Why I am atheist....

[watsup]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

 

[The Mark]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

Personally, I consider myself agnostic.
Although I'm becoming less convinced that deities might be a thing as time passes.

Many members of my family are religious, and talk about some kind of realization or call to join from god, but I just haven't encountered this.

Making a jump from skepticism and a requirement for evidence to just believing in something seems unreasonable to me.


I can see that it's comforting for them, but I don't want to be comfortable if it's the comfort of a lie.

 

[Slavister]

How come Santa Clause was not a lesson enough to so many?

 

[The Mark]

How come Santa Clause was not a lesson enough to so many?

Not sure what you mean.

 

[Slavister]

Not sure what you mean.

All those kids believing in Santa only to find out later it was all BS... But this other magical creature "is for real"... You see no parallels?

 

[Gordy327]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

I do not believe in them either. I prefer to go by evidence or proof, of which there is none for any god/s or the supernatural. Hence, that is why I am an atheist.

 

[The Mark]

All those kids believing in Santa only to find out later it was all BS... But this other magical creature "is for real"... You see no parallels?

Ideally, believing in Santa should be used as a tool to teach critical thinking.

"So kids, this is why we have to make sure of the facts, because Santa doesn't actually exist, and is just a creation of our capitalist overlords to encourage consumerism."


Edit: But yes, I understand what you were going for there.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

It's a proven fact that religions need not make sense. That's why they are always babbling about "faith".

 

[Logician Man]

I'm an atheist because I've yet to see/experience any proof that any Gods exist, and have come to the conclusion it is much more likely that mankind created God(s) than any God(s) created mankind.

 

[LittleNipper]

Genesis 3:1-7

King James Version

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1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

 

[Schism]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

I believe in your right to believe whatever you chose. I also believe we should both be free from influence and persuasion to adhere to the beliefs of the other. I further believe that neither of us should be forced to entertain, support the tenants of, or engage in behaviors that we individually oppose of on either side. Live and let live. Don't tread on me. Go about your business and leave me out of it. Do no harm to one another. Seek not to infringe upon either of our rights.

Freedom. Liberty. Individuality and their associations.

 

[Logician Man]

Genesis 3:1-7​

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King James Version​

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1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Did you know there is more evidence that King James was a homosexual than there is evidence that any God(s) have ever existed?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Genesis 3:1-7​

​

King James Version​

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1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Hmm… God created an evil talking serpent to help prove to mankind that he was all powerful and perfect in all ways.

 

[watsup]

Genesis 3:1-7

King James Version

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1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Is there a point here?

 

[watsup]

I believe in your right to believe whatever you chose. I also believe we should both be free from influence and persuasion to adhere to the beliefs of the other. I further believe that neither of us should be forced to entertain, support the tenants of, or engage in behaviors that we individually oppose of on either side. Live and let live. Don't tread on me. Go about your business and leave me out of it. Do no harm to one another. Seek not to infringe upon either of our rights.

Freedom. Liberty. Individuality and their associations.

How very Libertarian of you.

 

[The Mark]

Is there a point here?

Basically if you don't believe you've been gotten to by Satan.

 

[watsup]

Basically if you don't believe you've been gotten to by Satan.

Yeah, whatever.

 

[LittleNipper]

Did you know there is more evidence that King James was a homosexual than there is evidence that any God(s) have ever existed?

King James didn't write the Bible ---- but he was a Catholic, though not necessary a Christian.

 

[LittleNipper]

Hmm… God created an evil talking serpent to help prove to mankind that he was all powerful and perfect in all ways.

No. Please read the passage again and consider the following: "...the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field..." Subtil means crafty, artful, clever. So, it would seem that Satan applied this most clever and crafty creature to subtly entice Eve, who would then beguile Adam.

 

[Logician Man]

King James didn't write the Bible ---- but he was a Catholic, though not necessary a Christian.

Who said King James wrote the Bible? Oh, that's right. No one said it. --- And the word you're fumbling around for is 'necessarily' - not "necessary." You were saying something earlier about apologizing for getting a "modern education"? - (Thanks for the laugh ) -

 

[LittleNipper]

Who said King James wrote the Bible? Oh, that's right. No one said it. --- And the word you're fumbling around for is 'necessarily' - not "necessary." You were saying something earlier about apologizing for getting a "modern education"? - (Thanks for the laugh ) -

Who cares if there is any proof that he was homosexual ---- he isn't anymore even if he once was.

 

[btthegreat]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

I tend not to believe in that which lacks evidence. I presume that a God would most likely leave a good solid trail of tangible evidence for everyone to see, especially if he were the narcissistic type ( so many are!) demanding that people believe in order to gain the fruits of salvation in an afterlife.

 

[Logician Man]

Who cares if there is any proof that he was homosexual.

Those who suffer from Homophobia.

 

[Integrityrespec]

They claim that the world/universe is so infinitely complex that it could not have occurred simply on its own, but that there had to be some sort of ultimate already-existing entity (“god”) that simply created it. And yet in order to do so, this “god “ would need to be infinitely more complex than the already almost infinitely complex world/universe that couldn’t exist on its own. That simply makes no sense. And thus I am an atheist because I don’t believe in fables.

Do you believe in faith? Everything had to come from somewhere, why is believing God created it so hard? It sounds as possible as the big bang! In fact, it's sounds possible that God created the Big Bang!

 

[Loulit01]

No. Please read the passage again and consider the following: "...the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field..." Subtil means crafty, artful, clever. So, it would seem that Satan applied this most clever and crafty creature to subtly entice Eve, who would then beguile Adam.

Snakes are deaf and can't talk. How is that subtle?