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Why won't anyone else take the lead??

I am not sure that "we" here in America would be speaking German. It might have taken 20 years, but we would have F.U.C.K.E.D. them dirty Krouts up. :lol:
 
We're the only superpower left, until China takes us out.
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Nobody else has the ability or will to do it...

For all the things that we do badly, we do much more that is good.
Deal with it America Haters!
 
......."So by being proactive in global conflicts, we keep ourselves relatively safe and keep our enemies far away, fighting our military, rather than our citizens. And that is the only role our government should have in our country, is the defense of the citizen, and if that means keeping wars from spreading over here, then thats their job.".............

I guess you just answered your question that started this link.
 
...and how exactly does that answer the question that started this link? It sounds like there is an implication there, and I was hoping that you might clarify.

Also...would you please provide the source of that quote so that we know of whom you are talking to/about? Thanks.
 
......."I think it supports my question that America should not be shouldering the burden of wars, while the other countries sit back and criticize us, while adding nothing constructive to the effort."..........

Why? the US spend in military budget more than the rest of the planet in aggregate. There must be a reason for that! The US serves its own interest, while pretending protecting human rights.
"Nations don't have friends, just interests" Charles De Gaulle
 
I will repeat for you Francaisforever...

...and how exactly does that answer the question that started this link? It sounds like there is an implication there, and I was hoping that you might clarify.

Also...would you please provide the source of that quote so that we know of whom you are talking to/about? Thanks.

AND...The US serves its own interest, while at the same time protecting human rights. You made a typo, so I fixed it for you. ;)
 
By francaisforever
"Nations don't have friends, just interests" Charles De Gaulle
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So you understand and support America's actions! That is great! :)
 
I personally don't care. I think that the problem is so complicated and over our heads that it is useless to try to make sens to what few politicians have started long ago. I just wish that the US gvt and a certain part of the ultra right wing especially the "tough guys in suits who never fire a shot" of the Fox news channel stop whinning about the inaction of "old Europe". It is amusing to hear the Fox news oficionados comparing the Muslim threat to the Nazi. After all where was the US in 1939.....and in 1914 for that matter? Does a nation that spend $500B a year in military budget needs a moral endorsement that bad to go after a third world country? The fact of the matter is that the neocons wanted to go to war with Saddam as early as 1992 and according to Rumsfeld the US was going into Iraq regardless of the British decision. So why doesn't anyone else take the lead? Because every other nations have different interests when it comes to the Muslim extremist threat or the Iraq war.
 
Francaisforever said:
So why doesn't anyone else take the lead? Because every other nations have different interests when it comes to the Muslim extremist threat or the Iraq war.
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The Iraq war aside, you are saying that varying degrees of different interests have always been more important than a shared common ground in dealing with Muslim extremism?

I would be astounded! Statistical probability alone argues against this outcome.
 
Sorry francaisforever, if we don't come running the very second that you guys start something that you can't handle! :lol:

Such ingratitude after we bailed out your sorry appeasing little squabbling Europe! Slap my grandads in the face while your at it. They were both shot down over Nazi Germany and taken prisoner.

When push came to shove we saved your asses and that is the simple truth kiddo.

Where you in 1775 and 1812, oh yeah, trying to squash Independence and then conquer us... ;)
 
Billo wins, you lose...

Tashah said:
Why do you always feel the necessity to hijack threads with anti-American rants?
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Cause he's very good at it and it works.

Now I guess one could call Billo a troll, a flamer, a baiter, as one could call me. Though I think I get by with more bullshit than him cause I can always fall back and claim joke, which is normally true, along with a gazillion other tricks and tactics I employ. But I like to think that we've taken "troll" to the next level. Turn a frowned upon tactic into a very sucessful debate tool. Billo throws the right wing Nazi's off thier game. He exposes their weak rhetoric repeating selves. Instead of folks getting thier panties in a wad and losing to Billo, they should pay attention, hone and polish thier arguments, that is if they really do beleive and understand what they are repeating. I've tried to teach and show how to deal with Billo, and he can be dealt with, but not by a ignorant or weak debator. But it don't take. By now I just have extended Billo proffesional courtesy as homeage to his debate skills. He's just too fun to watch as he jerks many's chains and leads them down a trail of woe by thier nose ring. Of all of you, Billo was by far the hardest for me to peg, took me a very long time, way longer than anyone else. cnredd did a nice job in one Basement thread. Links, examples, numbers, you name it, my XO laid it all out. Did anyone pay head? Hell no. Easier to fight than think. Very hard to corner Billo. His posts, to me, have glaring weak points that I'm amazed so many folks can't see. With Billo you have to on top of your game, don't let him slip punches, stay with the points, ask simple yes/no questions. I'm done teaching how to corner Billo. You gotta figure it for yourselves. And after all this time it's only 3 times that he has really let a chink in the armour show. But I saw it and now I know. I gave the skinny and was ignored, now I watch as he whups. Take this thread, you got on him and he said he'll post here no more. Well, he's bright, but not teacher bright. But brighter than most of you. He's not so clever at pushing the line or finding ways around things. There's always a way...

Caution, straight to The Sewer and content is yaaaaaaa and don't whine cuase you been warned.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/471622-post1.html

know what I mean?

Gotta ask there, Israeli chick, Billo getting under your skin?

Oh yea, Gunny, as usual, owns this thread, like all like this, which I love, cause I don't have to deal with it and get on with importent work of abuse and moving and stacking blocks.

All hail Gunny. Did you read his first post in this thread? Why it was sim zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz oh, sorry, nodded off there, but damn the big ape is dead solid.

Notice Billo ever handing Gunny his azz? I agree with Gunny more than anyone at this site.

Sorry Gunny.
 
It is all about playing the game in the first place teacher...as you so deftly note. ;)

Once it is understood that there is a game, a wise person will not flounder about stepping in crap. Gunny does have a good head on his shoulders. Billo lives in HB...nuff said...

Missed you around here teacher...good to have you back. The devious nature of DP fell off a bit during the hiatus...
 
Body, you are funny. Repeating easy propaganda that you heard on tv doesn't make you a thinker. Just a parrot!
 
What I am saying is that every country has to fight terrorism with its own means and with regard to its specific situation. The US can go to war with the Muslims and invade a country like Iraq, because there is only 7M Muslims in the US and because of its geographical situation. There are also other factors such as money, foreign policy making, economical, historical and sociological that have different degrees of importance in helping to push the US into this wholle Iraq ordeal. Now the neocons wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11 and you could easily have made the case that Iran was a much more potent Muslim terrorist threat, so is the Iraq invasion a war against Muslim terrorism? Or is the Iraq invasion the best way to fight Muslim terrorism? This is far to be evident in my opinion and probably what many foreign governement thought.
 
Really...

Francaisforever said:
The US can go to war with the Muslims
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Are we going to war with Muslims, or a group of people that publically, proudly, often say they call for the death of America and want to make YOUR YOUR YOUR Mother, Seester and Daughters wear black tents in the mother fu*king noon day sun, sport?

Let's keep this simple and broken down to brass tacks, shall we?

You new here?

I'm teacher, how do?

If I got the gist of you post wrong, my bad. Lemme know.

If not, welcome to the fray.

And if that is so, visit The Basement. Where I read to the blind as I make free icecream for the disenfranchised blacks that didn't get to vote for Gore in Palm Beach.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Giddyup.
 
francaisforever
Body, you are funny. Repeating easy propaganda that you heard on tv doesn't make you a thinker. Just a parrot!
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:lol:

Look...

If the extent of your capabilities is to make incorrect conclusions based off of ignorantly derived assuptions that lead to ridiculously feeble insults, then I will not spend any more time expecting that you are able to actually think.

There are a lot of smart people in the world. I am sure that you are a really smart guy, really :lol: but it is becoming fast obvious that you just are not an Intelligent one. It is a difference that you will undoubtedly not be able to understand...hence the dilemma.

1. You won't answer the question that I posed to you
2. You think that the USA does not serve its own interest, while at the same time protecting human rights...One word: Somolia. There are others of course...
3. You are ungrateful for the USA's help in helping save France (that one alone is pretty damn childish :shock: )
4. You certainly seem to shed no concern over my grandfathers that almost died being inhumanly treated in Nazi prison camps after trying to help Europe while at the same time you hypocritically condemn the USA for not caring about human rights. ;)
5. Rather than discuss anything in an adult manner, you hide under the "Americans are ignorant" falsehood, not concerning yourself with any fact
6. I read. We (My family) study. We learn. We Interpret. We don't even have a TV. Waste of time, much like you are turning out to be...
7. I am curious, what TV station preaches propoganda about WWII at this point in time? :lol: THAT is your case...

Thus far, you are incredibly boring and childish. You have this one opportunity to address these points before I discard you into the heap of boring individuals that simply are unable to understand...

It is up to you with regards as to whether you relish in the sweet aftermath of glory or frolic about in the fields of gold ever seeking that which you willingly choose to make unattainable...
 
teacher said:
Are we going to war with Muslims, or a group of people that publically, proudly, often say they call for the death of America and want to make YOUR YOUR YOUR Mother, Seester and Daughters wear black tents in the mother fu*king noon day sun, sport?
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I like to also answer this. First I don't think you went to war against Muslims. But thanks the bad preparation and explaning of the Iraq war and the following messed up situation in Iraq, it's been easy for muslims that dislike USA to spin things that they.

Also if you would like to stop people wearing "black telts" Iraq was not the best choice of the place to atack. That Saddam was a seculare dictator and he only starting to use the religion card then his situation starting to get more desperate after the first gulf war with the sanctions and the tanked economy. But Iraq was even then still pretty seculare compared to other ME countries. You have one thing right that Saddam was pissed of at USA, but he couldn't do much after first getting kicked in the *** by Iran then USA and on top of all got his country put under sanctions. Also the reason he was pissed of at USA wasn't some religius thing instead it had to do much more with the first gulf war.
 
Hey francaisforever!

Where was France in 1775? ;)
 
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Bergslagstroll said:
Also if you would like to stop people wearing "black telts" Iraq was not the best choice of the place to atack.
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here's how this works, at least when dealing with me, teacher, of the collossal brain.

You say Iraq was not the best choice to start in in.

I say the moon is made of green cheese.

Now where are we? I know you think Iraq wasn't top of your list, you know I'm a moron.

But there is an easy fix. Explain "why" Iraq was not the best choice. Then I'll drop by, chew that up and give a half dozen or so reasons why I think it was and you get your chance to chew on me.

I've covered this before, in fact my first post on this site was "free the women". But I'm willing to go over this again as the new kids need to brought up to speed.
 
You see you answer to your own question......"Why won't anyone else take the lead??".......Because the other countries try to mind their own business.
 
I think other countries do not want to attack terrorists and muslim countries because they know it will breed more hatred and lead to more terrorism and terrorists which again will lead to more terrorist attacks, which we dont want, so we leave the "war to create more terrorists" to the US so they alone can receive the massive amounts of new terrorists they have created.:doh
 
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