Why Everyone's Bored With Atheists

[Paradoxical]

Gravity is a theory. Are you certain of its effects on you if you walk off a tall building? There's no proof that God doesn't exist because you can't prove a negative.



No, I don't think there's scientific proof that God doesn't exist. But you can apply that to Leprechauns and the Tooth Fairy as well.



You are so high-minded.

I find this amusing because the discussion between an agnostic and an atheist boils down to theory and conjecture. Agnosticism is the premise that "God" can neither be proven nor disproven. Atheism is that there is no god. In my previous discussions with religious zealots, they always thought they had the "gotcha" question of "If there is no god, how did we all get here." When I answered, "I don't know" they would pounce on that as if that proved the existence of their imagined "God" of which there have been thousands upon thousands imagined since the dawn of humanity.

if one says "I don't know" how all this started, that is the true answer, and an atheist should just say that he or she finds the imagined God of Christianity to be preposterous and illogical and until they are presented with evidence that their imagined God exists, they are not inclined to jump on board. The same holds true with socialism.

 

[Paradoxical]

Sam Harris isn't remotely as effective as Christopher Hitchens was. And ultimately Sam Harris is just an anti-Arab, western-supremacist bigot.

I don't care if he is anti-Arab because being a Jew, he would be just as Arabs are anti-Jew. It has nothing at all to do with atheism. I do agree that he is not as caustic as was Christiopher Hitchens, who I am sure those debating him would agree. I liked how he pounced on apologists and priests regarding Catholicism and the notion of hell and how he left them flummoxed and angry when he didn't accept their vagaries and bullshit. I suppose I should have used Dawkins instead of Harris, so your criticism is fair.

 

[ataraxia]

An interesting application of technology would be the trans claim that physically altering a male body makes it a female body, though as yet no one has figured out how to make that feminized body bear children.

But trans ideologues aren't even claiming they need to "become" women. So men who claim they're women, sans alterations, are free to compete with women in women's sports contests, where of course their genetic advantages put these "women" ahead of the game.

Maybe one day. But for now- it is someone having a discussion with their doctor and getting a procedure that’s making their body closer to what they want- like liposuction. No one is getting hurt. So where is the immorality?

 

[Paradoxical]

Maybe one day. But for now- it is someone having a discussion with their doctor and getting a procedure that’s making their body closer to what they want- like liposuction. No one is getting hurt. So where is the immorality?

I don't want to pay for someone's experiments is all. If someone thinks he is a frog and wants to have an operation that makes him have webbed feet and hands, he can do that as long as he pays for it, and to NOT expect me to address him as froggy or be put out of my job if I don't.

 

[Michael Cole]

No, because the sociology in Critical Theory is founded in Marxist economic theory and is expressed through legal arguments. Kamala proved that every time she prated about "equity." But the dumbness of your post was your assumption that the two are separable, which I never claimed.

Smh. Critical Theory is graduate level study, and it's generally part of a program. Good luck finding a course devoted to Critical Theory.

Critical Theory and Marxian economics are two different things. Marxian economics is also part of programs in the Sociology or Philosophy departments. There are no courses on Marxism. Your claim that Marxism is running rampant (or however you worded it) in universities is nonsense.

IDGAF about Harris. Your hatred has clouded your thoughts.

What any of this has to do with atheism is known only to you. Leave it there. Your posts are boring me to death.

 

[devildavid]

Just look at page 5! From posts #101 to #118!

The ULTIMATE EVIDENCE: Your Own Proof

You're not understanding the point of this thread - that's the big problem here! That possibility you speak of, no longer exists for me...................................... ................because I already have my own personal proof that the GOD of Abraham is real. I KNOW FOR A FACT...

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Read the replies from atheists!
They're mostly repeating the same old thing! Over and over again.
And...........they're the same handful of atheists that follow and haunt all the Christianity threads!

They're trying so hard to say something - which unfortunately - boils down to saying the same old thing!
But what can they do, if they can't refute something!
Wreck the thread, I suppose! De-rail it.



I just tend to ignore a lot of posts from them. Because, I'm bored with the same stale responses!
I just respond when I feel like it.



I suppose it's hard to find a rational response from atheists since atheism is an irrational position to begin with.............but there are atheists who can get into an adult discussion, and give challenging questions.

It's the CONSTANT REPETITION of IGNORANT REPLIES, that's the killer in discussion forums that's meant for adults.
It's like, getting spammed by kids!

You are describing yourself and your obsession with your misunderstanding of one quote from the NAS. Adults also don’t need to use oversized emojis to mock others. Your posts are the ultimate in repetition. In fact, you often dominate threads with one post after another without ever getting replies to those posts. Your posts have cornered the market on boring repetition.

 

[watsup]

Watsup and I were speaking of the reasons I cited for my positions, which watsup mischaracterized as "excuses." If any believers mischaracterize my positions, I'll respond to them in kind. But so far on this thread, it's only been the atheists lying about an agnostic, meaning me.

Please quit whining. It’s tiresome.

 

[watsup]

Spoken like a non-believer who only believes he understands the argument.

There’s no argument from you. There’s only false and generalized accusations towards atheists in support of carrying water for the believers.

 

[ataraxia]

I tried to get a definition of "cafeteria Christian" days ago and got no response. Don't get your hopes up.

It's someone who can read this and ignore it or try to "properly interpret" it to mean something other than what it plainly says:

"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
-1 Corinthians 14:35

It's someone who can read the Gospel of Matthew and still say the poor are that way just because they are stupid and lazy and they and their whole family should be left out on the street to die until they learn their lesson to work harder like Donald Trump's children.

 

[watsup]

Nope, still just a lot of silly irrational blather, except, like I said above, Michael Cole, who at least supplied some coherent reasons for his position.

Unlike you. The OP is a ridiculous mess. You can’t build a skyscraper on quicksand.

 

[Paradoxical]

It's someone who can read this and ignore it or try to "properly interpret" it to mean something other than what it plainly says:

"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
-1 Corinthians 14:35

It's someone who can read the Gospel of Matthew and still say the poor are that way just because they are stupid and lazy and they and their whole family should be left out on the street to die until they learn their lesson to work harder like Donald Trump's children.

Some do say that Jesus was a socialist but like everything else with the bible they pick and choose what he allegedly said to suit their own agenda. This is why there are scores of denominations. Your posted meme is an example of this. Because Jesus supposedly said we should give all we have to the poor that means that Christians who are nationalists and capitalists are not following his teachings. Jesus also said to disown your family and not too many do that.

What all Christians do is to ignore the parts they don't like.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Speak of mischaracterization, up pops Nolan Voyd, who doesn't even have the virtue of making any new arguments.

From a guy who doesn't have the virtue to admit his faulty arguement.

 

[Gordy327]

From a guy who doesn't have the virtue to admit his faulty arguement.

Faulty might be giving too much credit. It implies there's an actual argument or attempt at one to be had.

 

[devildavid]

Yet a number of atheists here have claimed they're NOT all on the same page. Not that I have agreed with that statement, but if it's a virtue for atheists, it's a virtue for believers.

All atheists are on the same page regarding gods. No atheists believe in gods. There is nothing else to atheism other than that.

 

[devildavid]

Ditto your false rhetoric about the meaning of the word "belief."

You are the one with false rhetoric about beliefs. Atheism is not a belief, thus atheists do not share any beliefs. There are zero beliefs that can be ascribed to atheism.

 

[devildavid]

You still have no clue as to what a straw man argument is, even after I gave you the definition. You're not doing atheists credit with your dogma.

I know exactly what a straw man argument is and your posts about atheists fit it to a t.

 

[devildavid]

You still have no clue as to what a straw man argument is, even after I gave you the definition. You're not doing atheists credit with your dogma.

You are the one with no clue as to straw arguments ans evidenced by the fact that you keep unwittingly making them in regard to atheists.

 

[Lursa]

Of course they're on the same page. Atheists do not have beliefs in gods. That's it.

LOL There's only one page for atheists...they dont believe in god. There's no membership, no newsletter, no beliefs, no collective common derivation for that lack of belief...making any more of it is stupid.

 

[Gordy327]

LOL There's only one page for atheists...they dont believe in god. There's no membership, no newsletter, no beliefs, no collective common derivation for that lack of belief...making any more of it is stupid.

And yet, there are some who call atheism a religion or atheists have beliefs or other such nonsense. Go figure.

 

[KingLeo]

Why atheist don't care if the religious cults are bored with us.

 

[devildavid]

The same statement could be made about any number of theists. In fact, their interpretations of the world are on the whole less doctrinaire than those of atheists. If you want to prove otherwise, cite someone who diverges from O'Hair in a significant way, not just in some vague manner that confirms your bias.

Yes, theism includes many different views of gods. One atheist’s views does not represent what atheism is any more than one theist’s views represent what theism is. Both are general terms regarding belief or lack of belief in gods. There is no atheist doctrine just as there is no theist doctrine. Doctrines come from specific belief systems, not the general belief or lack of belief in gods.

 

[devildavid]

you will keep repeating your empty rhetoric, the same way a boring theist would. Hope you're proud of your likeness to your enemies.

As long as you make straw man arguments I will point them out.

 

[devildavid]

you will keep repeating your empty rhetoric, the same way a boring theist would. Hope you're proud of your likeness to your enemies.

You keep repeating straw man arguments. Nothing is more boring than that.

 

[devildavid]

Your false usage of both the words "insult" and "straw man" is hilarious every time you repeat it.

Your use of straw man arguments is sad and pathetic.

 

[devildavid]

Atheists only care about their own reasons and no one else's. What else is new?

You are describing yourself.