Biden. Not nearly as much as Romney beat Obama, but still; Biden. The question now is how much his behavior will Al-Gore-sigh-like negate his victory.
Stuff like raising taxes to upper 40%, first off no one is paying over 40% federal tax period even with ending Bush tax cuts. 2nd effective tax rates after deductions is more around lower 20% right now and will probably not even go over 25% average for any bracket, though some people may not take any deductions and pay maximum of slightly under 40%. Throwing around big, completely baseless numbers to scare people.
$700+ Billion dollars take out of medicare, every penny was put back.
Various other things I don't recollect. Ryan agreed 1/4-1/3 of the time, the rest was pretty much all flat out lies that were way beyond the "stretch" limit.
Obama and Biden stretched the truth too obviously, but there's arguments to be made. Obama's 5 Trillion tax cut is the closes thing to a lie. Romney said a few lies about medicare but at least it's part of their platform and I believe some money was temporarily taken out but was put back in once things were sorted out. Again didn't flat out lie over half the time. Ryan probably lied more than all 3 of them combined.
What kills me is people that haven't done the research couldn't tell the difference.
Didn't say that, it matters how much you stretch it. If it breaks and becomes indefensible from any perspective, it's lying. There is a difference between misleading/stretching the truth and flat out lying. Ryan lied a lot more than any of the other 3, this includes Romney.
Stuff like raising taxes to upper 40%, first off no one is paying over 40% federal tax period even with ending Bush tax cuts. 2nd effective tax rates after deductions is more around lower 20% right now and will probably not even go over 25% average for any bracket, though some people may not take any deductions and pay maximum of slightly under 40%. Throwing around big, completely baseless numbers to scare people.
$700+ Billion dollars take out of medicare, every penny was put back.
Various other things I don't recollect. Ryan agreed 1/4-1/3 of the time, the rest was pretty much all flat out lies that were way beyond the "stretch" limit.
Obama and Biden stretched the truth too obviously, but there's arguments to be made. Obama's 5 Trillion tax cut is the closes thing to a lie. Romney said a few lies about medicare but at least it's part of their platform and I believe some money was temporarily taken out but was put back in once things were sorted out. Again didn't flat out lie over half the time. Ryan probably lied more than all 3 of them combined.
What kills me is people that haven't done the research couldn't tell the difference.
A lot of people seem to think Biden won this...But did he really win the debate if his botched response to the embassy attack and his constant laughing is dominating the news?
Biden. Not nearly as much as Romney beat Obama, but still; Biden. The question now is how much his behavior will Al-Gore-sigh-like negate his victory.
You sound just like Biden...
Repeat a lie, repeat a lie, repeat a lie, repeat a lie, repeat a lie.
How about that, it's still not true.
Biden acted like a 3 yr old. One would think we would have someone more presidential for VP.
I think Joe walked over the moderator, took control and won.
I just watched it today and clearly Biden commanded the debate. However it was still fairly close and both of these guys are sharp as a tac. Did anyone else have the feeling that these guys knew more about what they were talking about though than their bosses or is it just me?
Sorry.....not a lie....its been part of Romney's platform for the last 6 months. Except he calls it tax cuts to "job creators". Sorry.....but just because Romney calls the wealthy "job creators" doesn't change the facts. Get a clue.
LOL....Biden completely schooled Ryan. He made Ryan look like a little school boy that was caught with his pants down.
too bad your posts lack any logic or facts...
well, that's what they needed to do, right there. Figuring they wouldn't lose any independents from the VP debate, they needed Biden to act like an ass to fire up the base.
The facts are out there for anyone who takes the time to look. You obviously have spent little time paying attention for the last 6 months...but I would expect nothing less from someone of your ilk.
Have you been paying attention? Biden won in a landslide (20+ Points) among independents. Looks like the only "base" that got fired up by Ryan was the extreme right-wing nutjobs. To everyone else, Ryan looked throughly overmatched and came across like a little school boy.
LOL....Biden completely schooled Ryan. He made Ryan look like a little school boy that was caught with his pants down.
The facts are out there for anyone who takes the time to look. You obviously have spent little time paying attention for the last 6 months...but I would expect nothing less from someone of your ilk.
Biden won by 20 points? where in China?... Russia? Iran?...
LOL....Biden completely schooled Ryan. He made Ryan look like a little school boy that was caught with his pants down.
I await the big huge Obama / Biden pump in the polls, let me know when it happens.
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