Why did you vote democrat?

[iguanaman]

Why did you vote democrat? give me a reason outside of what the government promises to provide for you with in exchange for your vote?

What does a democrat government do for you beyond give you free sh*t??

Because I don't make over $250,000 a year. The GOP is the party of the 1% and that's how many votes they deserve.
Actually it is only the very dumb and greedy members of the 1% who still vote Republican, the rest know they do better under Democrats even if they pay a little more in taxes.
Greed can make you very shortsighted.

 

[Conservative]

I know what beautiful beaches look like and not a one on the gulf matches the one that i used of surf on(San Onofre). for sure not anything in today's polluted gulf.And as for as seafood,if it makes me post anything like you...well, i guess a tin of sardines and a few crackers will have to do.eace


San Onofre Surfing Club

Your biased opinion noted. My question remains, is this what you are being taught in school, business bad, govt. good?

 

[Donc]

Your biased opinion noted. My question remains, is this what you are being taught in school, business bad, govt. good?

Where did you get the imprecision that i am in school?

 

[Stuckinred]

Who are you to define a liveable wage? Do you have any idea what corporations pay their employees?

Why should any company pay corporate taxes in the first place?

I am waiting for an example of that so called corporate welfare that companies get in the form of a taxpayer check?

Again, do your own research. It's real easy - bring up a Google page and put in Corporate Welfare. God forbid someone actually goes to a library, as I have, and get books to read up on it..........

 

[Conservative]

Again, do your own research. It's real easy - bring up a Google page and put in Corporate Welfare. God forbid someone actually goes to a library, as I have, and get books to read up on it..........

I did it for a living so don't give me that BS. I know what corporations paid their employees but that doesn't answer the question, who are you to decide what a liveable wage is for any employee? Who held a gun to your head to take a job that didn't meet your requirement for a liveable wage? Where does personal responsibility rest in your world?

As for corporate welfare, still waiting for examples of checks issued from the Treasury to the private sector for that corporate welfare?

 

[bitbuckit]

Democrats give free sh*t to poor people, Republicans give free sh*t to rich people, which is why I voted for neither and look forward to the demise of both parties.

Nah, they both give to rich people (can anybody say lobbyists?), what you mean to say is:

They both screw the American people for power and wealth, one side uses the poor as its pawn and the other uses the rich as its pawn.

 

[Stuckinred]

I did it for a living so don't give me that BS. I know what corporations paid their employees but that doesn't answer the question, who are you to decide what a liveable wage is for any employee? Who held a gun to your head to take a job that didn't meet your requirement for a liveable wage? Where does personal responsibility rest in your world?

As for corporate welfare, still waiting for examples of checks issued from the Treasury to the private sector for that corporate welfare?

Garage sales don't count!

 

[Arbo]

Why did you vote democrat? give me a reason outside of what the government promises to provide for you with in exchange for your vote?

What does a democrat government do for you beyond give you free sh*t??

I didn't vote democrat. The reason is because I have a functioning brain.

If I want sh*t, then I will work for it and earn it. Just as my ancestors before me did.

 

[Conservative]

Garage sales don't count!

So you have no evidence of checks going from the taxpayers to private business for that corporate welfare?

 

[Stuckinred]

So you have no evidence of checks going from the taxpayers to private business for that corporate welfare?

You can start with government contracts to military contractors - does the name Halliburton ring a bell? Anyone remember Reagan decrying the "$500.00 hammers" the government was paying military contractors for, with taxpayer money, back in the day? You won't do the research because it's not in your wheelhouse to find out, and that's all you're getting out of me.

 

[Stuckinred]

Nah, they both give to rich people (can anybody say lobbyists?), what you mean to say is:

They both screw the American people for power and wealth, one side uses the poor as its pawn and the other uses the rich as its pawn.

Pretty accurate!

 

[Conservative]

You can start with government contracts to military contractors - does the name Halliburton ring a bell? Anyone remember Reagan decrying the "$500.00 hammers" the government was paying military contractors for, with taxpayer money, back in the day? You won't do the research because it's not in your wheelhouse to find out, and that's all you're getting out of me.

You obviously are someone who has never looked at the budget of the United States. The current expenditures are around 3.8 trillion dollars. Here is the breakdown by category. those $500 hammers came out of the Defense Budget which at the time was 350 billion dollars. Today it is 750 billion dollars. The last Reagan budget was 1.1 trillion dollars so if you want to go back to the Reagan Budgets as well as the Reagan tax rates I will support your efforts.

You don't seem to understand expenses vs. what you call corporate welfare. Expenses are direct payment to contractors, corporate welfare is companies keeping more of what they have already learned.

Dollars in billions

Defense 708.3
International Affairs 45.7
Gen. Science, Space 30.4
Energy 12.1
Natural resources/env 43.3
Agriculture 22.6
Commerce/Housing Cr -13.8
Transportation 93.2
Community Dev 24.9
Education/Train/Social 98.0
Health 372.7
Medicare 485.7
Income Security 599.3
Social Security 730.8
Veterans Benefits 127.2
Justice 56.7
General Govt. 20.7
Net Interest 227.1


Total 3684.9

 

[Stuckinred]

You obviously are someone who has never looked at the budget of the United States. The current expenditures are around 3.8 trillion dollars. Here is the breakdown by category. those $500 hammers came out of the Defense Budget which at the time was 350 billion dollars. Today it is 750 billion dollars. The last Reagan budget was 1.1 trillion dollars so if you want to go back to the Reagan Budgets as well as the Reagan tax rates I will support your efforts.

You don't seem to understand expenses vs. what you call corporate welfare. Expenses are direct payment to contractors, corporate welfare is companies keeping more of what they have already learned.

Dollars in billions

Congratulations! At least now you acknowledge that there IS Corporate Welfare.

 

[Stuckinred]

OK, here's your Corporate Welfare "Get Informed Starter Kit." This is as far as I'm going to hold your hand, conservative!

Corporate Welfare Now a Major Issue

Corporate Welfare Headquarters Corporate Welfare Shame Page

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/commentary/item/12350-corporate-welfare-spending-hits-$100-billion-in-fy-2012

In 2006, Corporate Welfare was doled out (pun intended) at a ratio to 2 to 1 over domestic welfare.....

Welfare Spending Nearly Half What U.S. Forked Out In Corporate Subsidies In 2006: Study

 

[Conservative]

OK, here's your Corporate Welfare "Get Informed Starter Kit." This is as far as I'm going to hold your hand, conservative!

Corporate Welfare Now a Major Issue

Corporate Welfare Headquarters Corporate Welfare Shame Page

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/commentary/item/12350-corporate-welfare-spending-hits-$100-billion-in-fy-2012

In 2006, Corporate Welfare was doled out (pun intended) at a ratio to 2 to 1 over domestic welfare.....

Welfare Spending Nearly Half What U.S. Forked Out In Corporate Subsidies In 2006: Study

Wow, just like a typical liberal and Obama supporter, projected revenue that doesn't get to the govt. is now considered welfare. I want to see the checks written by the Treasury Dept to those companies, Thanks in advance.

 

[Slartibartfast]

because I believe they espouse the best economic and social policy to enhance the quality of life for the vast majority of the US population. Not perfect mind you, but the closest to what I think would create the most prosperity and happiness among the citizenry.

 

[Stuckinred]

Wow, just like a typical liberal and Obama supporter, projected revenue that doesn't get to the govt. is now considered welfare. I want to see the checks written by the Treasury Dept to those companies, Thanks in advance.

But you never called me a liberal? Well, you did it again. Obama supporter now? I give you credit - that's new. I'll send Gary Johnson an email and tell him my vote was with him, but my heart was with Obama. Shez! Where do you people come from?

I at least now know that you're not open to look at the evidence. How the hell can I possibly produce a check written by the Treasury Department. Pill up, my friend!

 

[Conservative]

But you never called me a liberal? Well, you did it again. Obama supporter now? I give you credit - that's new. I'll send Gary Johnson an email and tell him my vote was with him, but my heart was with Obama. Shez! Where do you people come from?

I at least now know that you're not open to look at the evidence. How the hell can I possibly produce a check written by the Treasury Department. Pill up, my friend!

You are the one that claims that the govt. is paying corporate welfare to private companies so you shouldn't have any problem showing me the check. The reason you cannot do that is because it doesn't happen. There are no checks going to private businesses but rather the companies are allowed to write off expenses and thus have less taxable income which in your world is corporate welfare.

 

[Donc]

You are the one that claims that the govt. is paying corporate welfare to private companies so you shouldn't have any problem showing me the check. The reason you cannot do that is because it doesn't happen. There are no checks going to private businesses but rather the companies are allowed to write off expenses and thus have less taxable income which in your world is corporate welfare.

When a state gives a multinational Corp tax breaks for ten years to lure plants from one state to another and when sport franchise build stadiums to keep the teams from moving...well your right, you don't have write a check, but it still goes on the bottom line doesn't it?

 

[Conservative]

When a state gives a multinational Corp tax breaks for ten years to lure plants from one state to another and when sport franchise build stadiums to keep the teams from moving...well your right, you don't have write a check, but it still goes on the bottom line doesn't it?

Any state that recognizes that employees of those companies pay taxes and purchase goods and services which are also taxed. Amazing how tax revenue is so important to you. Why don't you send more of your own money to the govt. and then ask them how much of it they believe you should keep?

 

[Donc]

Any state that recognizes that employees of those companies pay taxes and purchase goods and services which are also taxed. Amazing how tax revenue is so important to you. Why don't you send more of your own money to the govt. and then ask them how much of it they believe you should keep?

are you going to address a post that you quote?ever?:roll:

 

[Conservative]

are you going to address a post that you quote?ever?:roll:

I did answer your post with a great answer that of course you don't understand. You see, you are incapable of thinking beyond the moment and ignore the benefits companies bring to the state that more than offset any tax incentives offered. Apparently you don't understand incentive at all.

 

[Stuckinred]

are you going to address a post that you quote?ever?:roll:

Nope, never. Won't budge even in the face of being locked in a port a pot and setting it on fire and penciled in for a sudden visit from the angle of death. Partisan loyalty is for lame, mindless bankrupt people.

 

[Donc]

I did answer your post with a great answer that of course you don't understand. You see, you are incapable of thinking beyond the moment and ignore the benefits companies bring to the state that more than offset any tax incentives offered. Apparently you don't understand incentive at all.

BUT OF COURSE!!!Its the conservative way, sports teams should all be in the major cities where they get more bang for the buck.Green Bay your now ****ed;i heard LA is looking for a new team and they will give you twenty years of tax incentives if you move next year. but of course we wont write a check for ya.But we are more than willing to discuss a four lane cloverleaf on/off exit from a freeway of your choosing.

Hows that do i have your philosophy down pretty well now?:2wave:

 

[Conservative]

BUT OF COURSE!!!Its the conservative way, sports teams should all be in the major cities where they get more bang for the buck.Green Bay your now ****ed;i heard LA is looking for a new team and they will give you twenty years of tax incentives if you move next year. but of course we wont write a check for ya.But we are more than willing to discuss a four lane cloverleaf on/off exit from a freeway of your choosing.

Hows that do i have your philosophy down pretty well now?:2wave:

What does any of that have to do with corporate welfare checks from the taxpayers to private business? You simply cannot admit that you are wrong and that corporate welfare is nothing more than business keeping more of what they earn. The question is what do they do with that extra money? For you it is all about the money going to the govt. whereas I prefer the money going to the private sector and that is what made this country great.