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With social and political movements fighting for the equal rights of gays, the possibility of political and social moments gaining new rights for polygamy in the future do you think theres any logical reason to assume this will lead to legalizing child rape, molestation and sexual abuse for pedophilia rights?
A very small super minority do, they think that equal gay rights and future polygamy rights are equal to pedophilia.
Facts remains though there is no logic to support this broken train of thought because equal gay rights (gay marriage) and polygamy marriage do not need society to ignore, change or legalize the words: rape, minors, consent, abuse, molestation, assault, force and victim.
Now are there people on the planet that will say its equal rights or the same? im sure, theres people on the planet still fighting against gay rights, woman rights and minority rights, big whoop lol
I say this logic is severly broken because they aren't similar at all.
so the question is, will equal gay rights and possible future polygamy rights lead to legalized pedophilia?
Trying to compare non-consensual concepts with consensual concepts is really stretching logic and reality quite a bit.
We covered this in another thread. I stated there as well as here that legalized pedophilia is unlikely to happen.
yes there was a similar thread but i want to expand on it an have a poll
why do you think its "unlikely"
It has to do with consent and power. A child is neither capable of making right decisions, nor is powerful to defend the decision even if it is right. A law that stops child rape is thus rightful in its place.
How rightful it is in its place I think is shared from both legal abiding citizens and criminals. They were concerned where to put Jerry Sandusky since he may be killed from inmates themselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKluTaQb8cI
1 - If you think kids don't coerce or use imbalance of power to get sex from each other, you're a fool.
2 - The more permissive and less restrictive society becomes about sex the farther we march toward pedophilic normalization.
I don't think it will lead to legalized pedophilia either. However, I do see a trend towards normalization of pedophilic tendencies, and society in the coming decades will not see child/adult relationships in such harsh black and white terms anymore. The trend has already begun with the myriad female teacher sex scandals, mainstreaming of more and more revealing and adult themed costuming at child pageants, and the overall perception that "kids are going to experiment anyway". If you think kids don't coerce or use imbalance of power to get sex from each other, you're a fool.
The more permissive and less restrictive society becomes about sex the farther we march toward pedophilic normalization.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Laugh if you want. Throw whatever kind of condescending one liner you want at me.
But remember what I said twenty years from now.
That's as likely as exceptions for religious organisations in anti-discrimination laws leading to exceptions for religious organisations in anti-paedophilia laws.so the question is, will equal gay rights and possible future polygamy rights lead to legalized pedophilia?
The only thing I'd see even MILDLY feasible is a push to move the age of consent downwards into the early teen years rather than the 16-18 year old range that is currently in place. However that's unlikely to happen. Not because of the ridiculous faux scenario that the OP created by pointedly presenting a biased presentation of the situation using hot button words on one end as a means of an argument. Rather, it's because there is less of a political base that is likely to care about expanding the rights of youth which is really what the movement would have to be predicated on to happen. If it were to ever begin getting pushed it would not be a movement to "Let old guys trick young women to have sex with them", it'd be a movement to allow "Young people who mature at a quicker pace then in the past make responsable decisions over their own body and life". The problem is that the initial push for movements to get going typically come from those WITHIN that groups base, and youth are notoriously poor in terms of organizing political pressure.
whats faux about it, yes i laid it on thick but its 100% factual. Those things would have to change, be ignored or legalized and thats reality :shrug:
That we'd need to "change or legalize the words: rape, minors, consent, abuse, molestation, assault, force and victim."
1.) No. All you'd need to change is the legal age of consent.
Since you're going off the "if it changes how it works in any fashion in a literalistic sense" to back up your argument....no problem.
2.)From now on you should also be saying that to allow for "gay rights" society must ignore or change the words: deivent, pervert, and3.) sodomy.
4.)Since all those words would change somewhat if gay marriage was the norm in society.
1.)Goal post changing. You did not indicate nor suggest in any way that you're speaking specifically and singularly regarding the legal definition of words. If talking about legal definition...
2.)most of the ones you listed wouldn't need to change. Rape, Abuse, Molestation, Assault, Force, Victim, etc would not need to change one big from their legal definition. All that would be changing, at most, would be the notion of consent and minor...specifically the lowering of them to a particular degree.
I don't honestly believe it'd be harder for society to move past the notion of viewing homosexuality as a "deviant behavior" than it would be for society to move into a notion that "13 year olds should have the ability to make decisions concerning their own bodies". I think one is farther fetched then the other currently, and as I said I don't think the latter is likely to gain political momentum for a large variety of reasons...but I don't think either inherently would be more unwieldy for a society to embrace in a general sense.
3.)As you yourself admitted, you laid it on thick. You laid it on thick like so many of the anti-gay marriage people do and for the same reason...your argument was horribly put together, massively weak, and you didn't wish to give the intellectual energy to actually combat it so you went the simple, lazy, sensationalized way of using emotional buzzwords and a biased presentation as a means of trying to shock people into agreement with you.
I don't think it will lead to legalized pedophilia either. However, I do see a trend towards normalization of pedophilic tendencies, and society in the coming decades will not see child/adult relationships in such harsh black and white terms anymore. The trend has already begun with the myriad female teacher sex scandals, mainstreaming of more and more revealing and adult themed costuming at child pageants, and the overall perception that "kids are going to experiment anyway". If you think kids don't coerce or use imbalance of power to get sex from each other, you're a fool.
The more permissive and less restrictive society becomes about sex the farther we march toward pedophilic normalization.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Laugh if you want. Throw whatever kind of condescending one liner you want at me.
But remember what I said twenty years from now.
I wanted to vote no, but increasing normalization of so-called "gay rights" has already slid down the slope towards normalization of polygamy (as witnessed in the OP).
I wanted to vote no, but increasing normalization of so-called "gay rights" has already slid down the slope towards normalization of polygamy (as witnessed in the OP).
I wanted to vote no, but increasing normalization of so-called "gay rights" has already slid down the slope towards normalization of polygamy (as witnessed in the OP).
Does that mean you believe the road will continue to the normalization of pedophilia?
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