Why do Wealthy Democrats Hate Diversity?

[concernedpuma]

White progressives/democrats/leftists/liberals, whatever they choose to identify as, are the most racist people on the planet. They only pretend to want to help minorities because they need their votes. Of course, all of this that I have typed goes without saying. Anyone with half a brain understands this. Diversity is for the middle class. Let them eat cake!

What is really troubling is the blind eye some use to view the bigger question. Many of the apologists for the wealthy not only accept "Let them eat cake" they actually aid in the big lie by refusing to see. There is nothing wrong with diversity, since we are all part of that in some fashion, but except for clear cases of prejudice, it should be because it reached its own level. I fail to see much difference in the Economic bigotry and plain old bigotry.
Regards,
CP

 

[Lursa]

What is really troubling is the blind eye some use to view the bigger question. Many of the apologists for the wealthy not only accept "Let them eat cake" they actually aid in the big lie by refusing to see. There is nothing wrong with diversity, since we are all part of that in some fashion, but except for clear cases of prejudice, it should be because it reached its own level. I fail to see much difference in the Economic bigotry and plain old bigotry.
Regards,
CP

What is the bigger question?

 

[Lursa]

Yes, it's the false hypocrisy. It reminds me of this:

I Do Not Think That Word Means What You Think It Means, Hypocrisy Edition

Heh, this is a good quote from that article, thanks.

Apparently you can only be authentic if your politics reflect pure personal self-interest.

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ns-what-you-think-it-means-hypocrisy-edition/

 

[JANFU]

Despite all the glowing praise Democrats have for diversity, their financially privileged members seem to refuse it in their own lives. Some examples include:

But it's not just the mega rich D's who're sheltering away their families from diversity. Writing for the LA Times, Professor Margaret Hagerman conducted research with wealthy progressive parents, and asked this question-

As progressive parents, is their primary responsibility to advance societal values — fairness, equal opportunity and social justice — or to give their children all the advantages in life that their resources can provide?

More often than not, values lost out.

One progressive parent lamented, “I care about social justice, but — I don’t want my kid to be a guinea pig.”

White progressive parents and the conundrum of privilege - Los Angeles Times

Why do wealthy democrats hate diversity in their own lives, and choose to live in white enclaves?

Using Conversion Therapy as that is where the really wealthy Republicans are

 

[concernedpuma]

What is the bigger question?

The bigger question is how someone in power can insist on, and legislate diversity, then are driven home by armed security guards, to their Economic no-go zone, and not admit their hypocrisy. I am not a bigot, nor racist, but expect my leaders to practice what they preach.
Regards,
CP

 

[truthatallcost]

That's not what happened and redlining had nothing to do with qualifications for a loan anyway. Your racism is showing too. You can really see why you are a Trumpist. Your orange god is a huge racist also.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/28/evidence-that-banks-still-deny-black-borrowers-just-as-they-did-50-years-ago/

I didn't invent the figure I used previously-

Half of all black students who took out federal student loans defaulted in 12 years, according to two analyses of new federal data on student borrowers.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...-loan-borrowers-default-new-federal-data-show

If the default rates for other types of loans are even in the same ballpark as for student loans, you should be able to grasp the problem with that.

 

[truthatallcost]

Using Conversion Therapy as that is where the really wealthy Republicans are

OK??

 

[Lursa]

The bigger question is how someone in power can insist on, and legislate diversity, then are driven home by armed security guards, to their Economic no-go zone, and not admit their hypocrisy. I am not a bigot, nor racist, but expect my leaders to practice what they preach.
Regards,
CP

How about all the other things they run on? That they support and give speeches on and donate $ too? Do they have to live *immersed* in those too? (Cancer research, gay marriage...even if not gay...food stamp programs...$$ for the arts (do they have to only have their own art in their homes?), etc etc etc?

Diversity is only one aspect of where one lives. People choose their homes and communities based on many things (this has been written many times in the thread)...

Your claim could only be found to be true if there were diverse communities that offered the exact same other homes and community amenities and they chose to live in them.

Where are these diverse communities?

Or you could just stick with my original statement: are they attempting in anyway to keep diverse people from moving into their neighborhoods? Many of these $$$ enclaves have diverse communities. See: LA, NYC, Miami.

 

[concernedpuma]

How about all the other things they run on? That they support and give speeches on and donate $ too? Do they have to live *immersed* in those too? (Cancer research, gay marriage...even if not gay...food stamp programs...$$ for the arts (do they have to only have their own art in their homes?), etc etc etc?

Diversity is only one aspect of where one lives. People choose their homes and communities based on many things (this has been written many times in the thread)...

Your claim could only be found to be true if there were diverse communities that offered the exact same other homes and community amenities and they chose to live in them.

Where are these diverse communities?

Or you could just stick with my original statement: are they attempting in anyway to keep diverse people from moving into their neighborhoods? Many of these $$$ enclaves have diverse communities. See: LA, NYC, Miami.

Curious you write "they" whom do you think I was writing of, or do you have some sort of built in response?
What about what they give, that's great. I wasn't questioning their tax write off's. I was questioning their base jumping morality. It is amazing to me that anyone of sound judgement, would be willing to make exception to the plutocratic talking heads. Are you inclusive of society, or do you accept the silliness from those you perceive to be your betters?
I am familiar with your writing and precatively reject your hymns of the left. Unless you accept you are a stooge of the psalm singing left, You ought to as well.
Regards,
CP

 

[Lursa]

Curious you write "they" whom do you think I was writing of, or do you have some sort of built in response?
What about what they give, that's great. I wasn't questioning their tax write off's. I was questioning their base jumping morality. It is amazing to me that anyone of sound judgement, would be willing to make exception to the plutocratic talking heads. Are you inclusive of society, or do you accept the silliness from those you perceive to be your betters?
I am familiar with your writing and precatively reject your hymns of the left. Unless you accept you are a stooge of the psalm singing left, You ought to as well.
Regards,
CP

I dont really understand why you and the OP are prioritizing diversity over all the other issues that candidates support...and may or may not immerse themselves in. Perhaps that would help me understand your perspective better.

 

[concernedpuma]

I dont really understand why you and the OP are prioritizing diversity over all the other issues that candidates support...and may or may not immerse themselves in. Perhaps that would help me understand your perspective better.

Well, it may be that Democrats, as defined by their leadership is so hung up on it. IMO diversity in the USA is a given, and a God given gift. To me, and I believe others as well, is just galling that the talking heads of Hollywood are so phony. I reject the do as I say, not what I do dialogue. I wrote earlier that I am familiar with your writings. That is one of the reasons I don't understand you running interference for the elitist.

Regards,
CP

 

[Lursa]

Well, it may be that Democrats, as defined by their leadership is so hung up on it. IMO diversity in the USA is a given, and a God given gift. To me, and I believe others as well, is just galling that the talking heads of Hollywood are so phony. I reject the do as I say, not what I do dialogue. I wrote earlier that I am familiar with your writings. That is one of the reasons I don't understand you running interference for the elitist.

Regards,
CP

Seems like a perspective problem to me. I dont see politicians speaking out for diversity any more than several other issues.

 

[concernedpuma]

Seems like a perspective problem to me. I dont see politicians speaking out for diversity any more than several other issues.

Perhaps so. I don't see any opposing it either. That is the problem, isn't it? Diversity is a fact of life, thankfully so. It only becomes a problem, when the nature of our inclusive nation is split for political gain. It may be only my perspective, but it seems like the left sets up diversity as straw men too often as a diversion from the real problems we have. No political party is perfect, but it seems one has latched onto that as a sole propriety, and that just isn't so. I believe you know by now, I am conservative, but I am also American and respect, and treasure, the world view I gain from diversity.
Regards,
CP

 

[iguanaman]

I didn't invent the figure I used previously-



If the default rates for other types of loans are even in the same ballpark as for student loans, you should be able to grasp the problem with that.

And the price of tea in China is going up and that is more relevant than your post. We have been talking about systematic starvation of capital solely based on location. Try again.

 

[truthatallcost]

And the price of tea in China is going up and that is more relevant than your post. We have been talking about systematic starvation of capital solely based on location. Try again.

Don't businesses have the right to decide where they will and won't conduct commerce? You wouldn't be in favor of mandating that Whole Foods be forced to conduct business in South Central Los Angeles, in order to balance out having a store in Beverly Hills. So why should banks be held to a different standard?

 

[Bodi]

I don't know of anyone of means of any skin color or national origin or political persuasion who would choose to go live in the worst neighborhoods in America. That Democrats, Republicans, Independents, or others of any political persuasion who have means choose to support policies that could help people who do live in the worst neighborhoods in America is fine with me.

But Democrats do the opposite... they move to rich white areas and don't let in people of diversity...

 

[Lursa]

But Democrats do the opposite... they move to rich white areas and don't let in people of diversity...

Post #4. Same question to you:

I didnt realize that 'they' were keeping other groups of people from living in neighborhoods where they want to live. Can you document that for me?

 

[Bodi]

Post #4. Same question to you:

You can't document criminal conspiratorial behavior of racist white Democrats treating black people like nothing more than votes...

 

[Nickyjo]

But Democrats do the opposite... they move to rich white areas and don't let in people of diversity...

Democrats have repealed fair housing laws? This has got to be one of the dumber threads on this forum. Here’s how it works: rich people tend to live in rich neighborhoods... poor people tend to live in poor neighborhoods... many more black people than white people are poor... therefore...

When conservatives start moving into Appalachia, write back.

 

[Lursa]

You can't document criminal conspiratorial behavior of racist white Democrats treating black people like nothing more than votes...

Sure you can. Let's see it.

OTOH, you cant document what doesnt occur :lol:

 

[Bodi]

Democrats have repealed fair housing laws? This has got to be one of the dumber threads on this forum. Here’s how it works: rich people tend to live in rich neighborhoods... poor people tend to live in poor neighborhoods... many more black people than white people are poor... therefore...

When conservatives start moving into Appalachia, write back.

Very few rich black people live in rich white areas...

https://www.vox.com/2017/1/18/14296126/white-segregated-suburb-neighborhood-cartoon

 

[Bodi]

Sure you can. Let's see it.

OTOH, you cant document what doesnt occur :lol:

Why don't you go out and prove that it doesn't exist and get back to me...

 

[Lursa]

Why don't you go out and prove that it doesn't exist and get back to me...

So you cant support your claim? Didnt think so.

 

[Bodi]

So you cant support your claim? Didnt think so.

I explained why it can't be done... sorry that you didn't understand.

Que the ridiculous comeback and statement of a win, or something.

 

[Lursa]

I explained why it can't be done... sorry that you didn't understand.

Que the ridiculous comeback and statement of a win, or something.

Now now, dont pout. I read what you posted for Nickyjo...nowhere in there does it say rich white people are trying to keep diversity out of their communities.

And you didnt explain why it couldnt be documented. You wrote a garbled run-on nonsense sentence:

You can't document criminal conspiratorial behavior of racist white Democrats treating black people like nothing more than votes...

If more than one person is involved ("conspiracy" :roll, there's evidence.

As for winning, you're the one that thinks that's important, not me.

Dont take anything I say too seriously because I want you to experience winning too!! :mrgreen:

I never ever bring up 'winning' in the Internet because I think that's pathetic.