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To agree and reiterate, the whole 'zombie-apocalypse' thing is a social meme expressing a nameless fear, to vent that fear through rational thought-experiments and humor.
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IMO the current popularity of the zombie-apocalypse meme is due to the lack of terrorist attacks...that we know Jihadists are actually out there, and we're subconsciously anxious about when/where/how they'll strike next. The zombie-apocalypse meme allows us to use centuries worth of films, stories, music and games as tools to vent.
Was the dude high or did he just have a superhuman pain threshold? My buddy has a cuz who is an LEO in Florida, they had a guy hopped up on PCP causing a domestic disturbance. They tried to subdue him with batons, broke his nose and ribs, that didn't work he got in and took two cops out of the fight so they tased him, that didn't work so they had to shoot. I think it was something like 40 hot load .357 rounds into the bad guy's chest alone. He wasn't the only casualty but fortunately the only fatality.most of this is somewhat true. but some is not. I'd rather have more rounds and not need them........
I reviewed a shooting out of Kalifornia
1) one bad guy armed with an old 32 caliber browning pistol-the one that was popular with French and other continental European police Departments
4) LAPD or County Sheriffs. three armed with Smith and wesson 357s with 125 grain JHP-the really good stuff-the ammo Evan Marshall's studies proved was the most effective pistol stopping round on earth
PO PO #4-870 shotgun triple ought buck
bad guy starts firing at Cop #1-cop #1 takes a minor hit to the leg-goes down but takes a kneeling position and fires all 6 shots at the mope-at least 4 are solid chest hits.
bad guy reloads and engages cop #2-hits the cop twice in the chest-body armor stops the weak 32 but the third round clips the deputy in the shoulder-that cop fires simultaneously-at least two center of mass hits. Cop #1 has speed loaders he cranks a few more rounds at the mope-hits him 3-4 times
Mope reloads and starts moving at an angle towards the guy with the leg wound. cop #3 in a flanking position blasts the mope with two rounds of buck shot-the coroner couldn't figure out how many hit but it was a lot
cop #4 breaks the mope's pelvis figuring (wrongly) the mope is wearing body armor. mope reloads and gets off 6 rounds at that cop
that cop shoots him three more times-the mope drops his now empty gun and says
I give up, I've had enough
he dies en route to the hospital
he took over a DOZEN lethal hits from really good shots using really heavy stuff
he got off over 18 rounds
Good news for you, as I'll address further, most of what you want is already law to and extent. Though that can be refined a bit. I'll explain.The gun control issue is one of the more complicated issues. With something like SSM or even tax issues you can pretty quickly come up with an opinion even if you are not well educated on the matter. Gun issues are a bit more complicated. Gun experts and LEO in general seem to be more gun-rights so that's where I lean. My POV is that rather than restricting what types of guns people can have we should restrict what kinds of people can have guns.
People who DEFINITELY should have limited or no access to firearms:
Anyone with a felony conviction or dishonorable discharge is already disbarred legally from owning a weapon. To refine that I would rather that the felonies be only those that are violent or have violence as a component(black market felonies) and I would remove dishonorable discharge, they are both catchalls that overgeneralize the removal of rights. If they were shortened in scope to eliminate non-violent offenses and had a period certain opportunity for the restitution of rights for good behavior it would be perfect law.1. Convicted violent felons, or at the very least felons convicted of an aggravated violent felony
Anyone involuntarily committed to an institution of mental health is disqualified from owning a gun, I like your idea of only limiting mental disorders to those of violence or potential psychotic breaks, makes more sense than someone within the fully functioning autism spectrum being disbarred "just because". I think upon conditions of medicating the problem within control some people could have their rights restored. But I am not willing to go as far as mandatory testing for everyone who wants a gun, it's a little too far on the prior restraint side for my tastes. Rights do have some responsibilities and risks.2. The mentally insane. Of course it depends on the disorder, someone with a Cluster B personality disorder (this includes psychopathy, which is the primary reason I chose Cluster B: psychopaths should have NO access to firearms as they are incapable of responsible or non-criminal use of weapons); it also includes borderline personality disorder (excessively emotional), histrionic personality disorder (excessive pathological attention-seeking), and narcissistic (arrogance with a touch of total lack of empathy)). Paranoid schizophrenics should have LIMITED access to guns because although unlike Cluster B they are not inclined towards violence, they cannot differentiate between reality and imagination and may hallucinate a burglar and end up shooting their neighbor. While registering to get a gun (something I believe could be necessary)* people should be given a psychological exam to see if they are mentally fit to own a gun.
No argument to your first group.........but you have to prove it, street gangs would be the most preferable group, they are the most random in application of violence. You have to go out of your way to be on a Mafia hit list, and cartels are a combination of being in the wrong place at the wrong time OR being in their way. Street gangs will shoot at the wrong address and call it a write off.People who reasonably could have access to firearms restricted:
1. People with ties to organized crime groups like Mexican drug cartels or Mafia
2. Non-citizens. Illegals should be given no access to weaponry.
Okay, no problem with restricting WMDs, they are indifferent weapons, area effective, and you don't aim them as much as disperse them. Explosives have a purpose, and a semi-safe handling, they shouldn't be outright legal but permittable, I have no problem with an advance license requirement for ownership and detonation. "Sniper" rifles are really just long guns, there is nothing about them that makes them deadlier than a hunting rifle, most large bore hunting rifles are accurate from +705yds to a little over a mile, with the longest shot ever placed on target at about 2mi. by a Canadian sniper using a Barrett .50cal. but just about any long barreled hunting rifle will shoot up to about a mile and on target if you know how to adjust for windage and loss of velocity.If I were to restrict weapons I would say off-the-bat no WMDs (nukes, bio weapons, chem weapons), no explosives. If I had to restrict any firearm in particular it would be a sniper rifle. Reason being is that's past the reasonable point for self-defense - a 14.5×114mm cartrige could be fired over a mile away. I don't think people should be given access to guns like that in the highly improbable case of a revolution against the government. At that point the law is void anyway.
Criminal background check, IF there is a further question by civilians(such as the gun range owner in Colorado) who notice behaviors that are a little off allow for them to sign a sworn affadavit, legally binding, that allows for further questioning/testing.*I understand that criminals could find ways to get arms without registering, which makes me a bit iffy on registration. I think registration should be simple: a psychology test, background check, etc. It should be ABSOLUTELY FREE to register although a minor tax on automatics might be a little useful. Since registering would be free it would be a FELONY to get unregistered weapons in the United States of MadLib.
Dude, more of those cartel guns are untraceable. Most probably Venezuelan, Columbian, and other S.American surplus. The traceable stuff comes from the U.S. and that's a matter of a closer border, but if you want to stick with the Fast and Furious talking points be my guest.Yes, they are illegal in Mexico so they get them from the US where they are legal and they can buy them through our inadequate gun control laws here.
They have been getting them from the US since our ban here ended, that is why a sting operation was undertaken.
Zombies -> semi-auto rifle FTW, better skull penetration that most shotgun loads. :mrgreen:
For those that are looking at us crosseyed and backing away slowly, we don't necessarily mean literal zombies. "Zombies" is a metaphor for "some unexpected and improbable but highly disasterous Black Swan Event."
Damn it man.
Did you really have to go an explain it? I actually preferred it when people looked at me funny and backed away.
I heard somewhere that a permitted citizen in Oregon can carry concealed onto any school grounds and into police stations, libraries and post offices. Is this true?If you live in or near Portland, some people from outside of Oregon are going to look at you funny and back away anyways. Portland is definitly near the top of any ranking of "weird" for cities.
I heard somewhere that a permitted citizen in Oregon can carry concealed onto any school grounds and into police stations, libraries and post offices. Is this true?
I heard somewhere that a permitted citizen in Oregon can carry concealed onto any school grounds and into police stations, libraries and post offices. Is this true?
Was the dude high or did he just have a superhuman pain threshold? My buddy has a cuz who is an LEO in Florida, they had a guy hopped up on PCP causing a domestic disturbance. They tried to subdue him with batons, broke his nose and ribs, that didn't work he got in and took two cops out of the fight so they tased him, that didn't work so they had to shoot. I think it was something like 40 hot load .357 rounds into the bad guy's chest alone. He wasn't the only casualty but fortunately the only fatality.
Tighter Background Checks Associated With Fewer Firearm Deaths
"In the wake of one of the largest mass shootings in the history of the United States, new research from the University of Alabama at Birmingham reveals that in general, states that require more comprehensive background checks before gun purchases also have fewer homicide and suicide deaths by firearm."
Tighter background checks associated with fewer firearm deaths
That was my first thought. I go bigger caliber because of the effects of that type of drug, smaller rounds just piss them off.Cranking on PCP
7-8 357's in the chest
a couple dozen buckshot balls
another couple 357 in the groin pelvic area
That was my first thought. I go bigger caliber because of the effects of that type of drug, smaller rounds just piss them off.
tell me Catawba-what really bothers you? gun ownership or the politics of avid gun owners and more importantly, the lobbying efforts of shooting sport organizations
How about we turn this around, and someone explain to me why I should NOT own an assault rifle?
I have no problem with a law abiding citizen owning an assault rifle. To me the issue is how to improve our gun laws, specifically the background check requirements, to prevent the insane and drug cartels from being able to purchase them in this country to kill innocent people. If we can not figure out a way to do that than I would be for a ban on the types of weapons most used by those groups.
The types of weapons most commonly used by criminals are:
Cheap small autopistols, specifically .22, .380 and 9mm...
and in a distant second, shotguns, usually 12 gauge pump with a folding stock or no stock/pistol grip to conceal under a long coat or other covering item.
"Assault" rifles barely register as a blip on the radar, in the US, as far as criminal use.
Would you like for me to post more information about the guns of choice by the Mexican drug cartel that they have been purchasing in the US since the end of the national gun ban here?
If you would like, I could also post how the background checks for gun buyers don't prevent either the insane or criminals from making their gun purchases in the US.
Mexico's drug cartel violence is symptomatic of Mexico's problems, chiefly:
1. An ineffective and corrupt government and legal system.
2. Poverty and a DRASTIC wealth inequality.
3. The wealth and conflict created by the drug trade profits.
Cartel guns are a symptom, not a cause.
If responsible gun owners want to protect their ability to continue purchasing them, then they better help come up with a way to keep them out of the hands of criminals and the insane, or they will likely find certain weapons banned from purchase again.
Current trends suggest that this prediction is unlikely to be correct anytime in the near future.
If responsible gun owners want to protect their ability to continue purchasing them, then they better help come up with a way to keep them out of the hands of criminals and the insane, or they will likely find certain weapons banned from purchase again.
Or, another way of putting it is: that since so many anti's misuse and misconstrue these terms, either for their own benefit or out of sheer ignorance, we like to make sure the discussion is specific enough that everyone knows EXACTLY what we're talking about.
It is called "clear communication".
If someone stamped the word "Assault" on this....
....an anti-gunner would try to ban it.
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