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What if we’re all alone?It sounds like, from this article, that the universe is predisposed towards evolving life, just not merging it on planetary scales.
There's a reason why aliens haven’t visited Earth yet, say scientists
The Fermi paradox questions why aliens have never visited Earth despite the Universe being so old and so vast that races should have evolved interstellar travel and come calling by now.news.yahoo.com
According to a new hypothesis posed by Dr Wong and Dr Bartlett: “We propose a new resolution to the Fermi paradox: civilizations either collapse from burnout or redirect themselves to prioritizing homeostasis, a state where cosmic expansion is no longer a goal, making them difficult to detect remotely.
“Either outcome — homeostatic awakening or civilization collapse — would be consistent with the observed absence of (galactic-wide) civilizations.”
The pair argue that the general principles of life are universal and that although the emergence and evolution of life on other planets remains speculative, it may be inevitable.
Edit: I was contemplating my navel and reading the (short) article while formulating my lengthy reply and missed the previous replies…….What if we’re all alone?
It might come down to the fact that the distances are too great. Any civilization planning a visit would have to commit to embarking on a journey that their own great, great, great, great, great grandchildren might never make it to. What's the attraction to that?It sounds like, from this article, that the universe is predisposed towards evolving life, just not merging it on planetary scales.
There's a reason why aliens haven’t visited Earth yet, say scientists
The Fermi paradox questions why aliens have never visited Earth despite the Universe being so old and so vast that races should have evolved interstellar travel and come calling by now.news.yahoo.com
According to a new hypothesis posed by Dr Wong and Dr Bartlett: “We propose a new resolution to the Fermi paradox: civilizations either collapse from burnout or redirect themselves to prioritizing homeostasis, a state where cosmic expansion is no longer a goal, making them difficult to detect remotely.
“Either outcome — homeostatic awakening or civilization collapse — would be consistent with the observed absence of (galactic-wide) civilizations.”
The pair argue that the general principles of life are universal and that although the emergence and evolution of life on other planets remains speculative, it may be inevitable.
I agree that the interstellar distances make the physics of star travel unrealistic. And planetary resources limit civilizations' expansions.It might come down to the fact that the distances are too great. Any civilization planning a visit would have to commit to embarking on a journey that their own great, great, great, great, great grandchildren might never make it to. What's the attraction to that?
….and we are acting like we are playing with house money.Take my word for it. We're pretty damn fortunate to even exist. It takes a tremendous amount of luck to have a planet at the right distance from it's sun, To have larger planets further out to absorb most of the killer asteroids and other planet-killing crap in the formation of a system, to have a large enough moon that stabilizes it's planet's seasons.
(imagine if the earth's seasons changed often....90 degrees at one place, 2000 years later..-45 degrees...life would never have a chance to form) plus, the solar system is fairly out in the boondocks...NOT toward the center of the galaxy, where neutron stars would kill everything on a regular basis...and a wonderful extremely stable Sun.. ..and much more. We lucked up bigtime.
What if we’re all alone?
It might come down to the fact that the distances are too great. Any civilization planning a visit would have to commit to embarking on a journey that their own great, great, great, great, great grandchildren might never make it to. What's the attraction to that?
If you could time travel and took principles of physics back a few hundred years, they would burn you at the stake.I agree that the interstellar distances make the physics of star travel unrealistic. And planetary resources limit civilizations' expansions.
I read the article - I did find it interesting.It sounds like, from this article, that the universe is predisposed towards evolving life, just not merging it on planetary scales.
There's a reason why aliens haven’t visited Earth yet, say scientists
The Fermi paradox questions why aliens have never visited Earth despite the Universe being so old and so vast that races should have evolved interstellar travel and come calling by now.news.yahoo.com
According to a new hypothesis posed by Dr Wong and Dr Bartlett: “We propose a new resolution to the Fermi paradox: civilizations either collapse from burnout or redirect themselves to prioritizing homeostasis, a state where cosmic expansion is no longer a goal, making them difficult to detect remotely.
“Either outcome — homeostatic awakening or civilization collapse — would be consistent with the observed absence of (galactic-wide) civilizations.”
The pair argue that the general principles of life are universal and that although the emergence and evolution of life on other planets remains speculative, it may be inevitable.
Not limiting them to our principles but probably limited to the same universal factors.If you could time travel and took principles of physics back a few hundred years, they would burn you at the stake.
The point I am trying to make is that you are limiting “aliens” to our principles of physics.
That is what I was driving at. What modern man has invented/discovered would be taken for heresy in a past age.Not limiting them to our principles but probably limited to the same universal factors.
I believe in time, if there's enough left, humans would stumble across a solution to distant space travel.
Amen to that. It's like someone/something gave us a delicate gift and we left it out in the backyard, so the dogs could play with it.….and we are acting like we are playing with house money.
I'm not sure what you're driving at?That is what I was driving at. What modern man has invented/discovered would be taken for heresy in a past age.
What “universal factors” were prevalent in the 1400s? There were some theories and some of those weren’t received well.
What I am trying to say is any civilization “out there,” we seem to think that they are more technologically advanced than we are. Flying saucers and UFO and the like. If there are any other beings, why do you think they haven’t solved things like efficient space travel? If you took a firearm back to the Stone Age you would be thought to be a god or a sorcerer.I'm not sure what you're driving at?
What I am trying to say is any civilization “out there,” we seem to think that they are more technologically advanced than we are. Flying saucers and UFO and the like. If there are any other beings, why do you think they haven’t solved things like efficient space travel? If you took a firearm back to the Stone Age you would be thought to be a god or a sorcerer.
”Not limiting them to our principles but probably limited to the same universal factors.”
What if “they” had moved beyond what we think are “limits” on science and technology and even physics as we understand it……
There are things we take for granted, today, that out grandparents could not dream of. There have been many people who have thought that we had reached the limits of what can be achieved.That is physically impossible. If they exist in the same physical universe they are subject to the same physical limitations. No matter how advanced their technology may be, it cannot move beyond physical restrictions that limit space travel.
Agreed. It's conceivable that some other civilization had up to a 7 Billion year head start on us. So to say that our ability to manipulate physics within the universe is in an infant stage is significantly overstating our ability.If you could time travel and took principles of physics back a few hundred years, they would burn you at the stake.
The point I am trying to make is that you are limiting “aliens” to our principles of physics.
That is a brilliantly stated observation!….and we are acting like we are playing with house money.
? They're already here.It sounds like, from this article, that the universe is predisposed towards evolving life, just not merging it on planetary scales.
There's a reason why aliens haven’t visited Earth yet, say scientists
The Fermi paradox questions why aliens have never visited Earth despite the Universe being so old and so vast that races should have evolved interstellar travel and come calling by now.news.yahoo.com
According to a new hypothesis posed by Dr Wong and Dr Bartlett: “We propose a new resolution to the Fermi paradox: civilizations either collapse from burnout or redirect themselves to prioritizing homeostasis, a state where cosmic expansion is no longer a goal, making them difficult to detect remotely.
“Either outcome — homeostatic awakening or civilization collapse — would be consistent with the observed absence of (galactic-wide) civilizations.”
The pair argue that the general principles of life are universal and that although the emergence and evolution of life on other planets remains speculative, it may be inevitable.
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