Why is the DHS doing this?

[Helix]

i was concerned until i saw that natural news covered the story. that is one of the worst woo sites on the net, so i'm no longer concerned. if they print something, nine times out of ten it's absolute unscientific bull****.

 

[Jango]

and yet, what has been passed so far? Lot of talk. Lately it is more on background check. Is it possible that the govt would try and take high capacity mags, etc. Yes., but unlikely. Remember, the private sells and gun shows sells. there is no real record.

I look at Drudge almost daily. Feinstenin bill went no where. Even Reid, said so. Morgan is just a talking head (left).

Here, I will link to them directly, for you, I guess:

My Way News - Conn. lawmakers unveil bipartisan gun control plan
BBC News - Connecticut agrees to sweeping gun laws after Newtown
Connecticut Lawmakers Reach Deal On Gun Control Laws « CBS New York
Conn. proposals on guns, other items after Newtown - News - Boston.com

 

[Jango]

i was concerned until i saw that natural news covered the story. that is one of the worst woo sites on the net, so i'm no longer concerned. if they print something, nine times out of ten it's absolute unscientific bull****.

That's an ignorant way to go about things, I have to say.

 

[Helix]

That's an ignorant way to go about things, I have to say.

so is advising people to not get their kids vaccinated and inventing stories about the H1N1 vaccine causing miscarriages.

if that site caught on fire, i wouldn't piss on it to put it out. instead, i'd pull out the sticks, and toast up some smores.

 

[Jango]

so is advising people to not get their kids vaccinated and inventing stories about the H1N1 vaccine causing miscarriages.

if that site caught on fire, i wouldn't piss on it to put it out. instead, i'd pull out the sticks, and toast up some smores.

? I thought you weren't concerned about the gun issue anymore simply because some website ran a story on it. I don't care if you're ****ting on the site, I care that you're allegedly ****ting on the guns issue.

 

[Helix]

? I thought you weren't concerned about the gun issue anymore simply because some website ran a story on it. I don't care if you're ****ting on the site, I care that you're allegedly ****ting on the guns issue.

yeah, i'm saying the story is a lot less scary now that a known bull**** site is running with it. i don't like DHS much, but i also don't think they're about to turn the country into a forced labor camp.

 

[Surtr]

Do you not think this is the trend we're currently on? That there will be widespread confiscation of banned firearms from resistant gun-owners?

No, it's a paranoia manufactured and spread by the NRA and gun manufacturers to increase profits. Happens every time a democrat gets voted into office.

 

[Jango]

No, it's a paranoia manufactured and spread by the NRA and gun manufacturers to increase profits. Happens every time a democrat gets voted into office.

Sure, a lot of stuff is said, but the propaganda comes from all involved in the gun-control debate. It is, you should know, the Democrats that are pushing the gun-control issue in America. Democrats like Feinstein have called for confiscation. So I don't necessarily see a parallel between reacting to what powerful Senators say about something and paranoia. That is, if you just take what is coming from the people's mouth's that are pushing gun-control and everything that entails, like banning and confiscation and even regulating ammunition. You're not paranoid or a conspiracy theorist to believe that influential people in power in our government want to disarm American citizens. All a person has to do is hear it from them themselves. How do you debunk that?

 

[Jango]

yeah, i'm saying the story is a lot less scary now that a known bull**** site is running with it. i don't like DHS much, but i also don't think they're about to turn the country into a forced labor camp.

InfoWars, for example, covers the Iranian Nuclear Crisis, the North Korea standoff, the Syrian Civil War, the banding of the BRICS, etc.

A better way to research is to search applicable terms on Google. If the search yields credible results, like from The New York Times, Washington Post, Financial Times, The Times, Telegraph, Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, etc... then it goes to show that you just might have legitimate claims in your hands.

 

[Jango]

No, it's a paranoia manufactured and spread by the NRA and gun manufacturers to increase profits. Happens every time a democrat gets voted into office.

 

[Chatter]

We are doing a similar thing here in the UK, although our Ministry of Keep Calm and Carry On has had to make some cuts due to austerity.Although Government Ministers ae reassuring the public that these vehicles are state of the art and very much capable of dealing with any terrorist related emergency

 

[Surtr]

We are doing a similar thing here in the UK, although our Ministry of Keep Calm and Carry On has had to make some cuts due to austerity.Although Government Ministers ae reassuring the public that these vehicles are state of the art and very much capable of dealing with any terrorist related emergency

Is that a pedal powered car?

 

[Surtr]

Sure, a lot of stuff is said, but the propaganda comes from all involved in the gun-control debate. It is, you should know, the Democrats that are pushing the gun-control issue in America. Democrats like Feinstein have called for confiscation. So I don't necessarily see a parallel between reacting to what powerful Senators say about something and paranoia. That is, if you just take what is coming from the people's mouth's that are pushing gun-control and everything that entails, like banning and confiscation and even regulating ammunition. You're not paranoid or a conspiracy theorist to believe that influential people in power in our government want to disarm American citizens. All a person has to do is hear it from them themselves. How do you debunk that?

Now you're ignoring the previous issue (topic of the thread) in order to try and find common ground, which you will use to attempt to sway me into believing that this stupid conspiracy theory that the DHS is preparing to wage war on US citizens might have some credibility.

I'm not new to the CT game brah, it's a common tactic, which is easily seen through. I own firearms, I really love my firearms, and I strongly disagree with the position that some on the more extreme left are taking. That's why I use reasoned arguments based on fact to refute them. Not off the wall inventions of the imagination.

 

[Chatter]

Is that a pedal powered car?

It's an environmantally sensitive emergecy vehicle that just happens to be fuelled by leg power. :2razz:

 

[Jango]

Now you're ignoring the previous issue (topic of the thread) in order to try and find common ground, which you will use to attempt to sway me into believing that this stupid conspiracy theory that the DHS is preparing to wage war on US citizens might have some credibility.

? I was replying to something you had said ("No, it's a paranoia manufactured and spread by the NRA and gun manufacturers to increase profits. Happens every time a democrat gets voted into office.") I was pointing out that the so-called paranoia is justified fear based off things real living-breathing Democrats have said within the last six months (alone). You seem to be coming from the position that DHS' acquisitions are impossible to be linked to the very recent pressing gun-control issue. You could be right, but you are not in the know to know that position definitively to make such an absolute declaration. While you might stop thinking about a particular event after the talking heads have finished talking or after you yourself have stopped reading an article, but alas, I do not do that. You can take just about any situation that gets reported on. I call them 'stories'. Stories have a beginning, a middle, an end and after reporting. I mean, the story of 'DHS buying equipment and up to 1.6 billion bullets' and 'Gun-Control' is not over. How do you see these stories playing out from here? You cannot see the possibility of those two stories merging? Not at all?

I'm not new to the CT game brah, it's a common tactic, which is easily seen through. I own firearms, I really love my firearms, and I strongly disagree with the position that some on the more extreme left are taking. That's why I use reasoned arguments based on fact to refute them. Not off the wall inventions of the imagination.

I'm not pulling any tactics or whatnot. I'm just a guy that pays attention to the news, loves history, his country, and making prognostications. "Off the wall" is hyperbole. Why is it unreasonable for DHS to serve "high-risk warrants" on gun-owners that are in possession of illegal firearms? If the police and DOJ and DEA and FBI can take away guns, why can't the DHS? I mean, surely you know that DHS has opinions on people that would not relinquish their banned/illegal firearms. Don't you think that the agency responsible for the safeguarding of 'homeland security' would have protocols for such instances?

 

[Surtr]

It's an environmantally sensitive emergecy vehicle that just happens to be fuelled by leg power. :2razz:

Looks like something our fat ass cops need. With sturdier frames, of course.