Why not a Mormon President?

[Navy Pride]

As exceptionally painful as it was, yes. I dislike Romney mostly for his policy views anyway. Kerry was still, despite numerous flaws, the candidate who agreed with me most often.

I'm hoping that the Republicans put up someone solid. And if they put up Romney and the Democrats should put up a left-wing wacko...

I'd swallow my dislike and vote Romney. :2sick1:

The life of a moderate is the life of voting for the lesser of two evils.

Yeah but you said you did not liek flip floppers and Kerry is the biggest flip flopper in history......

 

[Navy Pride]

What is the distinction?
What differentiates a "Christian" from someone who are followers and believers of Jesus?
(My argument would be that most Christians I know are clearly in their deeds/actions/words NOT followers of Christ)....but I doubt that your distinction is the same.

I don't know, I just know they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior....

 

[disneydude]

I don't know, I just know they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior....

SO....that being the case.....why would you say that they aren't "Christian"?

 

[ptsdkid]

How else can you explain Republicans jumping to Hilary and Obama if Romney were the Republican nominee?

***What is this about Republicans jumping to the Marxist Hillary or to the Koran loving Obama if Romney is the Republican governor? Surely you jest. Romney is my man as of 5 o'clock tonight.

 

[Wyrmdog]

They are not Christians but they are followers and believers in Jesus Christ...

I'm trying really hard to follow this logic, but it's escaping me. Could you elaborate?

 

[godwarrior]

I live in Utah and I can say I would not vote for a Mormon president. This is simply because I watch the local government, which is predominately Mormon, make decisions that rarely separate church and state.
Example: deseretnews.com | Moral bills had tough time this year
Quote from the above link. "McCoy said he was disappointed that some issues he sees as truly moral weren't acted on."
I would normally say don’t just not vote for someone because of their religious believes, but if it impacts their decisions as heavily as it does with most of the Mormon politicians, well then it’s like the Seinfeld soup Nazis says. No vote for you!

 

[Wyrmdog]

No vote for you!

Come back in one year? :2razz:

 

[dragonslayer]

Americanwoman, maybe you should get to know a broad section of Mormons and not judge all of them from one couple. I know many very liberal Mormons, I know goofy Mormons, serious ones. Just like any other people.

I have been around mormons much of my life. I have Cousins that are Mormons(LDS) and a Brother who is one. Many of the people that I have loved and respected have been mormons. I even attended BYU, and really enjoyed. The Church of Jesus of Latter Day Saints,, stopped practicing polygamy in 1898. At that time, Polygamy was made illegal by the Fed. One of the main tenants of Mormons is that they believe in obeying the law of the land. It is part of group of mormons rules called the Articles of Faith. Mormons believe strongly in the family unit, and family values.

I am not a Mormon, but without hesitation I would vote for a Mormon for president. I know that the man would be Honest, and follow the law. He would be a loyal dedicated American, and do his very best to serve and protect America.

The Man that I would vote for would have to be a Liberal(this is personal)

Since the LDS Church outlawed polygamy, there have been a number of off shoot cults that carried on the practice. There are little communities, in Utah, Arizona, New Mexico other places who quietly still carry on the practice, but they are not Mormons. Mormons do not practice or teach polygamy.

 

[jfuh]

I have been around mormons much of my life. I have Cousins that are Mormons(LDS) and a Brother who is one. Many of the people that I have loved and respected have been mormons. I even attended BYU, and really enjoyed. The Church of Jesus of Latter Day Saints,, stopped practicing polygamy in 1898. At that time, Polygamy was made illegal by the Fed. One of the main tenants of Mormons is that they believe in obeying the law of the land. It is part of group of mormons rules called the Articles of Faith. Mormons believe strongly in the family unit, and family values.

I am not a Mormon, but without hesitation I would vote for a Mormon for president. I know that the man would be Honest, and follow the law. He would be a loyal dedicated American, and do his very best to serve and protect America.

Bush was an Evangelical, think how many evangelicals thought he'd actually abide by being an evangelical? Yet he made a complete mockery of the faith.
A politicians faith says zero about how honest a public servant they'd be.

The Man that I would vote for would have to be a Liberal(this is personal)

Since the LDS Church outlawed polygamy, there have been a number of off shoot cults that carried on the practice. There are little communities, in Utah, Arizona, New Mexico other places who quietly still carry on the practice, but they are not Mormons. Mormons do not practice or teach polygamy.

There is though a rush for them to bear more children and increase their population.

 

[disneydude]

***What is this about Republicans jumping to the Marxist Hillary or to the Koran loving Obama if Romney is the Republican governor? Surely you jest. Romney is my man as of 5 o'clock tonight.

I am citing the statistics listed in the poll. Whether Republicans would actually jump to either....who knows. But the numbers in the Newsweek poll show that more Republicans polled said that would vote for Hilary or Obama if Romney is the nominee....vs. Guilliani or McCain.

 

[laska]

You may know many liberal Mormons but it is undenialable that the Mormon faith is very Conservative with the exception of "Dingy" Harry Reid who is pro life but is ok with abortion on demand........

NavyPride, it is the Mormon's belief that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints follows the teachings of Jesus, just as the name bears witness to. How a person relates the principles taught by Jesus to current political issues depends on each individual. As I study the particular political issues and try and choose the position consistent with my particular perception of Christ's teachings, I tend to see elements of both conservative and liberal thought blended together on most every issue, in ways that transcend both ideologies.

 

[Navy Pride]

NavyPride, it is the Mormon's belief that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints follows the teachings of Jesus, just as the name bears witness to. How a person relates the principles taught by Jesus to current political issues depends on each individual. As I study the particular political issues and try and choose the position consistent with my particular perception of Christ's teachings, I tend to see elements of both conservative and liberal thought blended together on most every issue, in ways that transcend both ideologies.

Can you list some of those liberal practices or ideologies that the Mormon church adheres to?

 

[laska]

Can you list some of those liberal practices or ideologies that the Mormon church adheres to?

The LDS scriptures teach that everyone should freely consecrate excess riches to the needy-supports consecrated economic equality. Like the early Christians, they lived this law early in their history. The Church is trying to pepare the people to live this law again in the future.

prison system is not set up on Christian principles

teaches the need to be a good steward over the environment

LDS scriptures teach it is never just to use military force to punish a nation, territorial or economic gain, or for reputation and glory. Only in self defense and then only after setting up an ensign of peace and recieving appoval through revelation fom the Lord.

 

[Navy Pride]

The LDS scriptures teach that everyone should freely consecrate excess riches to the needy-supports consecrated economic equality. Like the early Christians, they lived this law early in their history. The Church is trying to pepare the people to live this law again in the future.

prison system is not set up on Christian principles

teaches the need to be a good steward over the environment

LDS scriptures teach it is never just to use military force to punish a nation, territorial or economic gain, or for reputation and glory. Only in self defense and then only after setting up an ensign of peace and recieving appoval through revelation fom the Lord.

Can you list some of those liberal practices or ideologies that the Mormon church adheres to?

 

[laska]

NavyPride, the spirit of the church does reflect the values given in their OWN government. It remains neutral and does not interfere with national politics. (The values I listed are not necessarily liberal, maybe that is what you mean.)

 

[dragonslayer]

Bush was an Evangelical, think how many evangelicals thought he'd actually abide by being an evangelical? Yet he made a complete mockery of the faith.
A politicians faith says zero about how honest a public servant they'd be.



There is though a rush for them to bear more children and increase their population.

Are you indicating that having Children is somehow unamerican?

 

[jfuh]

Are you indicating that having Children is somehow unamerican?

No, not even close. But since you bring it up, what's the hurry?

 

[UtahBill]

Anyone who says Mormons are not Christians is guilty of ignorance.
But maybe they mean to say that Mormons are not the same kind of Christians that they have been taught to be by their totally unbiased well meaning (as long as they get paid well) preachers. :roll:
I think the few differences in beliefs between Mormons and Protestants are minor compared to those beliefs held in common.
Try this, ask your protestant preacher or pastor to get a job, support himself without money from the church, AND pay a tithing to the church so he can qualify to serve the church, and get his reaction. That is the biggest issue that protestant preachers have against Mormons. If all church members served without consideration of financial gain, I could believe that they are actually Christians. Jesus told us to "feed his sheep", not pay a sheepherder to fleece his sheep. Yes, I am a bit cynical about this, and that is because I have seen congregations split up over money issues. When the church has to spend most of its budget on paying the main pastor, assistant pastors, organist, choir director, etc., it leaves little money for actually "feeding his sheep". :2wave:

 

[ludahai]

Actually there are these one mormons that come to my door all the time and we all have a great time arguing religion. They always leave all these books and pamplets and while I may not agree with them, I always read them with an open mind.

Here in Taiwan, they ride around on their bicycles, annoy everyone they can possibly can. If you make the mistake of giving them your phone number, they will call you for months harassing you to go to their church. They are VERY unpopular among the locals here because this brand of in your face pushing of religion is not appreciated in this country. BTW, this is a VERY tolerant country in terms of religion. They simply prefer the methods of Catholics and mainstream Protestants.