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Why does NEWSMAX habitually allow guests to refer to our system as a “democracy”.

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Unlike a “democracy” where 51% of its participants rule, our Constitution guarantees a “Republican Form of Government” (See Article 4, Section 4) under which consent of the governed is required by three fourths (75%) of the participants (see Article 5), and not a mere majority as in a “democracy”, AKA mob-rule government.

John Adams, a prominent figure in the Revolutionary War and second President of the United States warns:

“Democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all; and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel…”.


So why does NEWSMAX allow guests, such as Dick Morris, to falsely reference to NEWSMAX’S viewers that our system is a “democracy”, and intentionally does so to suggest that “democracy” is a desirable form of government?



"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;

From spiritual faith to great courage;

From courage to liberty;

From liberty to abundance;

From abundance to selfishness;

From selfishness to complacency;

From complacency to apathy;

From apathy to dependence;

From dependence back into bondage.

_____ Author unknown


Has NEWMAX, in general, not yet learned that words have meaning?
 
Of course the USA is a democracy. You guys elect everybody- legislators, judges, cops everybody.
Republic just means no monarchy. Like the Republic of Ireland being different from Northern Ireland.
The USA is a democratic republic. Canada is a democratic constitutional monarchy.
 

Why does NEWSMAX habitually allow guests to refer to our system as a “democracy”.​

Because that's what the useful idiots understand.

btw, it's not just Newsmax.
 
Democracies and republics are not mutually ****ing exclusive. Heritage folks want to make us believe that because they want to go back to only rich ****s voting.
 
Unlike...

Do you have a link the non-standard and novel definition you are using for the word which excludes republics?

or is it just more of a feelings thing w/ you?


  1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
  2. a state having such a form of government.
    The United States and Canada are democracies.
  3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
  4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
  5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.
 
Of all the nonsense that Newsmax is responsible for, this is way down at the bottom of the importance list. Those guys are still lying about the 2020 election.
 

Why does NEWSMAX habitually allow guests to refer to our system as a “democracy”.​

Because that's what the useful idiots understand.

btw, it's not just Newsmax.

also, there's just the plain old regular meaning of the word which renders it an accurate description

 

Why does NEWSMAX habitually allow guests to refer to our system as a “democracy”.​

Because that's what the useful idiots understand.

btw, it's not just Newsmax.
No, it's about the useful idiots not understanding what 'republic' means.
 
Of course the USA is a democracy.

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence." ___ Article 4, Section 4, United States Constitution.
 
Oh here we go.

The jackasses who think that "republic" somehow means "not democracy." How are people still saying this dumb shit in 2025.

One thing you're right about though, in practical terms we aren't a democracy. Moreso a oligarchy, plutocracy, and now kakistocracy.

Of course right wingers always use the "we're a republic, not a democracy" to justify white supremacy and fascism.
 

fwiw, a republican form of government is a subset of the forms of democratic government

It's sorta like how squares are also rectangles while still being squares.
 
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence." ___ Article 4, Section 4, United States Constitution.
 
We are a republic in the form of a representative democracy. That is what article 4, section 4 of the Constitution guarantees to the states and obliges the federal govt to protect for the states.

That is what “Republican form of government” in the text means - representative democracy.

Article 5 has to do with amending the Constitution and holds the higher 2/3rds and 3/4ths levels for such.

@johnwk is just completely wrong in their first paragraph and thread failed right then.
 

I will refer you Nancy Pelosi’s statement: ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. It has everything to do with Trump’s election and the way the MSM uses its words in reporting. You can’t celebrate democracy meaning one thing to one party and another to the other party.
 


CONTEXT for your quote shows that Adams was in favor of democracy despite its flaws.

Did you know that?


 
Republic just means no monarchy. You have access to a dictionary, use it.
From Merriam-Websters...

"republic

noun

re·pub·lic ri-ˈpə-blik

pluralrepublics
Synonyms of republic
1
a
: a government in which the power belongs to a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by the leaders and representatives elected by those citizens to govern according to law"

What's the difference between the American republic and the Peoples Republic of China? Hint- the American republic is a d________y.
 
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yes, republics are one subset of democracies

No. But a subset of a democratic system is apparently more accurate.

James Madison in Federalist Paper No. 10:


“A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place. . . The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: First, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; Secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended.”
 
You aren’t very adept at explaining if you actually understand the words you are pasting here.
 
You aren’t very adept at explaining if you actually understand the words you are pasting here.
James Madison goes on to elaborate the following in Federalist Paper No. 14:

“It is, that in a democracy, the people meet and exercise the government in person; in a republic, they assemble and administer it by their representatives and agents. A democracy, consequently, will be confined to a small spot. A republic may be extended over a large region.”
 
Our government is a democracy. It is a constitutional republic which is a type of democracy.

The UK is also a democravy but not a constitutional republic, it is a parlimentary democracy

Just like a Beagle is a type of dog.

And a german shepherd is also a type of dog, though a german shepherd is not a beagle. They are both dogs.

Take a civics class.
 
HERE'S THE TRICKY BIT:​
In English, a word can have more than a single meaning.
You have to use CONTEXT to decipher which meaning is more appropriate in a given instance.




"democracy" can also refer to what is sometimes called "pure democracy" where everyone votes on the issue instead of a representative democracy where the Electorate elects representatives.
 
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