I think the most telling association is Frank Marshall Davis. Known simply as Frank in Obama's book. He was his mentor in his formative yrs. starting at age 10.
Also what's not to believe about Van Jones. He admits to being a self avowed Communist. Are you calling Van Jones a liar?
Davis and Barack Obama
In his memoir Dreams from My Father, Barack Obama wrote about "Frank", a friend of his grandfather's. "Frank" told Obama that he and Stanley (Obama's maternal grandfather) both had grown up only 50 miles apart, near Wichita, although they did not meet until Hawaii. He described the way race relations were back then, including Jim Crow, and his view that there had been little progress since then. As Obama remembered, "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Power, dashiki self. In some ways he was as incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."[19] Obama also remembered Frank later in life when he took a job in South Chicago as a community organizer and took some time one day to visit the areas where Frank had lived and wrote in his book, "I imagined Frank in a baggy suit and wide lapels, standing in front of the old Regal Theatre, waiting to see Duke or Ella emerge from a gig." [20]
Gerald Horne, a contributing editor to the CPUSA official publication Political Affairs, identified "Frank" as Davis, and "a decisive influence in helping Obama to find his present identity" as an African-American.[21] Claims that Davis was a political influence on Obama were reiterated in the hotly-disputed anti-Obama book The Obama Nation.[22] A rebuttal released by Obama's presidential campaign, titled Unfit for Publication, confirmed that "Frank" was, in fact, Frank Marshall Davis, but disputes certain claims about the nature of their relationship.[23]
Frank Marshall Davis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Damn I love Sci Fi and all but heck the nerds come up with so many rules it ruins the whole thing.:mrgreen:
There was something I heard James Carville say about the news media nowadays. "People nowadays use the news channels the way a drunk uses a lamppost - for support instead of illumination." He went on to explain how people today don't listen to pundits to get information - rather, they listen to pundits to get validation of their own political beliefs. And pundits do that validation so they can gain an audience that they can then sell commercials to.
I think this is, sadly, exactly what goes on these days. People are looking for nothing more than confirmation of their ideals without having to think about the ramifications or the realities of what they call for. So they turn to emotional outburst and hyperbole in order to confirm their own beliefs. I watch FOX news a bit, I try to catch Hannity. But it's hard to watch. Not only is it mostly intellectually dishonest and propaganda, but people eat up these words without much thought at all. I can't help but think that on some level we're regressing back to monkeys.
I think this is, sadly, exactly what goes on these days. People are looking for nothing more than confirmation of their ideals without having to think about the ramifications or the realities of what they call for. So they turn to emotional outburst and hyperbole in order to confirm their own beliefs. I watch FOX news a bit, I try to catch Hannity. But it's hard to watch. Not only is it mostly intellectually dishonest and propaganda, but people eat up these words without much thought at all. I can't help but think that on some level we're regressing back to monkeys.
Well, to be fair, Carville then went on to say that that was the same kind of climate for news media back in the Colonial days that caused the Colonies to rebel against the British. Only instead of the internet and 24-hour cable news channels, we had printing pressing pumping out pamphlets as fast as they could be written.
But I don't put the blame on the news media that pumps out whatever will sell commercials - I blame the people who only seek validation rather than information in their news.
Whose protesting the military now? You were making the statement it seemed that protests/rallies concerning the military (Such as anti-war protests, pro-war rallies, etc) are suggesting those people do'nt think "our troops deserve our undivided attention while at war?"
Which is funny, because you're suggesting that doing a protest that...perhaps even partisan in nature...is supposed to be in part about supporting the troops and is donating money to troops is enough to chastise someone about apparently not giving our troops our undivided attention while at war, and yet I never once can remember you chastising anti-war protestors in a similar way for their actions regarding the military.
Correct, and thanks for proving my point. You could say this about any politician, with Obama being an extreme example recently, yet you generally don't yet of course you come out swinging about it with Beck. Making your comment look incredibly disingenuous.
There's no indication prior to the "I'm convinced of it" to indicate he's switching into that type of phrasing again. Its the end, after saying that YOU'LL make the changes and stating his view on that.
I hope it will be something much, much deeper than a tea party. I believe what we are creating is going to be something that will be one for the history books. There is not going to be one word of politics from the stage, not one. Because the way to fix Washington is not through politics but through each of us as individuals. Because when we fix ourselves and we are united on the principle of honor and honesty and integrity, they will fear us like they've never feared us before.
He mentions the game earlier, talking about being part of the problem or the solution in Washington. He references the game in that passage, talking about how "you don't have to solve Washington. The tea parties have the backdrop of the capitol. The capitol could go into a giant sinkhole as far as I'm concerned. Doesn't matter to me. You are not going to be able to go in there and fix that."
The game, that he's referencing, is the political game played on the capital where people are trying to fix Washington. He's suggesting you can either keep playing that, or be like what he's describing Washington and Lincoln as doing and fix the COUNTRY.
No, he said "Once you do that and then make your choice"
Seriously, I'm not a fan of Beck, but in no way shape or form is he suggesting he's like Lincoln or Washington
I agree. I retract that accusation.
Don't be so quick to judge next time. Your prejudice against Beck got in the way of your reading comprehension.
I'm human. I still think it will be a partisan/political affair.
Have any liberals been invited to perform?
No idea. Would any liberals put aside their prejudices against Glenn Beck long enough to find out what it's actually about?
I'm human. I still think it will be a partisan/political affair.
Have any liberals been invited to perform?
When someone loses credibility like he has done then people will be prejudiced against them. I'd listen to George Will.
No idea. Would any liberals put aside their prejudices against Glenn Beck long enough to find out what it's actually about?
I asked this question before. It was an honest question. I'd really like to know if there are any liberal speakers asked to perform.
When someone loses credibility like he has done then people will be prejudiced against them. I'd listen to George Will.
Just because people may not like him or what he has to say, doesn't mean he lacks credibility.
"Loses credibility" like you pretended he said something he never said at all?
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