Navy Pride
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Navy Pride said:Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "... for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives ...
"How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"
yeah, and there were lynchings and segragation, rampant racism, so yeah, back in the days of spankings everything was obviously so eutopian in the fifties.
Navy Pride said:I think this tells it all:
In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"
In light of recent events..terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.
Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school . the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.
Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
Are you laughing?
Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.
Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in
galenrox said:For one, I don't like that you only respond to one sentence out of a long response. What do you have to say about the rest of what I said?
To a degree you're right. But going entirely in either direction is horrible for a child. If you don't let a child figure out anything on their own, they end up incapable of thinking for themselves, or they end up insanely rebellious and **** up their entire lives, but also taking the opinion that they can do whatever they like almost always leads to them either becoming a rock star or ****ing their lives up irreperably.
But saying things in general were better in the 50s is just a proposterous statement. I'm pretty sure that everything post segregation is in general better than anything pre-segregation.
Navy Pride said:Sometimes putting the fear of God in a child works wonders...........The permissive attitude of the left and their mantra "If it feels good do it." is disgusting........
galenrox said:I'm saying that it's impossible to seperate different aspects of the time. Chaos theory shows that everything is interconnected, and so we cannot fully say how spanking in of itself effected anything, or if it was part of something else that led to lynchings, or what. Spanking was part of the whole of the time, and the time was a time filled with predjudice and hate, and saying that the way we raised our kids in the fifties and before was cool, but what they did once they were grown was not, keeping in mind that a lot of the kids raised in those environments that you are now touting as the ideal situation to raise a child went on to be hateful racists.
Argonath said:Yeah, nothing like scaring a kid into thinking that if he doesn't do right, a man in the sky will send him to a bubbling lake of lava for all eternity, so clean your room, timmy!
galenrox said:yeah, and then they cranked out kids who thought that a black kid whistling at a white woman merited death by hanging, now they smoke a lot of weed. Yes nothing's perfect, but we're a lot closer now than we were then.
Whining on the left !Navy Pride said:I truly suspect that if God forbid Saddam did get a WOMD, give it to a terrorist, or use it himself here in the U.S. the same people who are whinning on the left now about attacking him would be whinning that we should have taken him out when we had the chance..........
Navy Pride said:Maybe where you live but not where I did.......You keep trying to play this all about race.......You liberals and democrats are notorious for playing the race car no matter what the issue........
Navy Pride said:I am trying to figure out what lynching and segregation have to do with spanking your child......I guess someone like you could make the connection......
No one is saying things were perfect in the fifties but kids behaved a hell of a lot better in general then they do today............
Navy Pride said:Let me make this comment about spanking.......When I was a child in the fifties if I did something wrong I was spanked as were all of my friends........
Navy Pride said:Sometimes putting the fear of God in a child works wonders...........The permissive attitude of the left and their mantra "If it feels good do it." is disgusting........
Navy Pride said:Like I said things were not perfect in the fifties but I don't get your connection with segration when it comes to the topic of spanking a child........
I am sure you have heard of the old saying......."Spare the rod, spoil the child."
Why doesn't God Protect us from disasters and terrorist attacks?
SKILMATIC said:Why dont you pray more? Why dont you live better? If you think natural disasters are Gods doing then you better think again. God gives us the choices in our lives to make so we must also then accept the consequences.
DonRicardo said:It's false to get your morality out of a book.
That's one of the Buddha's teachings, to gain truth through personal experiance. I'd applaude, but, you know. . . .can't clap on the Net.
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