Why do we need to spend $700k/yr....

Lutherf · Mar 19, 2013

....on researching why or if lesbians are more prone to drinking problems?
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8265687&icde=15651405

The link is to spending for this particular program and if you click the "description" tab it will give you a description of the study -
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Studies using both probability and nonprobability samples provide ample evidence of lesbians' vulnerability to hazardous drinking. However, very little is known about the factors that increase lesbians' risk for hazardous drinking. We propose to build on and extend our study of sexual identity and drinking, using both cross-sectional and longitudinal data to model effects of cumulative stress on hazardous drinking among lesbians.

This appears to be a follow up to another study not necessarily focused on lesbians and combined has cost the taxpayer more than $4 Million since 2002.

It just so happens that Ms. Hughes is a member of the Chicago Gay and Lesbian Hall of Fame and although her research began in 2002 her funding, miracle of miracles, doubled in 2009.

penn1954 · Mar 19, 2013

Lutherf said:
....on researching why or if lesbians are more prone to drinking problems?
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8265687&icde=15651405

The link is to spending for this particular program and if you click the "description" tab it will give you a description of the study -
-excerpt-

This appears to be a follow up to another study not necessarily focused on lesbians and combined has cost the taxpayer more than $4 Million since 2002.

It just so happens that Ms. Hughes is a member of the Chicago Gay and Lesbian Hall of Fame and although her research began in 2002 her funding, miracle of miracles, doubled in 2009.

C*** like this is why we have an incomprehensible deficit!!

If the feds would just do constitutional mandated items

without all of this BS we could get our debt in order

relatively easily & quickly!:rantoff:

Mr. Invisible · Mar 19, 2013

If you are trying to implicate Obama, you should actually have evidence rather than wild, baseless accusations.

Lutherf · Mar 19, 2013

Mr. Invisible said:
If you are trying to implicate Obama, you should actually have evidence rather than wild, baseless accusations.

Just pointing out an entertaining coincidence....or something else.

But good of you to jump to his defense so quickly. Maybe he'll send you a cookie.

samsmart · Mar 19, 2013

Lutherf said:
....on researching why or if lesbians are more prone to drinking problems?

Because we never know where scientific studies can lead us, or what it tell us about the people the government governs.

Lutherf · Mar 19, 2013

samsmart said:
Because we never know where scientific studies can lead us, or what it tell us about the people the government governs.

So your answer is "whatever"?

That's brilliant. How about we just take $25 out of your next paycheck and hand it over to me so I can study the nutritional benefits of lunch?

head of joaquin · Mar 19, 2013

Let's not obtain real knowledge about public health issues. Let's be ignorant tea partiers instead.

head of joaquin · Mar 19, 2013

Lutherf said:
So your answer is "whatever"?

That's brilliant. How about we just take $25 out of your next paycheck and hand it over to me so I can study the nutritional benefits of lunch?

But conservatives don't study things. If they did, they wouldn't be conservatives.

This is the "stupid research" meme that tea baggers love to propagate. Here's a concept: knowledge about public health issues based on research not subliterate tea party speculation is a good thing. Deal with it.

CanadaJohn · Mar 19, 2013

head of joaquin said:
But conservatives don't study things. If they did, they wouldn't be conservatives.

This is the "stupid research" meme that tea baggers love to propagate. Here's a concept: knowledge about public health issues based on research not subliterate tea party speculation is a good thing. Deal with it.

Who cares if it's a conservative idea or a liberal idea - it's a dumb idea. What do you think the resulting action of such a study will be? Will it be determined that being a lesbian makes you prone to alcoholism? What's the public health response to such an outcome? Are they going to recommend that lesbians be banned from bars and liquor stores or sent to de-lesbianizing centers for reprogramming?

head of joaquin · Mar 19, 2013

CanadaJohn said:
Who cares if it's a conservative idea or a liberal idea - it's a dumb idea. What do you think the resulting action of such a study will be? Will it be determined that being a lesbian makes you prone to alcoholism? What's the public health response to such an outcome? Are they going to recommend that lesbians be banned from bars and liquor stores or sent to de-lesbianizing centers for reprogramming?

So the real subtext here is that you don't want knowledge about lesbian health issues; if this were a study of heterosexual white male alcoholism, then it would be OK.

I thought so.

Knowledge and science: the enemies of tea partiers everywhere.

AlabamaPaul · Mar 19, 2013

CanadaJohn said:
Who cares if it's a conservative idea or a liberal idea - it's a dumb idea. What do you think the resulting action of such a study will be? Will it be determined that being a lesbian makes you prone to alcoholism? What's the public health response to such an outcome? Are they going to recommend that lesbians be banned from bars and liquor stores or sent to de-lesbianizing centers for reprogramming?

There is also a $1.5M study being conducted to determine why lesbians tend to be obese while gay men are not. Good afternoon jcj...

Eynon · Mar 19, 2013

Lutherf said:
....on researching why or if lesbians are more prone to drinking problems?
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8265687&icde=15651405

The link is to spending for this particular program and if you click the "description" tab it will give you a description of the study -
-excerpt-

This appears to be a follow up to another study not necessarily focused on lesbians and combined has cost the taxpayer more than $4 Million since 2002.

It just so happens that Ms. Hughes is a member of the Chicago Gay and Lesbian Hall of Fame and although her research began in 2002 her funding, miracle of miracles, doubled in 2009.

because they are trying to keep up with the other bikers...boom! now pay me.

Eynon · Mar 19, 2013

AlabamaPaul said:
There is also a $1.5M study being conducted to determine why lesbians tend to be obese while gay men are not. Good afternoon jcj...

booze has a lot of calories.

AlabamaPaul · Mar 19, 2013

Eynon said:
booze has a lot of calories.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe we should suspend one until the other is concluded...

CanadaJohn · Mar 19, 2013

head of joaquin said:
So the real subtext here is that you don't want knowledge about lesbian health issues; if this were a study of heterosexual white male alcoholism, then it would be OK.

I thought so.

Knowledge and science: the enemies of tea partiers everywhere.

I didn't say any such thing - perhaps a study on why liberals are so dense when it comes to reading comprehension would be money well spent.

AlabamaPaul · Mar 19, 2013

CanadaJohn said:
I didn't say any such thing - perhaps a study on why liberals are so dense when it comes to reading comprehension would be money well spent.

Not worth any keystrokes jcj...

CanadaJohn · Mar 19, 2013

AlabamaPaul said:
There is also a $1.5M study being conducted to determine why lesbians tend to be obese while gay men are not. Good afternoon jcj...

Good afternoon V1.1 - hope all is well - This doesn't surprise me one bit - and yet, there is never a spending problem, never waste in government, never government abuse of taxpayer dollars. Why would anyone question why there's such opposition to increases in taxes to pay for things like this.

AlabamaPaul · Mar 19, 2013

CanadaJohn said:
Good afternoon V1.1 - hope all is well - This doesn't surprise me one bit - and yet, there is never a spending problem, never waste in government, never government abuse of taxpayer dollars. Why would anyone question why there's such opposition to increases in taxes to pay for things like this.

You're preaching to the choir, so to say. It is interesting that between these two studies, it would be enough to fund White House tours for approximately six months...

CanadaJohn · Mar 19, 2013

AlabamaPaul said:
You're preaching to the choir, so to say. It is interesting that between these two studies, it would be enough to fund White House tours for approximately six months...

Maybe even White House tours for lesbians who need to lose a little weight. They could spend some time in Michelle's veggie garden and run up and down the stairs a few times too, but the Secret Service will have to guard the liquor cabinet.

samsmart · Mar 19, 2013

Lutherf said:
So your answer is "whatever"?

That's brilliant. How about we just take $25 out of your next paycheck and hand it over to me so I can study the nutritional benefits of lunch?

No.

My answer is that we never know what we can find out from seemingly "meaningless" studies.

Many scientific discoveries have been found out by accident, after all. Which means there is some merit such studies as they can lead to breakthroughs.

As for taking $25 out of my paycheck to pay for it, you can just redirect $25 from government contracts, corporate bailouts, industry subsidies, and the defense budget instead.

head of joaquin · Mar 19, 2013

CanadaJohn said:
I didn't say any such thing - perhaps a study on why liberals are so dense when it comes to reading comprehension would be money well spent.

Conservatives -- always explaning away their various phobias.

If this were a study of white male alcoholism, would that be a "good" study in your tea party catergorization of realityi? Come on, you can fess up.

head of joaquin · Mar 19, 2013

CanadaJohn said:
Maybe even White House tours for lesbians who need to lose a little weight. They could spend some time in Michelle's veggie garden and run up and down the stairs a few times too, but the Secret Service will have to guard the liquor cabinet.

You clearly don't like those lesbians. Why study their health issues after all? I mean it won't help white males stay healthy right? I mean knowledge of alcoholism in a subgroup couldn't possibly shed light on the causes of alcoholism. In teapartyknownothingworld.

head of joaquin · Mar 19, 2013

AlabamaPaul said:
You're preaching to the choir, so to say. It is interesting that between these two studies, it would be enough to fund White House tours for approximately six months...

Scientific studies of health issues -- bad. In teapartyknownothingworld.

CanadaJohn · Mar 19, 2013

head of joaquin said:
Conservatives -- always explaning away their various phobias.

If this were a study of white male alcoholism, would that be a "good" study in your tea party catergorization of realityi? Come on, you can fess up.

No, it wouldn't. I'm not an expert, but I don't believe that race is a predicter of alcoholism not do I believe that sexual orientation is a predicter of alcoholism. I also don't need a study to determine that governments burn money hand over fist on useless, make work studies on nonsense - you, of course, would want to do that study.

CanadaJohn · Mar 19, 2013

head of joaquin said:
You clearly don't like those lesbians. Why study their health issues after all? I mean it won't help white males stay healthy right? I mean knowledge of alcoholism in a subgroup couldn't possibly shed light on the causes of alcoholism. In teapartyknownothingworld.

:yawn: peddle your fake outrage to someone who gives a rat's ass.

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