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Will Palin's Words Come Back To Haunt Her?

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During the presidential campaign, Governor Sarah Palin made many comments about parts of America being "pro-America parts of America", and about there being "real Americans". We saw how badly Obama was bludgeoned with his "bitter comments." What do you think the chances are of these quotes coming back and haunting Palin in 2012 when she runs for president? I can see how these quotes can be taken to be very insulting to urban Americans, and to people who aren't conservatives.

We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe" -- here the audience interrupted Palin with applause and cheers -- "We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom."
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Will Obama's words every come back to haunt him?
 
So we can't ask the identical question? Can you predict whose and which words will haunt whom? Do you have a crystal ball or some other method to peer into the future? I don't, so who can answer such a question without just guessing?
 
American said:
So we can't ask the identical question? Can you predict whose and which words will haunt whom? Do you have a crystal ball or some other method to peer into the future? I don't, so who can answer such a question without just guessing?
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You may ask what you like. As can I. I did. It was my creative way of pointing out that your response was a deflection from the topic. This isn't a "Things people say that come back to haunt them." Sure, we all say things that come back to haunt us. This thread is more specific.

"Obama" isn't the answer to every question about Palin.

I've lived in "real America". It's pathetic. My crystal ball says that this will haunt her.
 
I think so, maybe not those specific ones, but all her "answers" to questions and things of that nature will come back. Palin should just walk away, we don't need any more mental midgets in Washington. I'm not so sure the "real America" thing is as damaging as all the other things she has said.
 
:lol: where is Captian? I want to show him how it's the conservatives who won't let Palin go....
 
Moderator's Warning:
Asking a question to show an identical situation is legitimate.

Not dealing one tiny itty bitty bit with the original post and instead just making a one line attempt to derail the conversation onto a completely different topic is not.

If you don't want to comment at least somewhat on the original post and just want to try to derail it into an "attack the other guy" situation, take it to another thread as that's just trolling
 
I don't think it'll come back to haunt her really. I dont think there's a lot to really be haunted about.

Those in the extreme left wing will be offended by it, but then they wouldn't have been part of the voting block Palin could be expecting in 2012 anyways.

I think most people see it as someone complimenting and proping up small town America, hardly an evil thing. I don't see her calling those that live in city unamerican, or evil, or bad.

But I think the biggest reason they won't come back to haunt her is because most politicians know you can find this kind of stuff on any politician. All of them say these sort of platitudes when they visit small town areas, as a means of trying to "connect" to them.

Obama's comment about guns and religion wasn't so much a "this'll sway people to vote against" him moment, it was a "this may piss off those on the right that were apathetic and not going to vote to actually stand up and vote". With that in mind, I don't see these comments by Palin having a similar affect to those on the left.
 
Zyphlin said:
I don't think it'll come back to haunt her really. I dont think there's a lot to really be haunted about.

Those in the extreme left wing will be offended by it, but then they wouldn't have been part of the voting block Palin could be expecting in 2012 anyways.

I think most people see it as someone complimenting and proping up small town America, hardly an evil thing. I don't see her calling those that live in city unamerican, or evil, or bad.

But I think the biggest reason they won't come back to haunt her is because most politicians know you can find this kind of stuff on any politician. All of them say these sort of platitudes when they visit small town areas, as a means of trying to "connect" to them.

Obama's comment about guns and religion wasn't so much a "this'll sway people to vote against" him moment, it was a "this may piss off those on the right that were apathetic and not going to vote to actually stand up and vote". With that in mind, I don't see these comments by Palin having a similar affect to those on the left.
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Talking up small towns can be done in a way that is not devisive. "Real America" is devisive. It's akin to religions that claim to be the "one true religion". By default, that makes others inferior. She could talk up their values all day long and it would be fine. By using the word "real" it is unmistakeable that she was drawing a line that was previously set up for her by the sycophantic pundits that have chortled this devisive garbage for years on end. It wasn't the platitudes that got her in trouble. It was the modifier.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Talking up small towns can be done in a way that is not devisive. "Real America" is devisive. It's akin to religions that claim to be the "one true religion". By default, that makes others inferior. She could talk up their values all day long and it would be fine. By using the word "real" it is unmistakeable that she was drawing a line that was previously set up for her by the sycophantic pundits that have chortled this devisive garbage for years on end. It wasn't the platitudes that got her in trouble. It was the modifier.
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:lol: did you find "bitter americans" devisive?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Talking up small towns can be done in a way that is not devisive. "Real America" is devisive. It's akin to religions that claim to be the "one true religion". By default, that makes others inferior. She could talk up their values all day long and it would be fine. By using the word "real" it is unmistakeable that she was drawing a line that was previously set up for her by the sycophantic pundits that have chortled this devisive garbage for years on end. It wasn't the platitudes that got her in trouble. It was the modifier.
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And that's fine if that's your opinion of it.

I still think it will have no affect.

What she said isn't going to spur any leftists who were going to not vote in 2012 to suddenly get out to vote.

I don't think its going to turn any people on the right off of her.

I don't think its nearly offensive enough to where its going to cause her any TRUE moderate/indepenent votes or support. While it was perhaps insulting, I do think Obama's would've been looked at as more insulting, and it did little for moderates I think. Obama's was a direct insult to a specific group of people. Palin's is an indirect (calling one group something good, thus making it defacto assumed the opposite group isn't good).

All in all I think its something some on the left are desperately trying to grasp at to have something to yap about negatively about Palin, or the due to the stated desire by some people on this board for a while now to "give the conservatives a taste of their own medicine" like a bunch of smarmy annoying little 3rd graders.

I think it'll have little to absolutely no impact.
 
If you live in NYC, L.A., Miami, Houston, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Diego, San Francisco, Albuquerque, Orlando you are not in the real America. Is that really hard for anybody to understand?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Yes it was devisive when people took that out of context. :lol:

I see some are still bitter. :2razz:
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So Palin is "in context" and Obama is "out of context"?


Please explain Obama's context then. :doh


Maybe I should have the "independent" in my username instead of you. :mrgreen:
 
Hatuey said:
If you live in NYC, L.A., Miami, Houston, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Diego, San Francisco, Albuquerque, Orlando you are not in the real America. Is that really hard for anybody to understand?
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And if you live everywhere else, you are a bitter religious nut clinging to your guns; Is that really hard for anybody to understand? :roll:
 
I for one don't let politicians define who I or my countrymen are.


I go to these places, talk to the people and eat thier delicious food.


I find politicians to be bitter, and many not "Real Americans".....
 
Truth Detector said:
And if you live everywhere else, you are a bitter religious nut clinging to your guns; Is that really hard for anybody to understand? :roll:
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And if you live in Texas you have a horse chew tobacco have a ten gallon hat and shoot guns:lol:
 
the makeout hobo said:
During the presidential campaign, Governor Sarah Palin made many comments about parts of America being "pro-America parts of America", and about there being "real Americans". We saw how badly Obama was bludgeoned with his "bitter comments." What do you think the chances are of these quotes coming back and haunting Palin in 2012 when she runs for president? I can see how these quotes can be taken to be very insulting to urban Americans, and to people who aren't conservatives.
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She'll never make it past the primaries.
 
Zyphlin said:
And that's fine if that's your opinion of it.

I still think it will have no affect.

What she said isn't going to spur any leftists who were going to not vote in 2012 to suddenly get out to vote.

I don't think its going to turn any people on the right off of her.

I don't think its nearly offensive enough to where its going to cause her any TRUE moderate/indepenent votes or support. While it was perhaps insulting, I do think Obama's would've been looked at as more insulting, and it did little for moderates I think. Obama's was a direct insult to a specific group of people. Palin's is an indirect (calling one group something good, thus making it defacto assumed the opposite group isn't good).

All in all I think its something some on the left are desperately trying to grasp at to have something to yap about negatively about Palin, or the due to the stated desire by some people on this board for a while now to "give the conservatives a taste of their own medicine" like a bunch of smarmy annoying little 3rd graders.

I think it'll have little to absolutely no impact.
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It could be used against her. It's what gets hammered the most and sticks that matters. It could be effectively used against her by the left. I guess I am of the opinion that if the left uses it against her effectively, it will haunt her. Of course, they may not and you would be correct. She may say something worse.

She's far too eccentric for national office. Sure, Obama has dark skin, but he's a fairly white-bread guy.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So Palin is "in context" and Obama is "out of context"?


Please explain Obama's context then. :doh


Maybe I should have the "independent" in my username instead of you. :mrgreen:
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Perhaps you missed the emoticons.

It's President Elect Obama. Try saying it. :2razz:
 
Truth Detector said:
And if you live everywhere else, you are a bitter religious nut clinging to your guns; Is that really hard for anybody to understand? :roll:
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One was a public proclamation. The other was a private fundraiser.

It's ironic what happens when someone is called bitter.

We can agree on that, right? :mrgreen:
 
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