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Why aren't Americans filling the manufacturing jobs we already have? (2 Viewers)

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This relates to several other threads, but it's an important subject to understand on its own.

"President Trump has been upending the global economy in the name of bringing manufacturing back. President Joe Biden signed into law massive investments aimed at doing something similar. The American manufacturing sector is reviving after decades of decay.

But there's something a bit weird undercutting this movement to reshore factory jobs: American manufacturers say they are struggling to fill the jobs they already have.

According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are nearly half a million open manufacturing jobs right now.
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Part of the story has been a tight labor market. There have been similar worker recruitment and retention issues in other sectors, like construction and transportation. But the shortfall of manufacturing workers is about more than just that — and with both major political parties pushing to reshore manufacturing, analysts expect the industry's workforce issues to get even more challenging.
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The Manufacturing Institute and Deloitte projected that the industry will need 3.8 million additional workers by 2033 and that as many as "1.9 million of these jobs could go unfilled if workforce challenges are not addressed."
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One big reason manufacturers can't fill these jobs overnight is because they require workers to have particular skills. And it's not just skills needed to work on assembly lines. Only around two in five manufacturing jobs are directly involved in making stuff. Manufacturers also employ people to do research and development, engineering, design, finance, sales, marketing, and so on.

Part of the political appeal of bringing manufacturing back is that, historically, they've provided good jobs and career ladders for people without a college education. However, many manufacturing jobs these days actually require college degrees."

Virtually every policy being pursued by the Trump regime will make this issue worse: deporting trained workers and support personnel; gutting incentive programs; undercutting the education system from pre-k to research institutions; bankrupting the companies that employ the majority of these workers.
 
Because public schools have failed to prepare youth for self supporting futures and rat politics have embraced leftist policies that essentially mentally crippled about half of the workforce and convinced them that 1-they are incapable of providing for themselves and 2-they dont have to.

Cut off the free government handouts to the crippled dependent leftists and see how long it takes before they either find work or ****ing starve.
 
NWRatCon said:

This relates to several other threads, but it's an important subject to understand on its own.

"President Trump has been upending the global economy in the name of bringing manufacturing back. President Joe Biden signed into law massive investments aimed at doing something similar. The American manufacturing sector is reviving after decades of decay.

But there's something a bit weird undercutting this movement to reshore factory jobs: American manufacturers say they are struggling to fill the jobs they already have.

According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are nearly half a million open manufacturing jobs right now.
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Part of the story has been a tight labor market. There have been similar worker recruitment and retention issues in other sectors, like construction and transportation. But the shortfall of manufacturing workers is about more than just that — and with both major political parties pushing to reshore manufacturing, analysts expect the industry's workforce issues to get even more challenging.
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The Manufacturing Institute and Deloitte projected that the industry will need 3.8 million additional workers by 2033 and that as many as "1.9 million of these jobs could go unfilled if workforce challenges are not addressed."
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One big reason manufacturers can't fill these jobs overnight is because they require workers to have particular skills. And it's not just skills needed to work on assembly lines. Only around two in five manufacturing jobs are directly involved in making stuff. Manufacturers also employ people to do research and development, engineering, design, finance, sales, marketing, and so on.

Part of the political appeal of bringing manufacturing back is that, historically, they've provided good jobs and career ladders for people without a college education. However, many manufacturing jobs these days actually require college degrees."

Virtually every policy being pursued by the Trump regime will make this issue worse: deporting trained workers and support personnel; gutting incentive programs; undercutting the education system from pre-k to research institutions; bankrupting the companies that employ the majority of these workers.
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Good points. I'd have to think on this one for a bit.

VanceMack said:
Because public schools have failed to prepare youth for self supporting futures and rat politics have embraced leftist policies that essentially mentally crippled about half of the workforce and convinced them that 1-they are incapable of providing for themselves and 2-they dont have to.

Cut off the free government handouts to the crippled dependent leftists and see how long it takes before they either find work or ****ing starve.
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Blaming liberals and public schools is the oldest shtick in the book. Get a new one.
 
VanceMack said:
Cut off the free government handouts to the crippled dependent leftists and see how long it takes before they either find work or ****ing starve.
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During the Pandemic, people got quite a bit of cash, and that may have caused the drop in the Labor Force Participation Rate. (That change reflects a number of people who are of working age but aren't working or looking for work.) But since then prices have gone up about 25%, and some of those folks may be feeling the pinch. In March, 500,000 people rejoined the labor force. All of that tells us that there are experienced people who, for some reason, choose not to work. The right incentives, and the availability of the right jobs, might get them back on the job.

Additionally, of course, the fact is that the people who can and are investing hundreds of billions of dollars in new or expanded manufacturing facilities aren't stupid. They don't build factories for them to sit idle. Maybe they're smarter than people who sit in offices and "study" the issue.
 
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Many of these factory jobs are tedious, are dangerous, or don't pay a living wage.
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All true, but another problem is simply that qualified candidates simply don't exist.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
During the Pandemic, people got quite a bit of cash, and that may have caused the drop in the Labor Force Participation Rate. (That change reflects a number of people who are of working age but aren't working or looking for work.) But since then prices have gone up about 25%, and some of those folks may be feeling the pinch. In March, 500,000 people rejoined the labor force. All of that tells us that there are experienced people who, for some reason, choose not to work. The right incentives, and the availability of the right jobs, might get them back on the job.

Additionally, of course, the fact is that the people who can and are investing hundreds of billions of dollars in new or expanded manufacturing facilities aren't stupid. They don't build factories for them to sit idle. Maybe they're smarter than people who sit in offices and "study" the issue.
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As this college year draws to a close, I hope that within the next few years the 5-6000 new graduates of liberal arts programs will realize that there are only about 1500 new barista jobs open in any given year and that the concept of a 'living wage' is just a leftist fairy tale...and at some point...those people will realize they need to find a real job.
 
This is just another example of shortsidedness among many Americans who expect change can occur overnight.
 
Phys251 said:
Good points. I'd have to think on this one for a bit.



Blaming liberals and public schools is the oldest shtick in the book. Get a new one.
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He will make up about anything in defense of his Trump loyalty. It's mendacious nonsense, but he doesn't care about that.
 
VanceMack said:
Because public schools have failed to prepare youth for self supporting futures and rat politics have embraced leftist policies that essentially mentally crippled about half of the workforce and convinced them that 1-they are incapable of providing for themselves and 2-they dont have to.

Cut off the free government handouts to the crippled dependent leftists and see how long it takes before they either find work or ****ing starve.
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meanwhile, irl

"Carolyn Lee, the president and executive director of the Manufacturing Institute, says that roughly half of the open positions in manufacturing require at least a bachelor's degree."
 
VanceMack said:
Because public schools have failed to prepare youth for self supporting futures and rat politics have embraced leftist policies that essentially mentally crippled about half of the workforce and convinced them that 1-they are incapable of providing for themselves and 2-they dont have to.

Cut off the free government handouts to the crippled dependent leftists and see how long it takes before they either find work or ****ing starve.
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What part of your Bible is this from? Your sense of ethics is twisted.
 
I notice the reflexive need of Trumpluddites to derail any thread that criticizes dear leader. The stupidity just floods the zone.
 
This bullshit tariff war was never about jobs. We have an incredible number of manufacturing (and associated industry) jobs that we can’t fill on any given day.
 
VanceMack said:
Because public schools have failed to prepare youth for self supporting futures and rat politics have embraced leftist policies that essentially mentally crippled about half of the workforce and convinced them that 1-they are incapable of providing for themselves and 2-they dont have to.

Cut off the free government handouts to the crippled dependent leftists and see how long it takes before they either find work or ****ing starve.
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This post is driven by conspiracy theories and a psychological need to spew nonsense.
 
Cause there's an irrational nationalistic nostalgia for manufacturing that isn't borne out by reality. A lot people SAY America would be better off if we bring back manufacturing, but few Americans say they themselves would be better off if they worked in a factory.
 
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A single mom just bought a house across the street from me a few months ago. No expensive degrees ( 2 years Tidewater community college) She's and my wife are gardening pals, and her 10 year old boy is a golf nut. I take him to the "First Tee" course a couple times a week.

She's been working at the Virginia Beach Stihl factory for 7 years and is now a supervisor in assembly.

Of course the usual lazy ass Debate Politics deadbeat liberals will say it's bullshit.
 
VanceMack said:
As this college year draws to a close, I hope that within the next few years the 5-6000 new graduates of liberal arts programs will realize that there are only about 1500 new barista jobs open in any given year and that the concept of a 'living wage' is just a leftist fairy tale...and at some point...those people will realize they need to find a real job.
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Moving the goal posts? Those arent the people looking for or needing jobs in entry-level and boots-on-the-ground manufacturing.
 
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