Why does Trump insist on using a doctored photo of Garcia's hand tattoos? (1 Viewer)

[Callen]

His membership in MS-13 may not be the issue as you say.

As it relates to SC ruling it isn't. He entitled to due process ....that's the legal issue.

 

[eman623]

It is already been shown to be a doctored photo, and yet not only did Trump use it last night, he's doing it again today via the official White House Xitter account.



Now, I understand MAGA is lost and they will only believe Trump's lies, but who else does he think he is fooling with this bullshit?

This is actual hand tattoo:

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There is no "MS 13" on his hand, it's all bad photoshopping by Trump and co.

Its not the actual letters. The symbols are

Marijuana - M
Smile - S
Cross - 1
Skull - 3

The picture that shows them backwards may be a flipped image which would explain it's seemingly his right hand

 

[RF667799]

Yes, that's how we know it's doctored. But it's clearly not meant to be a label. Here are links with lots of pics with labels:

The ultimate guide to the New York Subway | Worth Every Mile

The absolute guide to the New York Subway. What to avoid - How to save time and everything you need to know to get around the city.

wortheverymile.com

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Using the Explorer Window | Managing Files and Folders in Windows 8.1 | InformIT

This chapter shows how you can keep track of files and folders in Windows 8.1. The better organized your files and folders are, easier it will be to find them!

www.informit.com

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Sorry. Your cherry picked examples don't support the idea of an immutable standard with regard to labeling photos. You left out the examples of color 8x10 glossy photos with circles and arrows and a paragraph in the back of each one...

Realistically, Trump and his administration have the resources to doctor that photo so the letters would actually appear to be tattoos instead of obvious labels.

This is really interesting though. It's long been known that preconceived notions can affect people's actual vision- or at least interrupt the information between the eyes and the brain- and this thread helps illustrate that.

 

[Airyaman]

Its not the actual letters. The symbols are

Marijuana - M
Smile - S
Cross - 1
Skull - 3

The picture that shows them backwards may be a flipped image

According to who?

 

[SavannahMann]

Illicit gangs often use esoteric imagery to signal membership to other comrades.

Hell...not just illicit gangs.

Deus Vult as an example?

 

[eman623]

According to who?

Maybe he's just a really big fan of Microsoft Windows 13, or will be if it is ever released.

 

[RF667799]

Deus Vult as an example?

Possibly, but I believe that might be esoteric imagery common to more than one gang.

 

[Airyaman]

How do you know THIS isn't the photoshopped photo?

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[Nickyjo]

What difference does it make whether this guy is Mother Teresa or Ted Bundy? The issue is due process. You know, what Trump and Ted Bundy got.

 

[Bodecea]

The relevance to me is in this thread, where the claim is being made that additional tattoos were photoshopped onto his hand.

His membership in MS-13 may not be the issue as you say. But some are very keen to deny it as being possible at all. They apparently don't like the idea of admitting that yes he may be associated with MS-13, but that isn't relevant to the case.

It's possible that you are a member of MS-13 too, if we're going to play that game.

 

[Airyaman]

Maybe he's just a really big fan of Microsoft Windows 13, or will be if it is ever released.

Again, how did you come up with your interpretation? Are you an expert on gang tattoos?

 

[Josie]

Umm...obviously not! If it were a label, it'd be in a little box or something, not one letter placed over each knuckle made to look like they're tattooed on his hand.

I just glanced at it and could see it wasn't part of the tattoo but put on the image.

 

[OrphanSlug]

At this point, it is tough to trust anything Trump produces.

 

[RF667799]

It's possible that you are a member of MS-13 too, if we're going to play that game.

I don't even have any tattoos.

Why so keen to avoid and deflect?

 

[ElChupacabra]

It is already been shown to be a doctored photo, and yet not only did Trump use it last night, he's doing it again today via the official White House Xitter account.



Now, I understand MAGA is lost and they will only believe Trump's lies, but who else does he think he is fooling with this bullshit?

This is actual hand tattoo:

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There is no "MS 13" on his hand, it's all bad photoshopping by Trump and co.

The only reasonable explanation is they think the MAGAverse base are idiots. That image he's using is such a bad photoshop job.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The relevance to me is in this thread, where the claim is being made that additional tattoos were photoshopped onto his hand.

His membership in MS-13 may not be the issue as you say. But some are very keen to deny it as being possible at all. They apparently don't like the idea of admitting that yes he may be associated with MS-13, but that isn't relevant to the case.

It's possible, but that has not been substantiated and the claims have not been cross examined. That the informant claimed Garcia is a member of an MS-13 chapter in another state he's never lived in also raises question on the veracity of those claims.

 

[RF667799]

What difference does it make whether this guy is Mother Teresa or Ted Bundy? The issue is due process. You know, what Trump and Ted Bundy got.

Because if he is associated with MS-13, the narrative of an innocent bystander caught up in Trump's draconian nets...goes right out the window.

 

[RF667799]

It's possible, but that has not been substantiated and the claims have not been cross examined. That the informant claimed Garcia is a member of an MS-13 chapter in another state he's never lived in also raises question on the veracity of those claims.

The imagery of those tattoos does seem to add some more weight to those claims though.

 

[Callen]

Because if he is associated with MS-13, the narrative of an innocent bystander caught up in Trump's draconian nets...goes right out the window.

Who specifically is making that claim? I've never heard anyone say anything of the sort. The only thing I've heard is he was removed in error and was afforded no due process before being incarcerated.

 

[ElChupacabra]

How do you know THIS isn't the photoshopped photo?

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If it is, it's a much better one than what Donnie Boy's circulating on social media. Maybe the MS-13 Cyber Squad has been busy scouring the internet and photoshopping any images of Garcia's hands with the MS-13 tattoos and Donnie Boy managed to get his hands on the only one left. Yeah, that's the ticket!

 

[Airyaman]

The imagery of those tattoos does seem to add some more weight to those claims though.

What imagery would that be?

 

[soap box]

Look, if mass shooters get due process, and an axe murderer gets due process, a guy with tattoos gets it too.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Maybe he's just a really big fan of Microsoft Windows 13, or will be if it is ever released.

So no response as to how you cracked the MS-13 code?

 

[RF667799]

Who specifically is making that claim? I've never heard anyone say anything of the sort. The only thing I've heard is he was removed in error and was afforded no due process before being incarcerated.

Nah. I've seen the characterizations of him as a law abiding, "Maryland father", etc. That's a narrative being disseminated.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The imagery of those tattoos does seem to add some more weight to those claims though.

How so?