Why Even A Small Thanksgiving Is Dangerous

[Eriech]

They're ignoring their societal responsibilities.

This is not a political issue. Surely people with all flavors of political thoughts are actively ignoring the guidelines on travel and holiday gatherings.

That the snowflakes are ignoring the governors too is a good sign.

The government responses to the pandemic is political for sure; nanny state vs liberty

 

[Antiwar]

That the snowflakes are ignoring the governors too is a good sign.

The government responses to the pandemic is political for sure; nanny state vs liberty

So shallow.

 

[Threegoofs]

They're ignoring their societal responsibilities.

This is not a political issue. Surely people with all flavors of political thoughts are actively ignoring the guidelines on travel and holiday gatherings. It is reckless endangerment.

I flew Saturday- the plane was full, airport was busy- although not even close to what any average holiday weekend would be, much less Thanksgiving week. Mask usage at OHare was pretty much 100%.

Many looked to be students traveling back home from college, which is an entirely reasonable thing to expect.

 

[Antiwar]

I flew Saturday- the plane was full, airport was busy- although not even close to what any average holiday weekend would be, much less Thanksgiving week. Mask usage at OHare was pretty much 100%.

Many looked to be students traveling back home from college, which is an entirely reasonable thing to expect.

The virus doesn't operate on reasoning, it replicates in available hosts.

I understand and empathize with the temporary hardships. Hopefully a good vaccine will pan out, early in the new year.

 

[Phys251]

Who is right about the exact death rate is actually besides the point. If you're scared of the virus, feel free to isolate yourself. I'm sure your family will understand. Those of us who aren't so worry-prone will accept the small risk of infection inherent in any human interaction.

NO.

Those words show us how unwilling your ilk is to regard the most basic of human safety in others. I won't stop you if you want to endanger your own life, but you do NOT have the right to endanger the lives of others. If you do, I fully support the government's right to stop you. My life is more important than your freedumb.

 

[Phys251]

I am currently listening to a nurse in my area. I'll summarize some of the many important points:
* Most people with Covid-19 that go into the ICU die
* They're still short on PPE
* They're working themselves to death, sometimes literally
* I've seen people as young as 21 with no comorbidities die; we don't know why
* Nurses are suffering from PTSD
* Ignoring the guidelines will continue to mean that more people will die unnecessarily


This scenario is similar to a war that we are losing. People that are ignoring the guidelines are causing more casualties. They and their loved ones aren't in the war, yet. They're not exercising their freedom, they're recklessly and callously adding to our suffering.

That is why trump should have declared a national emergency months ago and put this virus to a stop. His inhumane refusal to do so are why we had to vote him out.

On January 20, President-elect Biden must take as decisive of action as George W. Bush took on 9/11/2001.

 

[AmNat]

What EXACTLY are you implying, then the person worried, is NOT the one well adjusted?

Correct. It's not healthy to go around worrying about minor risks. If you find yourself irrationally worried all the time, it might be advisable to take up a job or a hobby or something to keep yourself busy.

NO.

Those words show us how unwilling your ilk is to regard the most basic of human safety in others. I won't stop you if you want to endanger your own life, but you do NOT have the right to endanger the lives of others. If you do, I fully support the government's right to stop you. My life is more important than your freedumb.

Thankfully, my family lives in a free state. So you'll just have to live with us celebrating Thanksgiving.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

They're ignoring their societal responsibilities.

This is not a political issue. Surely people with all flavors of political thoughts are actively ignoring the guidelines on travel and holiday gatherings. It is reckless endangerment.

it is not reckless endangerment and there is no ethical framework by which you have an obligation to prevent inadvertent disease spread otherwise visiting people should NEVER be permitted and never have been even before coronavirus

 

[EMNofSeattle]

That is why trump should have declared a national emergency months ago and put this virus to a stop. His inhumane refusal to do so are why we had to vote him out.

On January 20, President-elect Biden must take as decisive of action as George W. Bush took on 9/11/2001.

You mean Joe Biden should lie us into wars for the profits of defense contractors?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I am currently listening to a nurse in my area. I'll summarize some of the many important points:
* Most people with Covid-19 that go into the ICU die
* They're still short on PPE
* They're working themselves to death, sometimes literally
* I've seen people as young as 21 with no comorbidities die; we don't know why
* Nurses are suffering from PTSD
* Ignoring the guidelines will continue to mean that more people will die unnecessarily


This scenario is similar to a war that we are losing. People that are ignoring the guidelines are causing more casualties. They and their loved ones aren't in the war, yet. They're not exercising their freedom, they're recklessly and callously adding to our suffering.

She has not seen 21 year olds with no health issues die. That is pure fiction. It’s being invented.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

NO.

Those words show us how unwilling your ilk is to regard the most basic of human safety in others. I won't stop you if you want to endanger your own life, but you do NOT have the right to endanger the lives of others. If you do, I fully support the government's right to stop you. My life is more important than your freedumb.

If you feel your life is more important you can lock yourself at home.

you are actually making a stupid argument, me not traveling only makes you safer if you ARE traveling. For me to endanger you, you must interact with people in public. So you are being hypocritical.

 

[snakestretcher]

Why Even A Small Thanksgiving Is Dangerous

We all thought we knew what kinds of places to avoid: the ballparks, the Sunday services, the packed train cars. If we didn’t want to catch COVID-19, we should …

fivethirtyeight.com

It gets worse.

I chose not to do a family get-together for Thanksgiving 2020 because I want to have one in 2021. Be responsible and do the same.

Yes, our government is easing restrictions for the holidays-a dumb move in my opinion. I was invited to friends for the celebration but have declined. Is it worth risking getting really seriously sick just for a party? Not in my book. Have your Christmas in the Spring when things, hopefully, will be easier.

 

[snakestretcher]

If you are worried about getting COVID then I'd recommend you isolate yourself. Those of us who are well-adjusted adults will continue going about our lives.

Like 260,000 well-adjusted dead Americans? They were going about their lives too, until they lost them. Wear a ****ing mask, keep a social distance, wash your hands often.

 

[Luther]

Why Even A Small Thanksgiving Is Dangerous

We all thought we knew what kinds of places to avoid: the ballparks, the Sunday services, the packed train cars. If we didn’t want to catch COVID-19, we should …

fivethirtyeight.com

It gets worse.

I chose not to do a family get-together for Thanksgiving 2020 because I want to have one in 2021. Be responsible and do the same.

We're all just going to die!!!!

 

[snakestretcher]

I actually am. But it’s with a bunch of kids in their 20s, and 100% outdoors.

im a non-combatant these days,since I survived COVID back in October. Can’t give it, can’t get it.

Don't kid yourself that you're immune. So far there is no evidence that immunity is conferred post infection, and there are reports of reinfection. Be careful, complacency kills.

 

[Threegoofs]

Don't kid yourself that you're immune. So far there is no evidence that immunity is conferred post infection, and there are reports of reinfection. Be careful, complacency kills.

It’s pretty rare, from what I can tell.

 

[americanwoman]

Over 2 million people on planes Friday. Airports packed. Good to see the governors being ignored finally.

Make America free again

We can be free but we can't be a selfless pro-life "Christian" nation either now.

 

[noonereal]

If you are worried about getting COVID then I'd recommend you isolate yourself. Those of us who are well-adjusted adults will continue going about our lives.

Those of you who are ignorant arrogant and unethical will go about your lives as normal.

I would be fine with you infecting yourself if you were then denied ALL medical treatment when you came down with it.

 

[Mongidig]

Correct. It's not healthy to go around worrying about minor risks. If you find yourself irrationally worried all the time, it might be advisable to take up a job or a hobby or something to keep yourself busy.

Thankfully, my family lives in a free state. So you'll just have to live with us celebrating Thanksgiving.

It's the sheep of the world who feel they must celebrate this or that because that's what everybody else is doing. You must spend tons of money for dinner when the prices are jacked up for Valentines day. You must go out on New Years Eve(amateur night) because everybody else does. It seems like the mindless followers are the ones who must get in their Thanksgiving celebration.

 

[Mongidig]

Over 2 million people on planes Friday. Airports packed. Good to see the governors being ignored finally.

Make America free again

Trump is officially done! You don't have to parrot everything he says. You don't have to blindly follow his orders anymore. You are free to think for yourself and be an individual.

 

[Guyzilla]

Correct. It's not healthy to go around worrying about minor risks. If you find yourself irrationally worried all the time, it might be advisable to take up a job or a hobby or something to keep yourself busy.

Thankfully, my family lives in a free state. So you'll just have to live with us celebrating Thanksgiving.

You dont have a ****ing clue, do you? I run, I think, about a 60/40 chance of DEATH. Due to my vulnerabilities. Is that high enough not to be a sick fool?

 

[noonereal]

Thankfully, my family lives in a free state. So you'll just have to live with us celebrating Thanksgiving.

Some would call your family deplorable. I think these actions are just ignorant and misguided.

 

[Phys251]

Correct. It's not healthy to go around worrying about minor risks. If you find yourself irrationally worried

Your ignorant gaslighting is dismissed.

Thankfully, my family lives in a free state. So you'll just have to live with us celebrating Thanksgiving.

You support the "right" to endanger other people's lives. I thought you people were prolife? What's next, is your ilk going to support bombing US citizens?

 

[AmNat]

Like 260,000 well-adjusted dead Americans? They were going about their lives too, until they lost them. Wear a ****ing mask, keep a social distance, wash your hands often.

Millions of Americans have died this year. Just like every other year.

It's the sheep of the world who feel they must celebrate this or that because that's what everybody else is doing. You must spend tons of money for dinner when the prices are jacked up for Valentines day. You must go out on New Years Eve(amateur night) because everybody else does. It seems like the mindless followers are the ones who must get in their Thanksgiving celebration.

The irony is strong here.

You dont have a ****ing clue, do you? I run, I think, about a 60/40 chance of DEATH. Due to my vulnerabilities. Is that high enough not to be a sick fool?

As I said, if you're worried you can isolate yourself.

You support the "right" to endanger other people's lives.

There are already four of us here. By tomorrow evening it'll be ten. Does this terrify you?

 

[Phys251]

Millions of Americans have died this year. Just like every other year.

Stopped reading right there. I will not entertain your pro-death, accelerationist bullshit.

If you want to behave in a manner that endangers only your life, I don't endorse it, but I won't stop you.

However, if you behave in a manner that endangers other people's lives, then you must be stopped. And, if you're to be consistent with what you said in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread, stopped with lethal force.

I don't endorse going that far yet. I'm just trying to get you to be logically consistent and to show the bare minimum of respect for other people's lives, something you obviously struggle to do.