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Why the Supreme Court should find for the Judges power, and Birthright Citizenship.

The issue I raised was the Democrat strategy of of filing lawsuits to obstruct every action of the Trump administration. They are throwing everything against the judicial wall to see what sticks. The number of political lawsuits filed by Democrats in their campaign to overturn the last election exceeds the combined number filed in the last several administrations.

Of course you want to substitute a strawman Democrat talking point of Republican judges voting against Trump to avoid consideration of the Democracts toxic abuse of the judiciary.
 
The issue I raised was the Democrat strategy of of filing lawsuits to obstruct every action of the Trump administration.
And you were answered. Trump keeps violating the constitution which is why he keeps having his ass handed to him in court by both Republican and Democrat judges.
They are throwing everything against the judicial wall to see what sticks. The number of political lawsuits filed by Democrats in their campaign to overturn the last election exceeds the combined number filed in the last several administrations.
Because Trump keeps violating the constitution. It’s why he keeps losing in court.
Of course you want to substitute a strawman Democrat talking point of Republican judges voting against Trump to avoid consideration of the Democracts toxic abuse of the judiciary.
It refutes your canard about “political lawsuits”.
 
And you were answered. Trump keeps violating the constitution which is why he keeps having his ass handed to him in court by both Republican and Democrat judges.

Because Trump keeps violating the constitution. It’s why he keeps losing in court.

It refutes your canard about “political lawsuits”.
Again all you can offer is blame Trump for the Democrat wave of political lawsuits. Judges can only rule on cases brought before them. Democrats have brought an unprecedented number of lawsuits bypassing the Constitutional authority given to Congress. Bleating "Constitution" in defense of promoting the unelected judiciary to a super legislature ignores the toxic undermining of the Republic. That's nothing but perverting the judiciary into a political weapon.
 
Again all you can offer is blame Trump for the Democrat wave of political lawsuits.
Refuted this already.
Judges can only rule on cases brought before them.
Right.
Democrats have brought an unprecedented number of lawsuits bypassing the Constitutional authority given to Congress.
Refuted this already.
Bleating "Constitution" in defense of promoting the unelected judiciary to a super legislature ignores the toxic undermining of the Republic.
When you lie like this, nobody takes you seriously.
That's nothing but perverting the judiciary into a political weapon.
Refuted this already.
 
The issue I raised was the Democrat strategy of of filing lawsuits to obstruct every action of the Trump administration. They are throwing everything against the judicial wall to see what sticks. The number of political lawsuits filed by Democrats in their campaign to overturn the last election exceeds the combined number filed in the last several administrations.

Of course you want to substitute a strawman Democrat talking point of Republican judges voting against Trump to avoid consideration of the Democracts toxic abuse of the judiciary.

The problem is that your premise is flawed.

It would be like asking someone to discuss the Earth being flat only on the point it looks flat from where you are. Your debate premise ignores all the other evidence.

Stomping your foot and demanding that we ignore all the other evidence and only discuss it from that single point is just silly.

If the lawsuits are in face frivolous then Judges will say so. If they do not say so the Appeals process demonstrates that it is frivolous. Your point of there are a lot and it is totally a conspiracy ignores all the other factual information.

If it was purely a Democratic plot then the Republican Judges would reject the frivolous wouldn’t they? But since they are not and in the orders quote the precedent setting cases to explain why they found against Trump.

So if the evidence does not support a premise, the premise is flawed, not the evidence.

It would be as if you were charged with Murder because you hated a guy. The Cops demand that you prove you didn’t hate the guy. You keep explaining that you were in North Carolina when the guy was Murdered in Arizona. They insist you hated him and you show evidence you were 2,000 miles away for the entire week that the crime took place.
 
The problem is that your premise is flawed.
Explain the so-called flaw in pointing out the fact the Democrats and front groups are flooding District courts with an unprecedented number of political lawsuits. Your refusal to deal with fact is a flaw in your argument.
It would be like asking someone to discuss the Earth being flat only on the point it looks flat from where you are. Your debate premise ignores all the other evidence.
The number of lawsuits is a key indicator of the Democrat strategy. The flat earthers in the discussion are the ones screaming "Constitution" while promoting the anti Constitutional tactic.

Stomping your foot and demanding that we ignore all the other evidence and only discuss it from that single point is just silly.
Your refusal to recognize the Democrat tactic of political warfare through mass lawsuits is just silly.
If the lawsuits are in face frivolous then Judges will say so. If they do not say so the Appeals process demonstrates that it is frivolous. Your point of there are a lot and it is totally a conspiracy ignores all the other factual information.
Democrats are pursuing a variant of the Acorn strategy of flooding Secretary of State offices with bogus voter registration applications knowing the ones that get through will be almost impossible to remove just like legal precedent.

My point is recognizing the flood of political lawsuits is a deliberate strategy to transfer power from the Executive and Congtessional branches to the judiciary.
Is that a conspiracy? You betcha. Radical Democrats don't take kindly to losing elections.

If it was purely a Democratic plot then the Republican Judges would reject the frivolous wouldn’t they? But since they are not and in the orders quote the precedent setting cases to explain why they found against Trump.

So if the evidence does not support a premise, the premise is flawed, not the evidence.
Nowhere is that more true than the flawed premise Democrats have the slightest interest in Constitutional governance with this mass filing of lawsuits.
It would be as if you were charged with Murder because you hated a guy. The Cops demand that you prove you didn’t hate the guy. You keep explaining that you were in North Carolina when the guy was Murdered in Arizona. They insist you hated him and you show evidence you were 2,000 miles away for the entire week that the crime took place.
Claiming Democrats aren't animated by incandescent hatred for President Trump is like claiming the Earth is flat.
 
Explain the so-called flaw in pointing out the fact the Democrats and front groups are flooding District courts with an unprecedented number of political lawsuits. Your refusal to deal with fact is a flaw in your argument.

The number of lawsuits is a key indicator of the Democrat strategy. The flat earthers in the discussion are the ones screaming "Constitution" while promoting the anti Constitutional tactic.


Your refusal to recognize the Democrat tactic of political warfare through mass lawsuits is just silly.

Democrats are pursuing a variant of the Acorn strategy of flooding Secretary of State offices with bogus voter registration applications knowing the ones that get through will be almost impossible to remove just like legal precedent.

My point is recognizing the flood of political lawsuits is a deliberate strategy to transfer power from the Executive and Congtessional branches to the judiciary.
Is that a conspiracy? You betcha. Radical Democrats don't take kindly to losing elections.


Nowhere is that more true than the flawed premise Democrats have the slightest interest in Constitutional governance with this mass filing of lawsuits.

Claiming Democrats aren't animated by incandescent hatred for President Trump is like claiming the Earth is flat.

The problem is that Trump’s orders and policies are illegal. He isn’t just doing one. If he was a single lawsuit would suffice. However he is doing dozens, hundreds.

This is where Court Precedents come in. The question for this thread, Birthright Citizenship. It has been settled law for a century and a half. If you want to challenge it then there are a couple ways to do so. You could have Congress pass a law defining Citizenship. We didn’t do that did we? You could start an Amendment defining it your way. Nope. Didn’t go that route either. What we did was Trump using an Executive Order and instructing the Federal Government to operate that way now.

That is blatantly illegal. It is Unconstitutional.

This is like a guy complaining that the cops are giving him a speeding ticket every day. He is speeding every day. He is getting caught breaking the law. It isn’t a conspiracy by the Cops to harass him. He is doing it.

Trump is doing the same thing. Firing people he has no authority to fire. The Courts get the motion and check the law. Sure enough, Trump can’t fire them by law. Oh it is a Democrat Conspiracy.

Stop speeding. Drive at the speed limit. Obey the law. Isn’t that a battle cry of the RW? Obey the law?

The cases defining this sort of thing are well known. They are called Precedents. The case of Heller defines what restrictions can be placed on the Second Amendment as an example. Seems simple enough. Trump is ignoring those Precedents. Trump is willingly and knowingly doing what is illegal.

Like the Speeder in our example. It isn’t the Cops fault the guy is getting tickets. It isn’t a conspiracy. He has a lead foot and is unwilling or unable to drive within the rules. If Trump was obeying the laws I might agree. But he isn’t, and we know that because the District Courts, Appeals Courts, and Supreme Court keep upholding the decisions against him.

It’s the old saying. If you meet an Asshole first thing in the morning. He is the Asshole. If you meet nothing but Assholes, it might be you who is the Asshole.
 
Explain the so-called flaw in pointing out the fact the Democrats and front groups are flooding District courts with an unprecedented number of political lawsuits. Your refusal to deal with fact is a flaw in your argument.

The number of lawsuits is a key indicator of the Democrat strategy. The flat earthers in the discussion are the ones screaming "Constitution" while promoting the anti Constitutional tactic.


Your refusal to recognize the Democrat tactic of political warfare through mass lawsuits is just silly.

Democrats are pursuing a variant of the Acorn strategy of flooding Secretary of State offices with bogus voter registration applications knowing the ones that get through will be almost impossible to remove just like legal precedent.

My point is recognizing the flood of political lawsuits is a deliberate strategy to transfer power from the Executive and Congtessional branches to the judiciary.
Is that a conspiracy? You betcha. Radical Democrats don't take kindly to losing elections.


Nowhere is that more true than the flawed premise Democrats have the slightest interest in Constitutional governance with this mass filing of lawsuits.

Claiming Democrats aren't animated by incandescent hatred for President Trump is like claiming the Earth is flat.
When you pretend this hasn’t been answered a hundred times, do you not realize how silly you look?
 
The problem is that your premise is flawed.
I have noticed that the Socialist Demon Rats believe that

1- The Communist Manifesto is the Law of the Land
2- The Democratic Party Platform is the Law of the Land
3- whatever bullcrap is declared by left wing "judges" is the Law of the Land
4- whatever bullcrap was taught by left wing activists in government schools is the gospel truth
5- They also believe that any "LAW" which aggrandizes and/or concentrates power in the central government and against the individuals and the states is a good thing

Since their premise is baseless they concluded that:

"The problem is that Trump’s orders and policies are illegal."

The Socialist Demon Rats must be re-educated
 
Explain the so-called flaw in pointing out the fact the Democrats and front groups are flooding District courts with an unprecedented number of political lawsuits. Your refusal to deal with fact is a flaw in your argument.

The number of lawsuits is a key indicator of the Democrat strategy. The flat earthers in the discussion are the ones screaming "Constitution" while promoting the anti Constitutional tactic.


Your refusal to recognize the Democrat tactic of political warfare through mass lawsuits is just silly.

Democrats are pursuing a variant of the Acorn strategy of flooding Secretary of State offices with bogus voter registration applications knowing the ones that get through will be almost impossible to remove just like legal precedent.

My point is recognizing the flood of political lawsuits is a deliberate strategy to transfer power from the Executive and Congtessional branches to the judiciary.
Is that a conspiracy? You betcha. Radical Democrats don't take kindly to losing elections.


Nowhere is that more true than the flawed premise Democrats have the slightest interest in Constitutional governance with this mass filing of lawsuits.

Claiming Democrats aren't animated by incandescent hatred for President Trump is like claiming the Earth is flat.

The problem is that Trump’s orders and policies are illegal. He isn’t just doing one. If he was a single lawsuit would suffice. However he is doing dozens, hundreds.

This is where Court Precedents come in. The question for this thread, Birthright Citizenship. It has been settled law for a century and a half. If you want to challenge it then there are a couple ways to do so. You could have Congress pass a law defining Citizenship. We didn’t do that did we? You could start an Amendment defining it your way. Nope. Didn’t go that route either. What we did was Trump using an Executive Order and instructing the Federal Government to operate that way now.

That is blatantly illegal. It is Unconstitutional.

This is like a guy complaining that the cops are giving him a speeding ticket every day. He is speeding every day. He is getting caught breaking the law. It isn’t a conspiracy by the Cops to harass him. He is doing it.

Trump is doing the same thing. Firing people he has no authority to fire. The Courts get the motion and check the law. Sure enough, Trump can’t fire them by law. Oh it is a Democrat Conspiracy.

Stop speeding. Drive at the speed limit. Obey the law. Isn’t that a battle cry of the RW? Obey the law?
 
I have noticed that the Socialist Demon Rats believe that

1- The Communist Manifesto is the Law of the Land
2- The Democratic Party Platform is the Law of the Land
3- whatever bullcrap is declared by left wing "judges" is the Law of the Land
4- whatever bullcrap was taught by left wing activists in government schools is the gospel truth
5- They also believe that any "LAW" which aggrandizes and/or concentrates power in the central government and against the individuals and the states is a good thing

Since their premise is baseless they concluded that:

"The problem is that Trump’s orders and policies are illegal."

The Socialist Demon Rats must be re-educated

I do so enjoy this. You can’t point to precedent that supports your arguments. It’s just that Trump can do whatever he wants.

Biden was wrong in trying to shift money to pay off Student Loans. The Courts properly said that Congress allocated the money and the President could not redirect it. Great. Followed precedent and the law.

Trump does the same sort of thing and the Liberals are awful for opposing him. The Courts are corrupt because Trump is great. The law is what he says it is. Precedents don’t matter.
 
The problem is that Trump’s orders and policies are illegal. He isn’t just doing one. If he was a single lawsuit would suffice. However he is doing dozens, hundreds.

This is where Court Precedents come in. The question for this thread, Birthright Citizenship. It has been settled law for a century and a half. If you want to challenge it then there are a couple ways to do so. You could have Congress pass a law defining Citizenship. We didn’t do that did we? You could start an Amendment defining it your way. Nope. Didn’t go that route either. What we did was Trump using an Executive Order and instructing the Federal Government to operate that way now.
You rant about court precedents being the law of the land then suggest the appropriate way to overcome these precedents is through Congress or Amendment. The same is true of executive actions Democrats find distasteful such as the Presidential finding of an invasion of illegal aliens. Radical Democrats didn't go to Congress for legislation they rushed to have a District court judge second guess the Bad Orange Man according to their whim. This process of dragging every Trump administration action into District court is being repeated hundreds of times in an effort to corrupt the seperation of powers.
That is blatantly illegal. It is Unconstitutional.

This is like a guy complaining that the cops are giving him a speeding ticket every day. He is speeding every day. He is getting caught breaking the law. It isn’t a conspiracy by the Cops to harass him. He is doing it.
Speeding violations don't require the selective "interpretation" of an activist judge they can be objectively measured. The analogy falls apart due to the Democrat strategy of filing hundreds of lawsuits contesting every decision of the Trump administration in court instead of in Congress. Trump isn't getting caught breaking the law. He's being second guessed by judges empowered by an unprecedented wave of Democrat lawsuits. It's equivalent to an organized group following a designated villian insisting on traffic citations.
Trump is doing the same thing. Firing people he has no authority to fire. The Courts get the motion and check the law. Sure enough, Trump can’t fire them by law. Oh it is a Democrat Conspiracy.

Stop speeding. Drive at the speed limit. Obey the law. Isn’t that a battle cry of the RW? Obey the law?
The Democrat strategy of rule by lawsuit isn't the rule of law. It's feeding into activist judges anxious to imprint their their "interpretations" on every political issue. So anxious was the DC district judge Boasberg to attack the Bad Orange Man he deliberately ignored the plaintiffs lack of standing to issue his imperial decrees.
 
You rant about court precedents being the law of the land then suggest the appropriate way to overcome these precedents is through Congress or Amendment. The same is true of executive actions Democrats find distasteful such as the Presidential finding of an invasion of illegal aliens. Radical Democrats didn't go to Congress for legislation they rushed to have a District court judge second guess the Bad Orange Man according to their whim. This process of dragging every Trump administration action into District court is being repeated hundreds of times in an effort to corrupt the seperation of powers.

Speeding violations don't require the selective "interpretation" of an activist judge they can be objectively measured. The analogy falls apart due to the Democrat strategy of filing hundreds of lawsuits contesting every decision of the Trump administration in court instead of in Congress. Trump isn't getting caught breaking the law. He's being second guessed by judges empowered by an unprecedented wave of Democrat lawsuits. It's equivalent to an organized group following a designated villian insisting on traffic citations.

The Democrat strategy of rule by lawsuit isn't the rule of law. It's feeding into activist judges anxious to imprint their their "interpretations" on every political issue. So anxious was the DC district judge Boasberg to attack the Bad Orange Man he deliberately ignored the plaintiffs lack of standing to issue his imperial decrees.

You see you are almost thinking. Let’s continue shall we? It takes more than the President announcing something. Those pesky laws we have. And that declaration must meet various legal standards. If it doesn’t, and so far every single Judge it has gone before says that Trump hasn’t met those standards.

It’s Government. You have to make sure all the blocks are checked and the I’s are dotted. Sort of like a Deduction on your Taxes. You are entitled to the Deduction but not just because you say so. You have to fill out the right forms and follow procedure.

This is why Biden was stopped from redirecting money for Student Loans. Biden did not have Statutory Authority to do so. Despite being the Chief Executive, he was not allowed to do that. I’ve said before. The Courts acted properly on that one.

Continuing with the Speeding thing. If the Cop did not calibrate and check the detection equipment the ticket will be thrown out. If the equipment was not certified by the appropriate technicians as per the schedule then again, the ticket will be dismissed. The I must be dotted and the T crossed to make it legal.

That is the entire purpose and intent of the Constitution. Restraining Authority from doing things they aren’t supposed to. The enforcement mechanism for that restraint is the Courts. If the Cops didn’t have a Warrant then whatever evidence they found will probably be excluded. If they can’t show Probable Cause the charges are tossed.

It takes more than the President sending out a Tweet in all Caps that it is an Invasion!
 
You see you are almost thinking. Let’s continue shall we? It takes more than the President announcing something. Those pesky laws we have. And that declaration must meet various legal standards. If it doesn’t, and so far every single Judge it has gone before says that Trump hasn’t met those standards.

It’s Government. You have to make sure all the blocks are checked and the I’s are dotted. Sort of like a Deduction on your Taxes. You are entitled to the Deduction but not just because you say so. You have to fill out the right forms and follow procedure.

This is why Biden was stopped from redirecting money for Student Loans. Biden did not have Statutory Authority to do so. Despite being the Chief Executive, he was not allowed to do that. I’ve said before. The Courts acted properly on that one.

Continuing with the Speeding thing. If the Cop did not calibrate and check the detection equipment the ticket will be thrown out. If the equipment was not certified by the appropriate technicians as per the schedule then again, the ticket will be dismissed. The I must be dotted and the T crossed to make it legal.

That is the entire purpose and intent of the Constitution. Restraining Authority from doing things they aren’t supposed to. The enforcement mechanism for that restraint is the Courts. If the Cops didn’t have a Warrant then whatever evidence they found will probably be excluded. If they can’t show Probable Cause the charges are tossed.

It takes more than the President sending out a Tweet in all Caps that it is an Invasion!
Years ago the IBM corporation slogan was "think" sarcastically written as "thimk". You are doing the latter.

Do you think there is a case brought for every speeding ticket? Does the court hear motions to dismiss due to faulty equipment for every citation? No, besides being a waste of time, it would cripple speeding enforcement. Yet you stubbornly refuse to admit the Democrats tantrum of dragging every Trump administration action before a District court is the equivalent of contesting every speeding ticket.

How many cases were brought contesting Autopen Joe's executive actions? A couple dozen at most. According to Speaker Johnson the President issued some 64 executive decrees and regulatory actions that became the proximate cause of the border crisis. Yet, Republicans pursued Congressional and electoral soluntions in keeping with the Constitution. Lo and behold, President Trump has reduced illegal border crossings to historic lows without appealing to petty tyrants on the District court bench.

Am I asserting none of a President's actions should be brought before the courts? Not at all, court cases are what broke FDR'S fascist stranglehold on the Federal government. But not even the opponents of FDR'S unquenchable thirst for unchallenged executive power resorted to the abuse of filing hundreds of lawsuits like contemporary Democrats.
 
Years ago the IBM corporation slogan was "think" sarcastically written as "thimk". You are doing the latter.

Do you think there is a case brought for every speeding ticket? Does the court hear motions to dismiss due to faulty equipment for every citation? No, besides being a waste of time, it would cripple speeding enforcement. Yet you stubbornly refuse to admit the Democrats tantrum of dragging every Trump administration action before a District court is the equivalent of contesting every speeding ticket.

How many cases were brought contesting Autopen Joe's executive actions? A couple dozen at most. According to Speaker Johnson the President issued some 64 executive decrees and regulatory actions that became the proximate cause of the border crisis. Yet, Republicans pursued Congressional and electoral soluntions in keeping with the Constitution. Lo and behold, President Trump has reduced illegal border crossings to historic lows without appealing to petty tyrants on the District court bench.

Am I asserting none of a President's actions should be brought before the courts? Not at all, court cases are what broke FDR'S fascist stranglehold on the Federal government. But not even the opponents of FDR'S unquenchable thirst for unchallenged executive power resorted to the abuse of filing hundreds of lawsuits like contemporary Democrats.
If Trump would stop violating the constitution, he would stop being taken to court, and losing. Pretending this is a political conspiracy, is silly, and demonstrably false.
 
Years ago the IBM corporation slogan was "think" sarcastically written as "thimk". You are doing the latter.

Do you think there is a case brought for every speeding ticket? Does the court hear motions to dismiss due to faulty equipment for every citation? No, besides being a waste of time, it would cripple speeding enforcement. Yet you stubbornly refuse to admit the Democrats tantrum of dragging every Trump administration action before a District court is the equivalent of contesting every speeding ticket.

How many cases were brought contesting Autopen Joe's executive actions? A couple dozen at most. According to Speaker Johnson the President issued some 64 executive decrees and regulatory actions that became the proximate cause of the border crisis. Yet, Republicans pursued Congressional and electoral soluntions in keeping with the Constitution. Lo and behold, President Trump has reduced illegal border crossings to historic lows without appealing to petty tyrants on the District court bench.

Am I asserting none of a President's actions should be brought before the courts? Not at all, court cases are what broke FDR'S fascist stranglehold on the Federal government. But not even the opponents of FDR'S unquenchable thirst for unchallenged executive power resorted to the abuse of filing hundreds of lawsuits like contemporary Democrats.

Have you ever been to Traffic Court? That is literally what they do. Spend a couple hours in one. Challenges to the tickets is what happens.

The problem is that Trump doesn’t want to obey the law. So he issues orders that violate the law and Lawyers file motions and suits before the Courts.

The Ends never justify the means. So arguing that Trump’s actions which are illegal are doing good things is childish nonsense to begin with.
 
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