traitors as they languish in jail.

Living under a threat of the right wing mob is not something is going to win the GOP's heart with most Americans.

I don’t think it will institutionally hurt the Republicans any more than black lives matter terrorism hurt the Democrats.

 

[lwf]

It never fails. Leftists always use the term “our democracy” meaning you see it as solely a means for your power. You’re not a principled defender of democracy. Cut the sanctimony

When an American says "our democracy" you assume they're not talking about you?

 

[Slartibartfast]

I don’t think it will institutionally hurt the Republicans any more than black lives matter terrorism hurt the Democrats.

Your post will not age well.

 

[lwf]

I don’t think it will institutionally hurt the Republicans any more than black lives matter terrorism hurt the Democrats.

BLM did not divide the Democratic party. The Insurrection seems to be dividing the Republican party, and the Republican party can afford less division than the Democratic party can.

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

It never fails. Leftists always use the term “our democracy” meaning you see it as solely a means for your power. You’re not a principled defender of democracy. Cut the sanctimony

Yes indeed it is our democracy. If you don's like a system where the people vote for who governs us, then move to Iran or some other dictatorship led country. 50% of Americans think this election was stolen? Lunacy spewing out from the radical right. Take a bow sir.

 

[element94]

Not at all far fetched. People like Graham and McConnel have had their come to Jesus moment regarding the idiot in the White House. Only 20 out of 53 GOPers would have to vote yes to flush the swirling turd.

The Georgia phone call in demonstrating a treasonous attempt to steal an election coupled with the Trump insurrection of the Capitol Building is perfect justification to get rid of this guy NOW.

Amendment 25 will not fly because Pence is a coward.

Rational thinking people, whether they be Dems or GOPers know Trump has to be removed right away. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyy too dangerous to have our country run by a con man for even one more day.

The questions the American people need to be screaming at the leaders is: "How much more do you need!? A few assassinations!?"

 

[Luce]

It never fails. Leftists always use the term “our democracy” meaning you see it as solely a means for your power. You’re not a principled defender of democracy. Cut the sanctimony

You're not a proponent of democracy at all. You've said so.

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

Can you share a link to a poll that shows 50%? Because all of the ones I've seen show far fewer Americans believe the election was stolen. Here's one from Fox News I found:

Fox News Poll: Most Republicans say President Trump was robbed

Sixty-eight percent of Republicans believe the election was stolen from President Trump, according to the latest Fox News national survey of registered voters.

www.foxnews.com

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Few Americans outside of Trump voters seem to feel the election was stolen.

Yes indeed the bs thrown out there that 50% of people saying this election was stolen is utter nonsense and just shows you how powerful liars like Hannity and Limbaugh, not to mention the president are. During the Nuremburg trials, Goebbels said it best. The more and more you preach the propaganda, the more people will believe. The Fox Poll you cited with 36% believe this election was stolen is not only mind boggling given all the complaints thrown out of court. it is also truly a sad commentary on the power the radical right wing has on the people of this country.

Trump had an approval rating of 41% on November 3rd. That in and of itself was a true premonition that he would get blown out in the election. And that's exactly what happened. The pre polls had him losing by 7 million votes. The actual count showed he lost by by 7 million votes. These results should have surprised nobody. If 59% of the people can't stand you, you are not going to be elected. That's how it works.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

You're not a proponent of democracy at all. You've said so.

Correct. What’s your point?

 

[mrjurrs]

Wow. The Marxists have really distributed their talking points. I mean, this is straight out of the USSR "If you don't agree with us, you must be insane", and thus, removed".

You think removal would be for not agreeing? Come on, at least try to be truthful.

 

[Luce]

Correct. What’s your point?

My point is that you don't get to judge who is a "principle defender of democracy."

You aren't qualified.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

My point is that you don't get to judge who is a "principle defender of democracy."

You aren't qualified.

That is not true. You do not have to believe in an ideology to logically determine whether or not someone believes in it.

 

[Luce]

That is not true. You do not have to believe in an ideology to logically determine whether or not someone believes in it.

You're not qualified. End of story.

 

[element94]

Yes indeed the bs thrown out there that 50% of people saying this election was stolen is utter nonsense and just shows you how powerful liars like Hannity and Limbaugh, not to mention the president are. During the Nuremburg trials, Goebbels said it best. The more and more you preach the propaganda, the more people will believe. The Fox Poll you cited with 36% believe this election was stolen is not only mind boggling given all the complaints thrown out of court. it is also truly a sad commentary on the power the radical right wing has on the people of this country.

Trump had an approval rating of 41% on November 3rd. That in and of itself was a true premonition that he would get blown out in the election. And that's exactly what happened. The pre polls had him losing by 7 million votes. The actual count showed he lost by by 7 million votes. These results should have surprised nobody. If 59% of the people can't stand you, you are not going to be elected. That's how it works.

And there's no more gullible bunch in the world than the stunted woods people of the United States.

 

[Kreton]

That kind of talk from the regressive Justice Democrats will cost DEMs the House in 2022.

DEMs barely hold the House and face daunting disadvantages with redistricting and reapportionment.

DEMs will no doubt piss away what Trump did yesterday by overreaching, as they did with the Ukraine Impeachment.

It’s obvious that the vast majority of DEMs are too stupid to understand why they need to get Repubs on record for CENSURE.

Just like it cost them the house this year with the Republican base motivated at levels never before seen?
Just like it cost them the senate?
Just like it cost them the WH?

The right were out in full force and lost all 3.

 

[Visbek]

Trump needs to be impeached and convicted.

I seriously doubt the votes are there in the Senate. It should happen, but it won't. Republicans are still cowards, who are more afraid of getting primaried by Trump voters than they are of getting lynched by Trump voters.

 

[Visbek]

I don’t think it will institutionally hurt the Republicans any more than black lives matter terrorism hurt the Democrats.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris didn't give speeches ordering BLM protesters to overthrow the government.

I mean, really. If Biden lost the election, then spent months filing frivolous lawsuits based on no evidence, and calling Trump's win illegitimate and riddled with fraud, then held a rally where he told people that it is only the strong who succeed and that the crowd should "walk down to the Capitol" and "show strength," and the protesters invaded the Capitol and stopped the certification? You'd be out of your mind with rage. Don't even front.

I.e. spare us the false equivalences.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris didn't give speeches ordering BLM protesters to overthrow the government.

I mean, really. If Biden lost the election, then spent months filing frivolous lawsuits based on no evidence, and calling Trump's win illegitimate and riddled with fraud, then held a rally where he told people that it is only the strong who succeed and that the crowd should "walk down to the Capitol" and "show strength," and the protesters invaded the Capitol and stopped the certification? You'd be out of your mind with rage. Don't even front.

I.e. spare us the false equivalences.

Yes I would, but not because of fake appeals to “democracy”

 

[What if...?]

Not at all far fetched. People like Graham and McConnel have had their come to Jesus moment regarding the idiot in the White House. Only 20 out of 53 GOPers would have to vote yes to flush the swirling turd.

The Georgia phone call in demonstrating a treasonous attempt to steal an election coupled with the Trump insurrection of the Capitol Building is perfect justification to get rid of this guy NOW.

Amendment 25 will not fly because Pence is a coward.

Rational thinking people, whether they be Dems or GOPers know Trump has to be removed right away. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyy too dangerous to have our country run by a con man for even one more day.

I'm for it because it will strip him of his pension, healthcare and most importantly his secret service detail. No more status shows at taxpayer expense for whatever is left of his life.

He's rich. He can afford his own security.

 

[What if...?]

You don't get it and from reading your crap here on a daily basis and you never will. First off, nowhere near 50% believe this election was stolen NOWHERE NEAR. You people need to understand that that type of daily bullshit promoted by this president and the radical right wingers like Hannuty and Limbaugh led to the American tragedy that happened Wednesday. Shame on all of you for trying to overthrow our democracy.

Here in this country, we are NOT governed by Third Reichs. If you love kings and monarchies ruling your country, I would offer to traitors like you to pack your bags and move to places like Iran. The sooner this country is purged of people like you the better.

As for my thread here, all the naysayers need to take notice that just as I surmised, more and more Republican Senators are now on board to impeach his ass. Only 20 out of 53 GOP Senators need to vote for democracy over party. Whereby the narrative of "can't piss off the Trump base for future political considerations" was chic one short week ago, many Republicans are now facing the music. They are concluding that this bastard has destroyed our once proud Republic. It looks to me that Trump will be shown the door next week. Good riddance.

That little stunt gave mainstream republicans cover to disavow the trumpie faction at the least it will ever cost them.

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[What if...?]

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris didn't give speeches ordering BLM protesters to overthrow the government.

I mean, really. If Biden lost the election, then spent months filing frivolous lawsuits based on no evidence, and calling Trump's win illegitimate and riddled with fraud, then held a rally where he told people that it is only the strong who succeed and that the crowd should "walk down to the Capitol" and "show strength," and the protesters invaded the Capitol and stopped the certification? You'd be out of your mind with rage. Don't even front.

I.e. spare us the false equivalences.

Absolutely.

No.

Shame.