Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Police

[Blue_State]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html?_r=0

CHARLOTTE — A cellphone camera video made by the wife of Keith L. Scott before he was fatally shot by police here shows the moments before and after the incident, including the wife’s pleas to her husband to get out of his truck, and her pleas to the police not to shoot him.

I bet riots are going to grow from this video. From this perspective, not sure he has a gun.

Should the NY Times have published the video?

[video]http://nyti.ms/2ctlGns[/video]

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html?_r=0



I bet riots are going to grow from this video. From this perspective, not sure he has a gun.

Should the NY Times have published the video?

[video]http://nyti.ms/2ctlGns[/video]

Nope.
It's just fuel on the fire.
Good job NY times clickbait dumpster fire.
Holding it a couple of more days would been better, when people had simmered down.

 

[WCH]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

It doesn't show much. I doubt the rioters will need any excuses. [although, it is Friday night]

 

[Blue_State]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

It doesn't show much. I doubt the rioters will need any excuses. [although, it is Friday night]

I don't think they are going to watch it, but the fact that it exists may add fuel to the fire. This was exactly what the PD was hoping to avoid.

 

[Erod]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/779045478642098176

 

[Lutherf]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

It does show a few things.

It shows that the cops were in raid vests so the "weren't in uniform" thing doesn't fly.

It shows that the cops gave multiple orders to drop the gun so the "walked up and assassinated him" stuff doesn't fly either.

It shows the cops giving him medical attention immediately.

You can hear the photographer's voice getting more and more excited just before the shots are fired. The transcript says she was trying to get her husband to stand still and the urgency in her voice could indicate that she perceived that his moves might be considered threatening by the cops.

As far as the question about the Times releasing the video goes, my understanding is that the family wanted it released so I have no problem with it.

 

[WCH]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/779045478642098176

Excellent...lot of stories told in that short clip.

 

[Blue_State]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

It does show a few things.

It shows that the cops were in raid vests so the "weren't in uniform" thing doesn't fly.

It shows that the cops gave multiple orders to drop the gun so the "walked up and assassinated him" stuff doesn't fly either.

It shows the cops giving him medical attention immediately.

You can hear the photographer's voice getting more and more excited just before the shots are fired. The transcript says she was trying to get her husband to stand still and the urgency in her voice could indicate that she perceived that his moves might be considered threatening by the cops.

As far as the question about the Times releasing the video goes, my understanding is that the family wanted it released so I have no problem with it.

I have to agree with it sounding like her voice implies an escalation in urgency. Furthermore, I would agree that she felt his actions were escalating the situation or that the cops were preparing to escalate.

 

[WCH]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

It does show a few things.

It shows that the cops were in raid vests so the "weren't in uniform" thing doesn't fly.

It shows that the cops gave multiple orders to drop the gun so the "walked up and assassinated him" stuff doesn't fly either.

It shows the cops giving him medical attention immediately.

You can hear the photographer's voice getting more and more excited just before the shots are fired. The transcript says she was trying to get her husband to stand still and the urgency in her voice could indicate that she perceived that his moves might be considered threatening by the cops.

As far as the question about the Times releasing the video goes, my understanding is that the family wanted it released so I have no problem with it.

I'm surprised that video wasn't put on social media post haste.

 

[Blue_State]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

I did hear an interesting stat today that more than 40% of cop shootings are from black men, while 6.1% of the population is black male. Have not confirmed it yet, but it would make me more weary to know that the risk goes up with a certain population.

 

[Hicup]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Sounds to me that this woman knew her Husband was prone to ignoring the police. If anything this video shows that the cops were not out to murder someone that day and if he had only complied, he would be alive.

Tim-

 

[Renae]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-scott-shooting-video.html?_r=0



I bet riots are going to grow from this video. From this perspective, not sure he has a gun.

Should the NY Times have published the video?

[video]http://nyti.ms/2ctlGns[/video]

Doesn't matter at this point, you could post video of the man shooting a cop in the head and the rioters wouldn't give two ****s, and neither would have the posters around here.

 

[Erod]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Sounds to me that this woman knew her Husband was prone to ignoring the police. If anything this video shows that the cops were not out to murder someone that day and if he had only complied, he would be alive.

Tim-

She didn't sound surprised or terrible distraught about the whole thing.

 

[Lutherf]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

I'm reading the diary about this on another site and the general consensus over there seems to be that this video proves the cops planted the gun to cover themselves.

Seriously.

To believe that you'd have to also believe that the cops intended to shoot the guy, had brought along a gun to plant as soon as they shot him and then, in the couple of seconds after shooting him had a first thought to cover their crime. And all of this when going to that apartment complex to serve a warrant on someone else.

There just isn't a good way to handle that kind of delusion.

-edit-

I don't want to link to another site but if anyone else reads that diary, looks at the pictures they posted and reads the comments about the gun being a plant it's a graphic representation of why I HATE the idea of releasing the police videos to the public right away. The "analysis" in that thread is unconscionable.

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Nope.
It's just fuel on the fire.
Good job NY times clickbait dumpster fire.
Holding it a couple of more days would been better, when people had simmered down.

Seriously, the video adds nothing to the situation and simply serves as a means of stoking the fire and playing on emotions. It's 100% impossible to tell from the video whether he had a gun or not, and she is 100% in a worse position to potentially see if he had a gun or not than the police that were actually close up to him.

Ridiculous and serves absolutely no purpose. Really wishing my wife's first week down in Charlotte wasn't this one....

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Seriously, the video adds nothing to the situation and simply serves as a means of stoking the fire and playing on emotions. It's 100% impossible to tell from the video whether he had a gun or not, and she is 100% in a worse position to potentially see if he had a gun or not than the police that were actually close up to him.

Ridiculous and serves absolutely no purpose. Really wishing my wife's first week down in Charlotte wasn't this one....

Actually I think it does serve a purpose. In the video, Scott's wife states that her husband has a traumatic brain injury, and is pleading with the cops not to shoot her husband.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Seriously, the video adds nothing to the situation and simply serves as a means of stoking the fire and playing on emotions. It's 100% impossible to tell from the video whether he had a gun or not, and she is 100% in a worse position to potentially see if he had a gun or not than the police that were actually close up to him.

Ridiculous and serves absolutely no purpose. Really wishing my wife's first week down in Charlotte wasn't this one....

Nothing but clickbait, news making, not news reporting.
Things like this should have anyone questioning the medias intent and purpose.

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

her husband has a traumatic brain injury

This is utterly irrelevant if the situation is such that he had a gun and was reacting in a questionable fashion. Having a brain injury and/or being on medication does not make one incapable of posing a threat.

and is pleading with the cops not to shoot her husband.

Which is absolutely and 100% irrelevant. The actions of the police should have been SINGULARLY based around the actions of the individual they were dealing with in that situation, not the pleas nor the agitation of an onlooker. Whether she was pleading with the cops or heckling them should have had zero impact on how they handled the situation regarding the victim in this case. The only "purpose" of showing her pleading with the cops from afar is to stoke feelings and attempt to appeal to peoples emotions regarding the issue.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

This is utterly irrelevant if the situation is such that he had a gun and was reacting in a questionable fashion. Having a brain injury and/or being on medication does not make one incapable of posing a threat.



Which is absolutely and 100% irrelevant. The actions of the police should have been SINGULARLY based around the actions of the individual they were dealing with in that situation, not the pleas nor the agitation of an onlooker. Whether she was pleading with the cops or heckling them should have had zero impact on how they handled the situation regarding the victim in this case. The only "purpose" of showing her pleading with the cops from afar is to stoke feelings and attempt to appeal to peoples emotions regarding the issue.

And the man the police were dealing with at that moment may have been unable to understand the situation because he was impaired by a traumatic brain injury, I think that information should have made the police change their tactics.

 

[j-mac]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

And the man the police were dealing with at that moment may have been unable to understand the situation because he was impaired by a traumatic brain injury, I think that information should have made the police change their tactics.

Yeah, we know....They should have just slowly backed off, got in their cars and left right?

 

[Lutherf]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Actually I think it does serve a purpose. In the video, Scott's wife states that her husband has a traumatic brain injury, and is pleading with the cops not to shoot her husband.

Believe it or not, when the cops are focused on a guy they believe to be armed who is not following their instructions they probably aren't paying attention to someone else who is yelling at them. Even if they did pay attention his injury does not preclude the threat they are addressing. People with mental issues can and do commit violent acts.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Yeah, we know....They should have just slowly backed off, got in their cars and left right?

No....

They should have tried to handle the situation by defusing the tension of the situation. If Scott did have a gun, the cops should have tried to reason with Scott and make him willingly drop his gun.

 

[Lutherf]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Yeah, we know....They should have just slowly backed off, got in their cars and left right?

It's why I constantly recommend that the DoJ assign an SJW to ride with the cops and initiate every engagement. For some reason nobody ever takes me up on the idea.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

Believe it or not, when the cops are focused on a guy they believe to be armed who is not following their instructions they probably aren't paying attention to someone else who is yelling at them. Even if they did pay attention his injury does not preclude the threat they are addressing. People with mental issues can and do commit violent acts.

But the police could have defused the tension of the situation and make Scott more willing to drop his gun.

 

[reinoe]

Re: Wife of Keith Scott, Charlotte Shooting Victim, Filmed Fatal Encounter With Polic

She didn't sound surprised or terrible distraught about the whole thing.

She may have had a life insurance policy.