Will you ever forgive the republicans?

[eohrnberger]

Ya’ll literally invented a term to call folks within your own party who didn’t walk in lockstep: NeverTrumpers.

This has nothing to do with what I posted, and is little more than 'whataboutism'. How about you try to address the points that were raised?

 

[Individual]

Most EU countries participation in NATO predated the EU. There are now 21 members of both. Four more EU members are trying to join NATO. Their EU membership appears to have done nothing to smooth that process.

As for border changes if you don't think there is a difference between a land border between separate nations and a land border between states of a Republic that comprises a Nation, you are sadly mistaken.

Yes, those who were members previously remained so after joining the EU.
And yes there would be details needed to be worked out.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

This has nothing to do with what I posted, and is little more than 'whataboutism'. How about you try to address the points that were raised?

I did! I literally responded to one of the bullet points. How can you offer in good faith that there is an issue with dems about tribalism when right now your party is being cleaved in pieces over an up down referendum on loyalty to one figure?

What other points in that list of talking points would you like me to deconstruct for the non-serious bullshit it is? The part where you complain about media censorship because no one wanted to take Rudy seriously? It’s not censorship if every crackpot you guys wheel out doesn’t get national air time on networks you insist you don’t watch anyway.

What else?

 

[noonereal]

No

The deplorables are a great danger to America

They can never be forgiven or forgotten

They must be constantly monitored and their plots thwarted at every turn.

Yes, I believe this is the prudent approach.

As the dastardly that they are, they must be surveilled and controlled.

 

[Individual]

I'm good there. It's the white right wing that fears becoming the minority.

Each State could become majority ruled, eliminating the constant bickering between Left and Right, giving the people greater freedom to vote with their feet.

 

[noonereal]

its really a question of how to mitigate it

A good kick in the ass is likely the best course to follow.

 

[noonereal]

I will not forgive them

Good. Neither will I.
Already I have changed my behaviors towards teh ones I know. I think we all should.

 

[it's just me]

WAYYYYYYYYYY too soon to talk about forgiveness. They are arrogant ****s that have no shred of self analysis. We are the devil, and they will slaughter us if given the chance.

There is ZERO forgiveness for the self
righteous. They must be stomped.

The zero self awareness glee club ^

 

[noonereal]

I voted for every democrat for every partisan office in the most recent election.

So did I, for the first time in my life as I am a life long republican.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Will you ever forgive the republicans for what they are doing?

As if Trumpism is not bad enough, now thwy are trying to install Trump against the will of the people, both the popular vote and the electoral vote.

In so doing they have "poisoned" million of dumb Americans who no longer trust our institutions, the same ones that are traditionally respected across the globe.

The harm will last generations.

Will you ever consider voting for any republican at at any level again?

Yes and I'll forgive the poor disadvantaged and ignored trumplicans, if America is to succeed we AmeriCANs must become U.S. AGAIN!

 

[element94]

Each State could become majority ruled, eliminating the constant bickering between Left and Right, giving the people greater freedom to vote with their feet.

There's nothing wrong with continuing to follow the laws and the Constitution. It's the traitorism that is the problem, and as I said the solution for that is laid out in the Constitution. Attempting to overturn an election because you didn't like the outcome is subversion of the will of the people, and levying war against them, which is treason.

 

[Threegoofs]

You really think that this is what is going on? When in a number of states the election laws were already illegally altered by state officials who didn't have the power or authority to do so?

Weird that literally NO judges have determined this to be true when facts are presented in court.

NONE.

 

[Individual]

There's nothing wrong with continuing to follow the laws and the Constitution. It's the traitorism that is the problem, and as I said the solution for that is laid out in the Constitution. Attempting to overturn an election because you didn't like the outcome is subversion of the will of the people, and levying war against them, which is treason.

I wouldn't call them traitors if they truly believe their claims, and like those who claim to be religious, I simply accept as fact that they believe their God exists.

 

[jnug]

I wouldn't call them traitors if they truly believe their claims, and like those who claim to be religious, I simply accept as fact that they believe their God exists.

Politics and faith don't mix. But if that is your position, that is your position.

 

[Individual]

Politics and faith don't mix. But if that is your position, that is your position.

Simply beliefs, nothing more.

 

[jnug]

Simply beliefs, nothing more.

That is fine. But beliefs don't even rise to the level of opinion in a political debate.

 

[eohrnberger]

I did! I literally responded to one of the bullet points. How can you offer in good faith that there is an issue with dems about tribalism when right now your party is being cleaved in pieces over an up down referendum on loyalty to one figure?

I think that a bad misread of the present GOP situation. Democrats have been practicing identity politics, the politics of tribalism and division for nearly a decade, and the current tribalism in the political sphere can largely be traced back to this, so, yes, burning the nation down.

What other points in that list of talking points would you like me to deconstruct for the non-serious bullshit it is?

It's not surprising that you don't want to address any of the cited points, and would rather just call it 'non-serious bullshit'.

The part where you complain about media censorship because no one wanted to take Rudy seriously? It’s not censorship if every crackpot you guys wheel out doesn’t get national air time on networks you insist you don’t watch anyway.
What else?

So anyone who doesn't toe the leftist ideological line is immediately labeled a 'crackpot', rather than on a case by case basis.
Yeah, that's so typical of the left so as not to even be funny.

 

[eohrnberger]

Weird that literally NO judges have determined this to be true when facts are presented in court.

NONE.

PA SoS declared a change to the election procedures which the state legislature are solely authorized to make in direct violation of the Constitution.

You 'NONE' just got blowed up.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Funny stuff in this silly thread. We have screwy people who won't "forgive" other's who
vote differently than they do.
And then come the rants...... Seems to be some truly ill people full of nastiness.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Good. Neither will I.
Already I have changed my behaviors towards teh ones I know. I think we all should.

There is more context to my comment than what you quoted.

 

[Threegoofs]

PA SoS declared a change to the election procedures which the state legislature are solely authorized to make in direct violation of the Constitution.

You 'NONE' just got blowed up.

Judges. In courts of law.

Not wingnuts that pretend they know law.

 

[Individual]

That is fine. But beliefs don't even rise to the level of opinion in a political debate.

What they believe probably happens to be their opinion also, and I don't know that it's even possible to verify the accuracy of the election. IMO, we'll never really know the truth about this election.
In any event my life will continue as always regardless of what happens, taking corrective actions when and where ever needed.
I've never allowed myself to become enslaved by or dependent on government.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I think that a bad misread of the present GOP situation. Democrats have been practicing identity politics, the politics of tribalism and division for nearly a decade, and the current tribalism in the political sphere can largely be traced back to this, so, yes, burning the nation down.

It's not surprising that you don't want to address any of the cited points, and would rather just call it 'non-serious bullshit'.

So anyone who doesn't toe the leftist ideological line is immediately labeled a 'crackpot', rather than on a case by case basis.
Yeah, that's so typical of the left so as not to even be funny.

No, crackpots who say crackpot things are labeled crackpots.

 

[Greenbeard]

Will you ever forgive the republicans for what they are doing?

As if Trumpism is not bad enough, now thwy are trying to install Trump against the will of the people, both the popular vote and the electoral vote.

In so doing they have "poisoned" million of dumb Americans who no longer trust our institutions, the same ones that are traditionally respected across the globe.

The harm will last generations.

Will you ever consider voting for any republican at at any level again?

Before Trumpism it was the Bush years (apparently memory holed among rightwingers--only a few months ago a GOP operative cautioned that "Trump could be our party's Iraq War" (!)). Before the Bush years it was Gingrichery.

The GOP has never once asked for forgiveness for what it's been inflicting on the nation for the past thirty years. So why be inclined to ever give it?

 

[eohrnberger]

Claims of illegality have been shot down by Courts that determined that there was no evidence supporting claims of state legislative malfeasance or election malfeasance. The only success was a filing asking that "observers" be allowed to stand closer to counters in Pennsylvania. Trump supporters are 1-59 in the courts.

As for "a meeting". A meeting is hardly at issue with regard to Trump and Trump sycophant arm twisting of state officials. I guess you have not been keeping up with Trump's twitter feed. Remember, the WH announced back in 2017 that Trump tweets were official statements from the President of the United States. I know that Trumphumpers want the country to accept the idea that all that crap spewing out of Donnie's mouth and off his twitter feed are just Donnie being Donnie. SORRY...does not work that way. Trump and his sycophants should never ever be allowed anywhere near the WH again. Likely should tried for an attempted Coup and Sedition.

Following the process prescribed by the Constitution and existing laws is an 'attempted Coup and Sedition'?

You clearly do not like our Republic. So why don't you find a country you like, pack up and move there. Better, have Donnie buy an island and rename it Trumpslyvania and you can all move there.

You keep claiming that 'arm twisting of state officials' took place. Can you substantiate any indication that this was the case?
So much partisan tripe. You are dismissed.