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Why is this year 2024 so ****ing similar to 1968 in so many aspects ?

Airyaman said:
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Not really all that similar imo.
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It is very similar. Not because of states that were won, because the demographics changed.

But in 1968, the incumbent D president stepped down and his VP lost the election.

This could happen in November too, Biden out this weekend, then Harris losing.

The popular vote in 1968 was close (like this year), but the D was losing most swing states (D are down in most swing states too right now.)

Trump and Nixon are also similar personalities.
 
One important difference.

In '68 the leading D candidate got assassinated. In '24 it was the leading R candidate, and the shooter missed.
 
eman623 said:
One important difference.

In '68 the leading D candidate got assassinated. In '24 it was the leading R candidate, and the shooter missed.
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Forget it, it was a ridiculous claim.
 

History repeating remarkably - with 1968's election

Putting aside the tragedy of RFK in 1968 (and the oddity of his screwball son's campaign in 2024), there are remarkable parallels between 1968 and 2024's elections. LBJ and Biden are the two presidents who have gotten the most done for the country since FDR at least. Huge accomplishments the...
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Craig234 said:
It's a dismissive exhale. Oddly, I can't find reference to it quickly online.
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So you never moved on either?

You have missed sooooo much.

Life moves forward. Standing still is moving backwards.

Peace
 
Craig234 said:
See my previous post. We disagree on music.
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Not entirely. Few people have listened to as much late 60s early 70s music.
But damn, if i hear Stairway to Heaven one more time.

I am a music enthusiast. I would never limit myself. That is the difference.
 
noonereal said:
Not entirely. Few people have listened to as much late 60s early 70s music.
But damn, if i hear Stairway to Heaven one more time.

I am a music enthusiast. I would never limit myself. That is the difference.
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No, it's not.
 
Tender Branson said:
There are so many parallels, it's absurd.
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I think the parallels are superficial.

The differences are far more significant, as far as I can see.

We were fighting a bloody, demoralizing war in Southeast Asia that very few people even understood, and which was turning the frustrated electorate against the party in power, and the President in particular. Johnson chose not to run again because it was clear he was going to have a hard time winning the nomination. Nothing like that is going on now. (No, not Gaza, let's be serious.)

Johnson did not decline to run because of suspicions that he had developed age-related cognitive problems. It was Vietnam.

In 1968 there was relatively strong far left that had no problem at all with blowing up things (and sometime people) to forward their cause. Nothing like that is in the picture now.

The eventual Republican nominee was Richard Nixon, a pragmatic centrist who did in fact eventually bring the Vietnam War to an end. Nixon was in general quite effective as President and implemented some things that were practically very good for the country, like the EPA, along with some others that were not so great, such as wage and price controls to attempt to control inflation. Like Trump, Nixon did have a bizarrely inflated ego, and a crippling paranoia that led him to do things that were both inexcusable and completely unnecessary to ensure his re-election in 1972. Nixon and Trump might be similar in egotism, but Nixon's paranoia dwarfs Trumps, and Nixon was (unlike Trump) an intelligent, articulate, and competent politician for all his significant failings.

The country was rocked by the assassinations of both Martin Luther King and Roberty Kennedy, who probably would have been the Democratic nominee. Nothing like that has happened this year, notwithstanding the failed attempt on Trump.

Hubert Humphrey, Johnson's VP and the Democratic party's eventual nominee, was undermined by the left wing of the Democrats. That's not likely to happen if Harris is designated as the nominee.

I could go on.
 
noonereal said:
That was 55 years ago. Maybe time to move on?
Wonderful music is made every year,

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Yes, that's true. And there was plenty of crap music around in 1968, which people tend to forget.

I'm a musician, and I love a lot of that stuff from the late 1960's, when I was in my late teens. But we tend to only remember the good stuff and forget about the poor stuff. I don't enjoy much of what comes out now as I did in those days, but then that happens when you get older.
 
vanceen said:
Yes, that's true. And there was plenty of crap music around in 1968, which people tend to forget.

I'm a musician, and I love a lot of that stuff from the late 1960's, when I was in my late teens. But we tend to only remember the good stuff and forget about the poor stuff. I don't enjoy much of what comes out now as I did in those days, but then that happens when you get older.
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Exactly! I heard so many declare that the music of 80s was the best ever. Yes, it is popular music during your formative years that most think is the best ever. Why? It is more closely tied to our emotions. Not because its any better. Basic pyscology 101.
 
  • Incumbent Democratic President drops out of the race but remains President
  • Incumbent Democratic VP becomes the nominee
  • Republican nominee previously lost a presidential election
  • DNC is in Chicago
  • Left-wing of the Democratic Party strongly opposes the President's handling of a war
  • Candidate named "Kennedy" is running
  • Major presidential candidate is shot
  • Third-party candidate polling over 10%

... these are all other parallels to the year 1968.
 
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