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Who's a good gun control debater.

Adding more and more deadly guns with few real restrictions doesn't help.
based on the millions upon millions of guns that have been purchased legally in the last 25 years combined with no real increase in violent crime, it doesn't "hurt" either
 
If the Democrats didn't agree with every single term in that bill it wouldn't be in that bill.
Absolute utter nonsense. That is NOT how politics work
 
Of course you can. My point is no one ever argues about the passport fee but that is a right too
Passports let's you travel to other countries. There isn't a right to visit those countries unless you're seeking assylum.
 
Passports let's you travel to other countries. There isn't a right to visit those countries unless you're seeking assylum.
Passports allow you to enter the country as is my right. A right I have to pay a big fee for
 
Passports allow you to enter the country as is my right. A right I have to pay a big fee for
Then as a US citizen, you shouldn't have to pay a burdensome fee to come back to the states.
 
Then as a US citizen, you shouldn't have to pay a burdensome fee to come back to the states.
Well you fix that and get back to me on the background check fees
 
Then as a US citizen, you shouldn't have to pay a burdensome fee to come back to the states.
Well, the Democrats felt we should. No surprise there, if you look at the history of passports and immigration.
 
Again utter nonsense
From 1776 to 1783, no state government had a passport requirement. The Articles of Confederation government (1783–1789) did not have a passport requirement. From 1789 through late 1941, the government established under the Constitution required United States passports of citizens only during the American Civil War (1861–1865) and during and shortly after World War I (1914–1918). The passport requirement of the Civil War era lacked statutory authority. After the outbreak of World War I, passports were required by executive order,[20] though there was no statutory authority for the requirement. The Travel Control Act of May 22, 1918 permitted the president, when the United States was at war, to proclaim a passport requirement, and a proclamation was issued on August 18, 1918.[21] Though World War I ended on November 11, 1918, the passport requirement lingered until March 3, 1921.[22] There was an absence of a passport requirement under United States law between 1921 and 1941. World War II (1939–1945) again led to passport requirements under the Travel Control Act of 1918. A 1978 amendment to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 made it illegal to enter or depart the United States without an issued passport even in peacetime.

Congress was controlled by Democrats in 1978.
 
From 1776 to 1783, no state government had a passport requirement. The Articles of Confederation government (1783–1789) did not have a passport requirement. From 1789 through late 1941, the government established under the Constitution required United States passports of citizens only during the American Civil War (1861–1865) and during and shortly after World War I (1914–1918). The passport requirement of the Civil War era lacked statutory authority. After the outbreak of World War I, passports were required by executive order,[20] though there was no statutory authority for the requirement. The Travel Control Act of May 22, 1918 permitted the president, when the United States was at war, to proclaim a passport requirement, and a proclamation was issued on August 18, 1918.[21] Though World War I ended on November 11, 1918, the passport requirement lingered until March 3, 1921.[22] There was an absence of a passport requirement under United States law between 1921 and 1941. World War II (1939–1945) again led to passport requirements under the Travel Control Act of 1918. A 1978 amendment to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 made it illegal to enter or depart the United States without an issued passport even in peacetime.

Congress was controlled by Democrats in 1978.
And since 1978 no republican has ever tried to eliminate the fees.


As I said utter nonsense
 
Yes they can be, the question is whether they should be.

Do you support allowing red states to charge women abortion fees?
What is the purpose of passport fees, and what would the purpose of fees associated with gun ownership?
 
Yes they can be, the question is whether they should be.

Do you support allowing red states to charge women abortion fees?
Give me a reason for it. The fee is to pay for services by the government. The government does not conduct abortions.

How about a fee per post by you?
 
based on the millions upon millions of guns that have been purchased legally in the last 25 years combined with no real increase in violent crime, it doesn't "hurt" either
Oh yeah? How do you know?

I don't think so. There would likely be less gun violence if there were less loose guns.

Maybe you can use your gun knowledge to tell us how "improvements" in guns over those 25 years (or more) have or have not made "incidents" of gun violence worse.
 
Oh yeah? How do you know?

I don't think so. There would likely be less gun violence if there were less loose guns.

Maybe you can use your gun knowledge to tell us how "improvements" in guns over those 25 years (or more) have or have not made "incidents" of gun violence worse.
We've had semiautomatic rifles with "large capacity" magazines since 1905. What improvements are you referring to?
 
Oh yeah? How do you know?

I don't think so. There would likely be less gun violence if there were less loose guns.

Maybe you can use your gun knowledge to tell us how "improvements" in guns over those 25 years (or more) have or have not made "incidents" of gun violence worse.
IN any free society there will be people who break the law. The fact is, while there are at least 30 million more semi auto rifles in circulation than there were under Clinton, the amount of killings has not really gone up. There would clearly be less gun violence if those who commit gun violence were locked away until they were too old to engage in criminal behavior. The problem with this debate is this-many of those who squawk about crime control really aren't all that interested in the subject unless the "solution" involves harassing honest gun owners.
 
The purpose of fees regarding gun ownership would be to deter gun ownership.
the 200 dollar NFA tax is ADMITTED In ATF pamphlets as being designed to create a de facto ban on those weapons.
 
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