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Will the GOP ever nominate a non racist for president again?

Will the GOP ever nominate a non racist for president again?

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renee said:
I suffered a lot and what you see as delusions I see as reality. As an activist feminist in the 70s, I couldn’t get a credit card without my husband’s approval, I couldn’t get a bank loan and I got less pay for the same work as men … I had no reproductive freedom.
When judges appointed by Trump voted against women’s reproductive freedom, I saw women going backwards.
I will guess that you are a white male who has had privileges for centuries while women and people of color were considered less… and it bothers you that you have to share the pie
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None of this even remotely related to the topic which was being discussed, unifying, division, identity politics, campaign rhetoric, and even, possibly, the thread's "Will the GOP ever nominate a non racist for president again?" - divisive and false all in it's own right.
If you want to return to any of those topics. OK.

As for the rant above, I'll pass thanks.
 
By all accounts so far, Gen. Charles CQ Brown earned his position though Hegseth muses otherwise.

About 30% of Americans agree with Trump's current approach to the job.

ETA: any hiring or promotion system can be racist, including those with DEI policies. The records of the DEI offices offer the needed evidence on the competitive qualities of candidates.

If "GOP"refuse to examine those records and just smash the system and start firing all non-white men, then that record speaks to racism & misogyny.
 
Further to my previous comment - who examines the records vis-a-vis appropriateness in the military? JAG
 
eohrnberger said:
None of this even remotely related to the topic which was being discussed, unifying, division, identity politics, campaign rhetoric, and even, possibly, the thread's "Will the GOP ever nominate a non racist for president again?" - divisive and false all in it's own right.
If you want to return to any of those topics. OK.

As for the rant above, I'll pass thanks.
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The fact that you don’t see the connection is sad.
Racism and sexism have many similarities…. They have both been held down.
 
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What I find so fascinating is that many people imply that women and people of color are not competent
Did they say that the white men who graduated from Harvard and Princeton and Yale were not qualified because they didn’t have to compete with more than half the population?
 
renee said:
The fact that you don’t see the connection is sad.
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Sorry, but there doesn't seem to be any connection to be had in what was being discussed and your post, at least not that I can see.
Perhaps if you care to elaborate?

renee said:
Racism and sexism have many similarities…. They have both been held down.
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Well, 'held down', i.e. being reduced, at least up until
eohrnberger said:
This point being supported by the public record.

Gallup Poll Reveals Obama Has Turned Back Clock On Race Relations​

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www.nytimes.com

Race Relations Are at Lowest Point in Obama Presidency, Poll Finds (Published 2016)

A New York Times/CBS News Poll indicates that relations between African-Americans and the police are so brittle that the attack that killed five officers in Dallas left many respondents unsurprised.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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nypost.com

How Obama has turned back the clock on race relations

Americans celebrating Martin Luther King Day today should be proud of the incredible progress made since the civil-rights leader’s birth 87 years ago. At the same time, we should lament one of Pres…
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This is pretty clearly just a blatant troll thread.

Curious why the admins and moderators didn't take an action....?

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renee said:
As far as divisiveness goes, I have never seen such division intentionally made by the president of the United States. You tend to be very logical, but often logic is not psychological. It is like telling someone not to cry when a loved one dies because you can’t bring him back.. that is very logical, but not psychological
Fact that you see Trump the way you do, doesn’t make you an enemy, but it stresses how we have different values
You comment that Trump has only been in office a month or so and you don’t know much about everything he’s done. How about pardoning all those people who broke into the capital searching for people who didn’t support Trump? You know the ones who attacked the police etc…
I also came here to hear the other side, and I came here to learn about prejudices. I am finishing another book called “I am not prejudiced………but!”
It deals with all the unacknowledged prejudices and yes, we all have prejudices, but we are not aware of them. And political leanings is one of them… people are not talking to family members because of political differences. I have been on this earth a long time and I have never seen a division like this …intentionally planned. By the president.
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EDIT: upon re-reading this post, I have realized that it's possible you(the person I've quoted) could misinterpret "you" to mean "you personally" and not "a person in general". I'm just making general statements and I hope you won't take them personally... Anyways...

1 - Logic is the best way to make an argument. If you have an argument that disagrees with logic, your argument is likely to be wrong. And I only say "likely to be" because I'm trying to be polite.
2 - Saying logic is not psychological is not the same thing as saying psychology is not logical. And psychology is logical, because everything is logical. It's just a question of whether or not you understand it.
3 - I did comment on the Jan 6th pardons. I don't think just being at the building at the time makes you a criminal. I don't have time to research every person he pardoned. Again, this is just a question of whether you trust his judgement.

I think it's a little drastic to say that the president planned for family members not to talk to each other. This, like every other political discussion, basically comes down to your perception of what kind of person the president is. I don't think he's intentionally dividing people, I just think he's putting what he thinks our national interests are, ahead of bipartisanship. The fact that he has so many people's support just shows how far things have departed from the way things should be in this country, according to many people's opinions.

One of the problems with the left in general (present company possibly excluded) is they don't often have a down-to-earth discussion with someone on the other side and ask them "what are all the things about modern day America that you are opposed to?". I think you will find the list is a lot longer than just transgender rights and an insecure border. Democrats hear someone on the radio discussing issues and hear about all the things this person is saying and think he is an extremist, when in fact he just represents the views of mainstream conservative America. The ratings of shows like that would easily prove that if you didn't take the stance that people are being brainwashed. People just tend to listen to what they agree with.
I've said it before here and I'll say it again; Trump is basically just a figurehead of the already existing divisiveness in this country. I have no problem talking to any person with different views than mine, because I know they just don't understand my point of view.

Anyways, I'm open to any discussion. I think the biggest difference (ironically) between right and left is perception of the other side's leadership. If I was 100% convinced Biden was a communist and I heard someone make a good point and I told myself I couldn't listen because that's something Biden would agree with then I'd be ignoring a good point and that's never a good thing to do.
That's all I have to say for now. Thanks again, have a nice day
 
renee said:
I think we’re playing with semantics equity is this
often, specifically : freedom from disparities in the way peopleof different races, genders, etc. are treated
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I think we are playing with lack of knowledge, don't you? Just because you want an acronym to be something doesn't mean it is. The poster was in error. There is nothing that can be said now that will change that.
 
Absentglare said:
Ironic. You think discrimination is when you include all types of people.
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You don't know what I think. You don't even know what DEI stands for.
Absentglare said:
Okay, you get to work on that.
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You need to get to work on getting your facts straight before you start telling people what they think.

Do better.
 
Far right dem said:
There used to be a time when the republicans nominated candidates that weren't racist for president. Folks like bush, mccain, and romney. Now it seems like racism is a feature and not a bug of the trump movement. I fear that this will become the norm. Every candidate that runs for the GOP nomination sees this winning formula and will replicate it. Candidates will try to out racist each other. What do yall think?
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After Trump totally destroys the party. A small core of Republicans with backbones will pick up the pieces and run a decent candidate.
 
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You don't know what I think. You don't even know what DEI stands for.

You need to get to work on getting your facts straight before you start telling people what they think.

Do better.
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So you don’t understand how DEI is opposed to discrimination.
 
Far right dem said:
There used to be a time when the republicans nominated candidates that weren't racist for president. Folks like bush, mccain, and romney. Now it seems like racism is a feature and not a bug of the trump movement. I fear that this will become the norm. Every candidate that runs for the GOP nomination sees this winning formula and will replicate it. Candidates will try to out racist each other. What do yall think?
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Not in my lifetime.
 
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I do know that you don't know what DEI stands for. Everyone knows that now.
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You’re struggling with the fact that you were completely wrong about DEI favoring discrimination.
 
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I think we are playing with lack of knowledge, don't you? Just because you want an acronym to be something doesn't mean it is. The poster was in error. There is nothing that can be said now that will change that.
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If you support equity, are you are supporting equality?
 
Hip septuagenarian said:
Please explain how the enlarged words could possibly be true.
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Oh, that’s easy Trump said he is the least racist person in the world. He’s also the best at everything.. It must be true because he repeats this over and over and his magasbelieve it.
 
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