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Who is giving up values for profit? If the consumer did not want to go to a store on a Thanksgiving they wouldn't. If enough people did not shop on the holiday, the store would not be open.
It is also interesting raising the "value" stance. Some think its manditory or ok for police/fire/medical to work on a holiday. Yet, it is sinister for a retail or food store to be open.
If Whole Foods feels that is in their best economic interests, they can do so. What, I thought you believed in freedom.
Fortunately, Whole Foods isn't going to do that because they have more business sense than you do.
Interesting question! :thumbs:
Not everyone gets time and a half. I have worked on national holidays at Trader Joe's and they do not give time and a half.
Yeah, Liberals are all rich. Like these "f'n wage-scrubs" that work at Whole Foods. I bet some of them even get paid minimum wage. It's Marxism I tell ya!
Comparing emergency workers to retail doesn't work.
My whole point about values is, if people are fine with other people working on holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving for the sake of convenience, then put your values where your mouth is and be willing to work too. I've a feeling people would change their tune if their own place of business sacrifices holiday for profits. I would ask them why anyone should get the day off at all?
How dare people dislike something and then act to change a thing they dislike. That's messed up, man.
I don't agree that it's strikeworthy, but they shouldn't be forced to work Thanksgiving.
Somebody's got to work on Thanksgiving. The world can't just grind to a halt on a holiday.
will the world grind to a halt if you have to wait until tomorrow to buy a TV?
Yeah, Whole Foods is the man. You should bone up on your friends and enemies to the cause list. :lamo
I dunno - if some liberal diva decides she needs some Spicy Wine Mustard for her turkey sandwich later tomorrow, those damn peons better open up and let her in or there's gonna be hell to pay.
So, the corollary to your rant would be that no one should be allowed to work on a holiday if not all people are expected or required to work on a holiday. Correct? So that single college student who loves getting paid double time to work 8 hours on Thanksgiving and then go home to dinner with the family after work should be forced not to work or receive that benefit.
There was a time when it was illegal to work on holidays or even work on Sundays - you want to go back to those days, do you? We are putting our values where our mouths are, right?
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
I'm saying if business wants to make profit on a holiday, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Also, it seems to me these employees did not wish to take the overtime pay. They wanted to spend it with family otherwise they wouldn't strike.
Good morning Lady P - aren't you supposed to be slaving over a hot stove about now?
Or are you striking for higher wages?
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
Three points:
1. In many retail businesses, the owner of the store also works on the holiday and is often part of the sales crew to cut down on overhead costs - so, in your example, the gander is working so all the little worker goslings must work too, if asked.
2. When I was working, it was a pain sometimes to work on a Friday - those long weekends were great - according to you, I should just be able to book off every Friday to satisfy my needs, not the needs of my employer.
3. Those businesses, government, etc. who give their employees the Friday off after Thanksgiving Day should be forced to haul their employees in and make them work because lots of other people work on that day - or do you consider the days after a holiday to be sacred, non-work allowed days?
Three points:
1. In many retail businesses, the owner of the store also works on the holiday and is often part of the sales crew to cut down on overhead costs - so, in your example, the gander is working so all the little worker goslings must work too, if asked.
2. When I was working, it was a pain sometimes to work on a Friday - those long weekends were great - according to you, I should just be able to book off every Friday to satisfy my needs, not the needs of my employer.
3. Those businesses, government, etc. who give their employees the Friday off after Thanksgiving Day should be forced to haul their employees in and make them work because lots of other people work on that day - or do you consider the days after a holiday to be sacred, non-work allowed days?
Do you ever go to a movie on Thanksgiving or Christmas?
Not to mention they get time and a half working holidays. It's a shift a lot of folks in retail volunteer for, or used to when I worked retail.
Nope. We watch any of the hundreds of movies we have. We eat. We laugh. We sing songs. We basically spend time with each other. Tough concept to grasp for the majority of people today.
Funny you say that, since US conservatives and Republicans have been looking down (and spitting upon) the "masses" that don't pay income taxes.You didn't catch me saying all liberals are rich - those are your words. But the ones who are rich are often the snotty ones like Bloomburg or any number of Hollywood types who can't wait to look down on the masses and put them in their place.
Gipper used the phrase, in the first post of this thread.And you didn't catch me saying the workers at Whole Foods are "f'n wage scrubs" - those are your words.
None of that excludes the option by employees to protest when faced with what they regard as unfair (or unsafe) working conditions. The fact that you agree to work somewhere does not mean you surrender unilaterally to your employer on every point.I honor all work but I expect people to honor their work commitment, that being to work the hours they agreed to when hired, the hours assigned, and for the wages they agreed to when hired or any such additional monies they have been granted through hard work or promotion.
You also get what you're willing to fight for. If employees can get together and fight (peacefully) to get a holiday off, good on them.You get what you deserve and you deserve what you get unless you're willing to improve yourself and your value to someone who wants to buy your services.
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