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Great, so you have no proof for your claims. Then we can just dismiss your claims as rhetoric and unfounded opinion. I can move on now. Your lame attempts at bunching people together as "from Christian parents" as "liberals" etc even leave less credence for your previous unfounded stances. Sorry, this isn't a debate, this is just a person whining.FreeThinker said:Wow you people have some SERIOIUS issues with religion. I thought liberals were supposed to be the over tolerant ones. What happened to respect for other ways of life? That doesn't apply to someone who's life revolves around faith?
About me proving what I say about religion, why? I'm not debating the exact dates of events. I am debating opinions about religion based on a lifetime of experiences.
Any idiot with access to the internet can type "religion benefits" into a search engine and pull up a mountain of websites for and against his or her opinon. There is no point in wasting 10 minutes of my life copying and pasting links from google that support my viewpoint. You would not read them anyway, so lets not play that game.
Here are my opinions, feel free to disagree (just don't try and debate me with google):
Some tree hugger earlier in the thread mentioned that Bin Laden would not have hated or attacked the US if it was not for religion, and to that person I say LOLOLOLOL.
Bin Laden hates us because in his opinon, we used islamic nations as pawns against the soviet empire (aka the evil empire). He hates the fact that we meddle in middle eastern affairs. He mentions this in EVERY one of his videos.
Bin Laden uses excerpts from the Koran to back up his viewpoint. Whoodeedoo. Does that mean the Koran is what made him hate the US? Of course not you idiot. The Cold War made him hate the US.
Respected muslim scolars everywhere have been saying for years that terrorists misuse the Koran for violence. But you surrender monkeys keep blaming religious texts for the problems in the world.
Listen here liberals: I know you want to rebel against your Christian parents for making you go to church every sunday. I know it was boring and you hated it. I know the wooden pews made your little asses hurt. But how about rising above all that.
Both the bible and the koran set forth basic rules for humans to peacefully co-exist with each other. So page 1290381 of revelations or some crap has a verse that says kill people. Wow. One reference to violence in thousands of pages of "love thy neighbor, turn your cheek, do not steal, be humble and modest". You Tofu eating vegan college kids are always highlighting the bad things and refusing to acknowledge the good things with religion.
Such intolerance from the self proclaimed party of peace never ceases to amaze me.
Both the bible and the koran set forth basic rules for humans to peacefully co-exist with each other.
So page 1290381 of revelations or some crap has a verse that says kill people.
Wow. One reference to violence in thousands of pages of "love thy neighbor, turn your cheek, do not steal, be humble and modest".
You Tofu eating vegan college kids are always highlighting the bad things and refusing to acknowledge the good things with religion.
FreeThinker said:Wow you people have some SERIOIUS issues with religion.
I thought liberals were supposed to be the over tolerant ones.
What happened to respect for other ways of life? That doesn't apply to someone who's life revolves around faith?
About me proving what I say about religion, why? I'm not debating the exact dates of events. I am debating opinions about religion based on a lifetime of experiences.
Any idiot with access to the internet can type "religion benefits" into a search engine and pull up a mountain of websites for and against his or her opinon. There is no point in wasting 10 minutes of my life copying and pasting links from google that support my viewpoint. You would not read them anyway, so lets not play that game.
Here are my opinions, feel free to disagree (just don't try and debate me with google):
Some tree hugger earlier in the thread mentioned that Bin Laden would not have hated or attacked the US if it was not for religion, and to that person I say LOLOLOLOL.
Bin Laden hates us because in his opinon, we used islamic nations as pawns against the soviet empire (aka the evil empire). He hates the fact that we meddle in middle eastern affairs. He mentions this in EVERY one of his videos.
Bin Laden uses excerpts from the Koran to back up his viewpoint. Whoodeedoo. Does that mean the Koran is what made him hate the US? Of course not you idiot. The Cold War made him hate the US.
Respected muslim scolars everywhere have been saying for years that terrorists misuse the Koran for violence. But you surrender monkeys keep blaming religious texts for the problems in the world.
Listen here liberals: I know you want to rebel against your Christian parents for making you go to church every sunday. I know it was boring and you hated it. I know the wooden pews made your little asses hurt. But how about rising above all that.
Both the bible and the koran set forth basic rules for humans to peacefully co-exist with each other.
So page 1290381 of revelations or some crap has a verse that says kill people. Wow. One reference to violence in thousands of pages of "love thy neighbor, turn your cheek, do not steal, be humble and modest".
You Tofu eating vegan college kids are always highlighting the bad things and refusing to acknowledge the good things with religion.
Such intolerance from the self proclaimed party of peace never ceases to amaze me.
So bassically you have a problem with all Christians, because knowing the bible as truth is not limited to some individuals...and if they claim so, then they are not Christian.kal-el said:Even though many wars were started on it www.geocities.com/Athens/5195/victims.html, I really don't have a problem with Christianity, it's the people asserting to have "the truth", when in actuality, alls they have to offer is a mythological book full of errors without any external evidence whatsoever.
teenonfire4him77 said:So bassically you have a problem with all Christians,
because knowing the bible as truth is not limited to some individuals...and if they claim so, then they are not Christian.
An therfore you have a problem with all religions because all of them assert to 'have truth'...I am correct, yes?
kal-el said:Exactly.
Wow, I wasn't aware of this. I didn't know Jefferson re-wrote the bible without all of the miracles. Can you provide a link? Thanks.
Book Description
The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth
Introduction by Forrest Church
In 1794, President Thomas Jefferson set out to uncover the essence of true religion from the Gospels by extracting Jesus' message of absolute love and service from the annunciation, virgin birth, and even the resurrection. Completed in 1819, this little book is the result of Jefferson's efforts.
"Gives us a preaching Jesus of distinctly human dimensions, without miracles or resurrection [A] fascinating document, telling us a great deal about a great eighteenth century mind and its world."
-Charles S. Adams, Religious Studies Review
FreeThinker said:Wow you people have some SERIOIUS issues with religion. I thought liberals were supposed to be the over tolerant ones. What happened to respect for other ways of life? That doesn't apply to someone who's life revolves around faith?
FreeThinker said:Some tree hugger earlier in the thread mentioned that Bin Laden would not have hated or attacked the US if it was not for religion, and to that person I say LOLOLOLOL.
Bin Laden hates us because in his opinon, we used islamic nations as pawns against the soviet empire (aka the evil empire). He hates the fact that we meddle in middle eastern affairs. He mentions this in EVERY one of his videos.
Bin Laden uses excerpts from the Koran to back up his viewpoint. Whoodeedoo. Does that mean the Koran is what made him hate the US? Of course not you idiot. The Cold War made him hate the US
FreeThinker said:Respected muslim scolars everywhere have been saying for years that terrorists misuse the Koran for violence. But you surrender monkeys keep blaming religious texts for the problems in the world.
FreeThinker said:Listen here liberals: I know you want to rebel against your Christian parents for making you go to church every sunday. I know it was boring and you hated it. I know the wooden pews made your little asses hurt. But how about rising above all that.
FreeThinker said:Both the bible and the koran set forth basic rules for humans to peacefully co-exist with each other. So page 1290381 of revelations or some crap has a verse that says kill people. Wow. One reference to violence in thousands of pages of "love thy neighbor, turn your cheek, do not steal, be humble and modest". You Tofu eating vegan college kids are always highlighting the bad things and refusing to acknowledge the good things with religion.
FreeThinker said:Such intolerance from the self proclaimed party of peace never ceases to amaze me.
1. It actually doesnt promote it. It doesnt say anything about hating them, or restricting them or doing hate crimes against them. That is the mis-interpretation of it.hipsterdufus said:Give me some examples of peaceful co-existence in the Koran. I could easily list two pages of the opposite that I have right in front of me.
As for the Bible- it's now being used to:
1. promote discrimination against gay people
2. promote the teaching of creationism in schools
3. promote hatred of jews (read John 8:41-45)
4. promote capital punishment
I have no problem with Kal-el. As far as I know, kal-el has no problem with me (not major ones, anyway :lol: )teenonfire4him77 said:So bassically you have a problem with all Christians,
FreeThinker said:Rewind 200 years. You are a slave in America. You were born into bondage. Every day is spent working until your hands bleed for nothing more than food and water. You are less than a human being. When a man wants to, he can beat you. You are bred like an animal. Your children will be sold when they are old enough to work. You will never see your son after his 6th birthday.
So why live at all? Where is the hope?
Enter faith.
Respect religion.
The bible didn't originally say anything about homosexuality. The term didn't exist when any of it was written. The bible's been mistranslated, and twisted by men throughout the centuries to express the whims of their bigotry. I've done the arsenokoites/malekoites debates already on the board to buttress these claims.teenonfire4him77 said:1. It actually doesnt promote it. It doesnt say anything about hating them, or restricting them or doing hate crimes against them. That is the mis-interpretation of it.
It says homosexuality is an immoral act, and Jesus teachers to hate the sin not the sinner...but people don't do that, and that is what brings on discrimination. Not the bible saying to.
teenonfire4him77 said:because knowing the bible as truth is not limited to some individuals...and if they claim so, then they are not Christian.
shuamort said:Great, so you have no proof for your claims. Then we can just dismiss your claims as rhetoric and unfounded opinion. I can move on now. Your lame attempts at bunching people together as "from Christian parents" as "liberals" etc even leave less credence for your previous unfounded stances. Sorry, this isn't a debate, this is just a person whining.
FreeThinker said:It is distressing that the humor of my blanket statements about liberals being angry at their religious parents fell on deaf ears. You are so blinded by your hatred of faith that humor evades you.
Stace said:Dude: It wasn't funny. I certainly didn't see anyone else here laughing. Not at what you said, anyway.
FreeThinker said:Dude: I'm sorry my humor passed right over your blonde little head... Dude.
FreeThinker said:Respected muslim scolars everywhere have been saying for years that terrorists misuse the Koran for violence. But you surrender monkeys keep blaming religious texts for the problems in the world.
hipsterdufus said:What scholars? Where? Who?
I know you hate google - but if you would care to provide a link, I would be happy to debate. Maybe you could use Yahoo instead.
Stace said:FYI: I'm a brunette. I'm also a female, so "dudette" would have been more appropriate.
Now, see what happens when you assume things?
And, sorry, but like I said, I'm certainly not the only one that found it to be NOT funny. At all.
FreeThinker said:Don't lie. I can see you through your monitor. You madam, are blond.
And that part at the end where you put a period then a sentence fragment really added alot of impact to what you said. Seriously. I'm crying in real life right now. You are good at the internet.
Stace said:Really?
http://debatepolitics.com/showpost.php?p=170094&postcount=475
I got plenty more if you wanna see 'em.
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