Why do so many Christians act in most un-Christ like manner?

[Integrityrespec]

Why do so many American Christians act in most un-Christ like ways? Starting with one of the best known issues is that American Christians support public prayer at sports events, town meetings, on TV, and complain that Christian prayers were taken out of public schools But the being they say they worship had other ideas about public prayer

Matthew 6:5-6 NRSV
5 “And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward.
6 But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

I would venture to say that the majority of American Christians support violent self defence. They also often express opposition to government aid for the homeless and needy

Matthew 5:38-42 NIV
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

American Christians bitch and moan about Sleepy Joe's open borders and allowing homeless people to clutter roads and streets in the 'their' cities and towns.

Matthew 25:34 & 43-46 KJV
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

for

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Many American Christians who view themselves as conservative are constantly ranting about socialised medicine and how it takes money away from those who have earned it.

Matthew 10:8-9 NET
8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.
9 Do not take gold, silver, or copper in your belts


So, tell the curious – Why do so many Christians not only act in un-Christ like manner, they actively oppose the efforts of others who are trying to follow the rules of Jesus?
Is a preacher with a private jet, a multi-million dollar estate, holidays at expensive resorts act in a Christ-like manner? Is a preacher calling for the execution of gays, the subservience of women and the imposition of their faith on all Americans acting in a Christ-like manner?

Because man is flawed. That's what repenting, salvation and forgiveness is all about. You say this as if the non christians were not un-christ like, they are.
Just a side note according to studies members of the Christian religions are the most generous and giving of all groups.

Surprisingly, people who volunteer at secular organizations are a bit undergiving, in regressions of the PSID statistics. Meanwhile, persons who volunteer at religious organizations are dramatically bigger donors of money.

Religious practice is the behavioral variable most consistently associated with generous giving. Charitable effort correlates strongly with the frequency with which a person attends religious services. Evangelical Protestants and Mormons in particular are strong givers. Compared to Protestant affiliation, both Catholic affiliation and Jewish affiliation reduce the scope of average giving, when other influences are held constant.

Finer-grain numbers from the PSID show that the faithful don’t just give to religious causes; they are also much more likely to give to secular causes than the non-religious. Among Americans who report that they “never” attend religious services, just less than half give any money at all to secular causes. People who attend services 27-52 times per year, though, give money to secular charities in two thirds of all cases. (See page 1138.)

Who Gives Most to Charity?

From Alaskan bush villages to center-city Manhattan, local-scale philanthropy unfolds every day in nearly all American communities. At first glance this

www.philanthropyroundtable.org

 

[Artymoon]

And some people might use that as an excuse to not try. No point if one is always going to come up short no matter what.

Some people do all sorts of things. Whether you believe in Christ or not, I'd hope one would not think there was no point to things if they knew it was an uphill battle.

Considering it's typically christians who seem sanctimonious or think they know better, then they are not really in a position to preach.

I've known plenty of sanctimonious people from all walks of life, Christians included. As far I am concerned, I will tell you what I believe and leave it at that. I'm no judge and can no more force my beliefs on anyone than I can get a donkey to do calculus.

 

[Blue Dog]

Too many pseudo-Christians are under the false impression they represent genuine people of faith.

Cherry picking the Bible to use as a cudgel makes one no better than the Pharisees…

 

[tshade]

Why do so many American Christians act in most un-Christ like ways? Starting with one of the best known issues is that American Christians support public prayer at sports events, town meetings, on TV, and complain that Christian prayers were taken out of public schools But the being they say they worship had other ideas about public prayer

Matthew 6:5-6 NRSV
5 “And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward.
6 But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

I would venture to say that the majority of American Christians support violent self defence. They also often express opposition to government aid for the homeless and needy

Matthew 5:38-42 NIV
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

American Christians bitch and moan about Sleepy Joe's open borders and allowing homeless people to clutter roads and streets in the 'their' cities and towns.

Matthew 25:34 & 43-46 KJV
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

for

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Many American Christians who view themselves as conservative are constantly ranting about socialised medicine and how it takes money away from those who have earned it.

Matthew 10:8-9 NET
8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.
9 Do not take gold, silver, or copper in your belts


So, tell the curious – Why do so many Christians not only act in un-Christ like manner, they actively oppose the efforts of others who are trying to follow the rules of Jesus?
Is a preacher with a private jet, a multi-million dollar estate, holidays at expensive resorts act in a Christ-like manner? Is a preacher calling for the execution of gays, the subservience of women and the imposition of their faith on all Americans acting in a Christ-like manner?

??? It's called being human. Even the apostles lost faith

 

[Gordy327]

Some people do all sorts of things. Whether you believe in Christ or not, I'd hope one would not think there was no point to things if they knew it was an uphill battle.

That's just it, some people probably do.

I've known plenty of sanctimonious people from all walks of life, Christians included. As far I am concerned, I will tell you what I believe and leave it at that. I'm no judge and can no more force my beliefs on anyone than I can get a donkey to do calculus.

You seem to be an exception then, as many christians are not content to simply "leave it at that."

 

[Artymoon]

That's just it, some people probably do.

Welcome to the human race.

You seem to be an exception then, as many christians are not content to simply "leave it at that."

Not really, that's the vast majority of Christians I know. I do sometimes wonder if people base their view from one or two interactions in their life or just think everyone is Joel Osteen.

 

[tosca1]

Why do so many [scratch]American[/scratch] Christians act in most un-Christ like ways?


So, tell the curious – Why do so many Christians not only act in un-Christ like manner, they actively oppose the efforts of others who are trying to follow the rules of Jesus?
Is a preacher with a private jet, a multi-million dollar estate, holidays at expensive resorts act in a Christ-like manner? Is a preacher calling for the execution of gays, the subservience of women and the imposition of their faith on all Americans acting in a Christ-like manner?

It's not exclusive to Americans!

Why would that be surprising?
It's been foretold in the Bible!

Christians are humans.
Christianity does not mean the devil wouldn't try to tempt you anymore. Perhaps, satan will try his best even more so in tempting a Christian!



Furthermore - it depends on who's criticizing. A lot of critics are actually ignorant of the Scriptures!




Anyway -
you've taken those verses out of context and try to use them for your politics.

If there is no housing available - you try to do your best with what you've got!
Especially so when you're dealing with illegals - which is against the Bible as far as respecting the laws of the land!
How do you explain that to those who patiently waited in line out of respect, and following your immigration laws?

Let me know when they're all starving and dying off on the streets!

 

[Somerville]

??? It's called being human. Even the apostles lost faith

Acting in ways that cause harm to others while preaching about this Jesus fellow and His preachings/teachings is just being human? Can you say HYPOCRISY?

 

[Somerville]

It's not exclusive to Americans!

Why would that be surprising?
It's been foretold in the Bible!

Christians are humans.
Christianity does not mean the devil wouldn't try to tempt you anymore. Perhaps, satan will try his best even more so in tempting a Christian!

I agree "Christians are humans", however, the vast majority of them are also freakin' hypocrites, especially those preachers who rake in millions of dollars for being such good Christians.

Furthermore - it depends on who's criticizing. A lot of critics are actually ignorant of the Scriptures!




Anyway -
you've taken those verses out of context and try to use them for your politics.

If there is no housing available - you try to do your best with what you've got!
Especially so when you're dealing with illegals - which is against the Bible as far as respecting the laws of the land!
How do you explain that to those who patiently waited in line out of respect, and following your immigration laws?

Let me know when they're all starving and dying off on the streets!

If I have taken the "verses out of context" -- please provide us with the appropriate context, without quotes from the Old Testament.

 

[Logicman]

So, tell the curious – Why do so many Christians not only act in un-Christ like manner, they actively oppose the efforts of others who are trying to follow the rules of Jesus?

Have you never read the Bible, Somerville?

1. Didn't Jesus teach that there would be 'wolves in sheep's clothing'? Take Michelle and Barack Obama for instance. Twenty+ years in the church and the stiff-necked reprobates (along with Pelosi, Biden, and that whole crew) helped turn America into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, and push for the mass infanticide of the innocent unborn, etc. You've heard of RINO's? Well, there's a lot of CINO's also.

2. Once saved, it usually takes brand new Christians decades, and even a lifetime, to become more and more like Jesus. It's called PROGRESSIVE SANCTIFICATION - see article below. That's the work of the believer, with the help of the Holy Spirit, to throw off the old sinful nature and become more and more Christ-like. Even then, no one - NO ONE - becomes sinless like Jesus in this lifetime. You call them hypocrites. In reality they're all works in process. And what does the scripture say? 1 John 1:8: "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." Christians are saved, they're not perfect.

Progressive Sanctification | Precept Austin

www.preceptaustin.org

3. If you ever get saved and find a perfect church, don't join it. You'll screw it up.

It doesn't surprise me that once again you attempt to stick a dagger into the heart of Christianity. That's your dysfunctional quest in life, it seems. First of all, you don't understand Christianity. Second, you never focus on the incredible positives of Christians who have built universities, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, homes for unwed mothers, etc., etc., and who have contributed significantly and positively to the arts, science, medicine, and society in general. Why is that? Where's your post on all that??

Glad to answer your question. Study more.

 

[tosca1]

I agree "Christians are humans", however, the vast majority of them are also freakin' hypocrites,

What's new about that?
Don't we know?
Why does the Bible say............ONLY A FEW FIND THE NARROW GATE?

......especially those preachers who rake in millions of dollars for being such good Christians.

Haven't we been warned about wolves in sheep's clothings?

If I have taken the "verses out of context" -- please provide us with the appropriate context, without quotes from the Old Testament.

Hahahahaha

How will you know when I tell you the verse has been taken out of context if I don't provide the evidence - show you the exact verse that's been taken out of context?



Wouldn't you want the evidence?
Why do you sound so afraid of the evidence?

 

[Airyaman]

Time to re-up this one:

 

[Logicman]

Time to re-up this one:

Democrats 2022: Now advancing the perverse, the profane, the unnatural, the slaughter of the innocents, open borders with illegal aliens, fentanyl, criminals and terrorists pouring through; pornography, drag parties for children, confiscating firearms from lawful citizens; disrespect for law enforcement and defunding the police, legalization of illicit drugs, reverse racism / wokeism, social divisions, the abolition of traditional American values and beliefs, antisemitism, godlessness, anti-constitutionalism, the quest for socialism, forced redistribution of wealth, a weakened national defense, massive government growth, raising taxes and hiring 87,000 new IRS agents to get on our backs, pushing single payer healthcare by the government, sanctuary cities for criminals, a massive, plantation-style, government welfare system, regressive progressivism, attacks on religious free speech and Christianity, vitriolic intolerance of conservative beliefs, dogmatism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism, to name a few.

 

[Somerville]

Democrats 2022: Now advancing the perverse, the profane, the unnatural, the slaughter of the innocents, open borders with illegal aliens, fentanyl, criminals and terrorists pouring through; pornography, drag parties for children, confiscating firearms from lawful citizens; disrespect for law enforcement and defunding the police, legalization of illicit drugs, reverse racism / wokeism, social divisions, the abolition of traditional American values and beliefs, antisemitism, godlessness, anti-constitutionalism, the quest for socialism, forced redistribution of wealth, a weakened national defense, massive government growth, raising taxes and hiring 87,000 new IRS agents to get on our backs, pushing single payer healthcare by the government, sanctuary cities for criminals, a massive, plantation-style, government welfare system, regressive progressivism, attacks on religious free speech and Christianity, vitriolic intolerance of conservative beliefs, dogmatism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism, to name a few.

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You do so luv spewing forth the regressive propaganda of the modern-day GOP. Very Christ-like, I must say. Did you know the homicide rate in those California districts that have been reliably Republican is greater than San Francisco's?

Rep. Kevin McCarthy's district has the highest homicide rate in California, more than twice that of Pelosi's district.

 

[Somerville]

What's new about that?
Don't we know?
Why does the Bible say............ONLY A FEW FIND THE NARROW GATE?






Haven't we been warned about wolves in sheep's clothings?









Hahahahaha

How will you know when I tell you the verse has been taken out of context if I don't provide the evidence - show you the exact verse that's been taken out of context?



Wouldn't you want the evidence?
Why do you sound so afraid of the evidence?

Hahahahaha


Looks like you are unable to actually provide support for your claims - not unexpected

 

[Airyaman]

Democrats 2022: Now advancing the perverse, the profane, the unnatural, the slaughter of the innocents, open borders with illegal aliens, fentanyl, criminals and terrorists pouring through; pornography, drag parties for children, confiscating firearms from lawful citizens; disrespect for law enforcement and defunding the police, legalization of illicit drugs, reverse racism / wokeism, social divisions, the abolition of traditional American values and beliefs, antisemitism, godlessness, anti-constitutionalism, the quest for socialism, forced redistribution of wealth, a weakened national defense, massive government growth, raising taxes and hiring 87,000 new IRS agents to get on our backs, pushing single payer healthcare by the government, sanctuary cities for criminals, a massive, plantation-style, government welfare system, regressive progressivism, attacks on religious free speech and Christianity, vitriolic intolerance of conservative beliefs, dogmatism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism, to name a few.

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[Gordy327]

Welcome to the human race.

What a silly species we are.

Not really, that's the vast majority of Christians I know. I do sometimes wonder if people base their view from one or two interactions in their life or just think everyone is Joel Osteen.

Many are like that, many are not. I can point to several right here on DP alone.

 

[nota bene]

The OP is question-begging.

 

[NWRatCon]

The OP is question-begging.

Begging for an answer, it seems...

 

[NWRatCon]

"Why do so many American Christians act in most un-Christ like ways?"

My answer is simple: because they don't understand, or often even read, their own scripture. (There are whole books and videos about what people believe that isn't actually in the Bible.) Instead, they are misled by those who tell them how to believe and they're too lazy to check references.

Being a "good Christian" is hard. Pretending, and just doing what you want to do anyway, is much easier. It may be soul-corrupting, but one can always deal with that later. Ask for forgiveness when it's convenient.

 

[Ginger Ale]

That depends on the Christian you ask...

The JW's hierarchy is some of the worst.

 

[Daisy]

The JW's hierarchy is some of the worst.

lol...yeah, some people are allergic to truth...

 

[Slartibartfast]

Democrats 2022: Now advancing the perverse, the profane, the unnatural, the slaughter of the innocents, open borders with illegal aliens, fentanyl, criminals and terrorists pouring through; pornography, drag parties for children, confiscating firearms from lawful citizens; disrespect for law enforcement and defunding the police, legalization of illicit drugs, reverse racism / wokeism, social divisions, the abolition of traditional American values and beliefs, antisemitism, godlessness, anti-constitutionalism, the quest for socialism, forced redistribution of wealth, a weakened national defense, massive government growth, raising taxes and hiring 87,000 new IRS agents to get on our backs, pushing single payer healthcare by the government, sanctuary cities for criminals, a massive, plantation-style, government welfare system, regressive progressivism, attacks on religious free speech and Christianity, vitriolic intolerance of conservative beliefs, dogmatism, nihilism, and anti-intellectualism, to name a few.

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I think this post is a great example of people confusing their cultural wants for things that have a basis in Christianity.

To cherry pick an example, where is the IRS mentioned in the Bible?

 

[tshade]

Acting in ways that cause harm to others while preaching about this Jesus fellow and His preachings/teachings is just being human? Can you say HYPOCRISY?

?????? I don't know of any Christians that act in ways that harm others??? Can you name one?

 

[Fearandloathing]

Why do so many American Christians act in most un-Christ like ways? Starting with one of the best known issues is that American Christians support public prayer at sports events, town meetings, on TV, and complain that Christian prayers were taken out of public schools But the being they say they worship had other ideas about public prayer

Matthew 6:5-6 NRSV
5 “And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward.
6 But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

I would venture to say that the majority of American Christians support violent self defence. They also often express opposition to government aid for the homeless and needy

Matthew 5:38-42 NIV
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

American Christians bitch and moan about Sleepy Joe's open borders and allowing homeless people to clutter roads and streets in the 'their' cities and towns.

Matthew 25:34 & 43-46 KJV
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

for

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Many American Christians who view themselves as conservative are constantly ranting about socialised medicine and how it takes money away from those who have earned it.

Matthew 10:8-9 NET
8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.
9 Do not take gold, silver, or copper in your belts


So, tell the curious – Why do so many Christians not only act in un-Christ like manner, they actively oppose the efforts of others who are trying to follow the rules of Jesus?
Is a preacher with a private jet, a multi-million dollar estate, holidays at expensive resorts act in a Christ-like manner? Is a preacher calling for the execution of gays, the subservience of women and the imposition of their faith on all Americans acting in a Christ-like manner?

I got clean and sober 35 years ago and began a quest to 'know God".

My journey took me far afield both geographically and religiously.

I became a member of a series of christian churches, all of which had rules, rules I could not find in the bible. Like a ban on women wearing open toed shoes. I went from church to church, the shortest stay about six months. It always came down to one issue, a stand on an issue that is not supported by the Bible and a tendency to deliberately divide. "we won't be like them, they wear open toed shoes!"
One really col church was hip, young and had a great band! They hated gays. No one could ever tell me why? Why should I hate people who have been my friends in sobriety?

In the end, I found a "liberal church" which had a lesbian pastor. But in the end they showed their colors. They supported a local Christian college in its demand that 'gay students refrain from any sexual activity while attending that school." Not all students, just gays.

It was gay men who rallied around me as a newcomer in AA. They became my friends. Good ones. In recovery from mental illness I met more gays and a transgender person who has become a dear friend to the old white guy.

In over 30 years I have not found a direct message on homosexuality. At the time of Jesus it was practiced openly in Greece, Rome and elsewhere yet Jesus makes no comment on it. Twenty two warnings to the rich and proud but not one to homosexuals.

I believe homosexuality became taboo when the Empire of Rome crashed, leaving lonely priests throughout the world who could not marry......