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Why does the US have more mass shootings?

Lutherf said:
According to "professor" Adam Lankford it's because we have too much freedom.

American exceptionalism and the ‘exceptionally American’ problem of mass shootings



The "false promise" of the American Dream? What "promise"? See, this is where the pinko, commie, tree hugging, dope smoking liberals have taken this country. There is no "promise" of success in America and there never has been. The only promise was that everyone would have the opportunity to seek success on their own terms and in accordance with the efforts and abilities they brought to the table. But that wasn't good enough for the Progressives starting way back with Teddy Roosevelt.

The idea that there is supposed to be some great American "promise" of success started as a purely political construction for the sole purpose of garnering votes. Little by little, though, those in elected offices figured that if they could legislate a little "success" into the mix then those votes would keep on coming and sure as hell, that's where we are now. We hear it day in and day out now. Everything will be fine and dandy if we let government do this for us or if we force them to do that for us. Well guess what, there is no freaking Utopia!! It doesn't exist and never will exist!! If you want to live in the land of milk and honey you have one option.....BUILD IT YOURSELF!!!


Maybe this jackass "professor" does kind of have a point though. Maybe part of the problem really is that people in this country aren't feeling fulfilled. That could well be part of the problem. But, hey, when you abandon God and seek comfort in the arms of the harlot that is government you're pretty well guaranteeing that feeling of emptiness that follows the realization that you just spent your rent money on lipstick, pancake makeup and a case of the clap.
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We never promised results. We promised opportunity. Two very different things.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
It's illegal if you get paid less than minimum wage and/or the income isn't reported for tax purposes.

Now, if you want to claim that there should be no minimum wage or no income tax . . . good luck. Most people know better than to listen to such nonsense.
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Well, except economists, but I'm sure you know better than them. I'll just take your word for it. :lamo
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Not legitimate economists. The crackpots don't count. :)
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Yea, what does Milton Friedman know? He's just a Nobel laureate. But hey, I hear great things all over about the Internet random guy DifferentDrummr, who's known for his economic prowess. Just ask him. He's a legend in his own mind.
 
LagerHead said:
Yea, what does Milton Friedman know? He's just a Nobel laureate. But hey, I hear great things all over about the Internet random guy DifferentDrummr, who's known for his economic prowess. Just ask him. He's a legend in his own mind.
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Fail. Friedman never supported repealing the income tax. (He actually advocates a variation of a progressive tax system.)
 
DifferentDrummr said:
You clearly have no idea what it is. A simple wikipedia session is enough to prove you wrong.
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I was incorrect about Friedman. I am big enough to admit that. Now, are you big enough to admit that the U.S. flourished long before an income tax was ever implemented?
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Did I ever say otherwise?
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You said only crackpots advocate abolition of an income tax. If our country was able to flourish without an income tax, why would one who advocates the government living within its means be a crackpot?
 
LagerHead said:
You said only crackpots advocate abolition of an income tax. If our country was able to flourish without an income tax, why would one who advocates the government living within its means be a crackpot?
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For one thing, the economy and the infrastructure were completely different before 1916. I strongly doubt that you'll find a credible source who says the US can survive without an income tax TODAY, a century later.
 
I think that it has a lot to with making shooters celebrities. It gives some really disturbed people a chance to get the "15 minutes of fame" they want. I think that one of the best things we could do to start fighting this kind of thing is to stop making the shooters names public and keeping them out of the press as much as possible. It would require a willing press to help with this, so I don't think it would ever happen.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
For one thing, the economy and the infrastructure were completely different before 1916. I strongly doubt that you'll find a credible source who says the US can survive without an income tax TODAY, a century later.
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Of course not. We've all been brainwashed into believing that people can't survive on their own, that the U.S. needs to be the world's police, and that war is in our best interests. Eliminate those things, simplify the tax code, end the war on drugs, dismantle the police state, and we would be perfectly able to do that.
 
LagerHead said:
Of course not. We've all been brainwashed into believing that people can't survive on their own, that the U.S. needs to be the world's police, and that war is in our best interests. Eliminate those things, simplify the tax code, end the war on drugs, dismantle the police state, and we would be perfectly able to do that.
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As I said, find a credible economist who has a reasonable plan for restructuring the US tax system so that it can get by with no income tax. . . and I'll begin to consider the idea seriously.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
As I said, find a credible economist who has a reasonable plan for restructuring the US tax system so that it can get by with no income tax. . . and I'll begin to consider the idea seriously.
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Vernon L. Smith. Thank you.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Never heard of England or Australia "punishing" its citizens for what a lone criminal does.

You need to research the definition of punish (among many others).
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If you were a pistol shooter, having your pistols declared illegal and confiscated is punishment

being forced to sell your weapons back to a government is punishment. You need to actually understand what has happened and just because you are afraid to own a gun and don't see the reason for doing so, other people like owning them and TAKING THAT ability away is a punishment
 
TurtleDude said:
If you were a pistol shooter, having your pistols declared illegal and confiscated is punishment

being forced to sell your weapons back to a government is punishment. You need to actually understand what has happened and just because you are afraid to own a gun and don't see the reason for doing so, other people like owning them and TAKING THAT ability away is a punishment
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It's unfair, but that doesn't automatically make it a punishment.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
It's unfair, but that doesn't automatically make it a punishment.
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silly parsing of words. Its group guilt nonsense that Liberals are so keen on. Having stuff taken from you when you haven't done anything wrong is oppression-rather than punishment but people who believe as you do want to punish gun owners. I only wished the British gun owners had resisted that nonsense
 
TurtleDude said:
silly parsing of words. Its group guilt nonsense that Liberals are so keen on. Having stuff taken from you when you haven't done anything wrong is oppression-rather than punishment but people who believe as you do want to punish gun owners. I only wished the British gun owners had resisted that nonsense
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Which silliness you started with the whole "punishment" soundbite.

And it's ridiculous to claim that anyone wants to punish all gun owners without being able to accuse them of some kind transgression. It's impossible to punish anyone for anything without at least that: and you know it. You just want to make hyperbolic emotional appeals that have no basis in fact.
 
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