Who wants to defend these Marines actions?

[MamboDervish]

Nope, that video was shot intentionally. Why else would you try to get past several Marines preventing that action?

I have every reason to conclude it was staged, get themselves on social media. It worked.

As I suspected. All conjecture - no proof.

 

[OrphanSlug]

As I suspected. All conjecture - no proof.

Nor do you have any proof it was some accidental encounter of someone on their way to grandma's house... with someone behind them ensuing social media video is at the ready.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Looks like the Wilshire Federal Building. The yellow tape suggests the grounds have been closed for the weekend.

That was a yellow ribbon, not yellow tape.

Yellow ribbon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

US Marines are not trained for crowd control or domestic law enforcement duties.

Trump is in violation of US law for ordering Marines to Los Angeles.

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But violating US law and Constitutional rights is becoming de rigueur for the Trump administration.

 

[MamboDervish]

Nor do you have any proof it was some accidental encounter of someone on their way to grandma's house...

OF COURSE I DON'T !! How do you still not get the point of that comment? Too subtle for you?

with someone behind them ensuing social media video is at the ready.

 

[OrphanSlug]

OF COURSE I DON'T !! How do you still not get the point of that comment? Too subtle for you?

Yet you are here, defending it, pretending that was about something else.

 

[Tangmo]

I'm not sure what this is about but one thing I am sure of is this is not the fault of the Marines

True but it's also too obvious.

A "hooded" woman wanting to cross the bridge that is closed to the public. She is prevented from making this mistake by goodie two shoes Marines and without incident. Clearly no harm is done involving Marines. Nobody lost teeth getting smashed with a rifle butt. No one was shot, bayonetted or hog tied while forcibly prone on the ground and dragged away.

I'm not saying the Marines are in on this fluff stuff, because all it takes is for the "hooded" person to know to make a calm and innocent play to cross the bridge then cooperate entirely to turn around and walk away from it. No harm done. The Marines who are in fact well disciplined and restrained are also boy and girl scouts preventing innocent civilians crossing where they shouldn't. Harmless. What's to worry? Marines who hate being in the streets of America are good!

I don't put anything past Homan and Trump. Never have in fact.

 

[MamboDervish]

Yet you are here, defending it, pretending that was about something else.

NO - WRONG AGAIN! Do you ever get anything right? I'm here illustrating that there might have been a thousand reasons why that woman was there, and that you still have no proof whatsoever it was because of your as-of-yet unfounded accusation. Let us all know when that finally sinks in. Or don't bother. I have no more time to educate you today on your folly.

Ta-ta ...

 

[gman]

It’s clearly a staged confrontation for propaganda purposes. The only problem is that whoever scripted this didn’t get his desired result which was a strong arm response. The marines acted in accordance with their usual discipline . Good for them they didn’t fall for the entrapment.

 

[OrphanSlug]

NO - WRONG AGAIN! Do you ever get anything right? I'm here illustrating that there might have been a thousand reasons why that woman was there, and that you still have no proof whatsoever it was because of your as-of-yet unfounded accusation. Let us all know when that finally sinks in. Or don't bother. I have no more time to educate you today on your folly.

Ta-ta ...

Other than we know about it... because someone was there to ensure that.

 

[Tangmo]

Their commanding officers, derp.

Why don't you name names of the Marines you're criticizing.

As I've posted in scrolling I don't believe the Marines and their commanding officers on the ground were in on this. I'd believe Homan and his ICE goons would know the Marines would be disciplined and restrained in turning away the person from crossing the bridge. I'd be sure Homan counted on this to go the way it in fact went. It was not a gamble for Homan or some kind of wild and baseless idea for the Marines to be gentlemen about it if not scholars.

 

[Logophile]

Marines prevent a civilian from crossing a bridge in Los Angeles​

Is this really the best use of our armed forces, interfering with civilians just trying to cross a bridge? What did this woman do to deserve this behavior from our military who shouldn't even be there?

Before spouting off defending the Marines, watch the video of this apparent domestic terrorist.

Marines prevent a civilian from crossing a bridge in Los Angeles

U.S. Marines stationed in Los Angeles stopped a woman wearing a hooded jacket from crossing a bridge on Friday. The presence of Marines comes after protests erupted last week over immigration raids.

www.yahoo.com

The marines behaved well. They were following orders and calmly kept the woman off the bridge. Don't you know anything about the military?? The way you sounded, I thought they had done something awful. It was just the opposite. A dumb piece trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill

 

[Tangmo]

It’s clearly a staged confrontation for propaganda purposes. The only problem is that whoever scripted this didn’t get his desired result which was a strong arm response. The marines acted in accordance with their usual discipline . Good for them they didn’t fall for the entrapment.

Yes.

Homan and his ICE goons were confident with good reason the skilled and disciplined Marines would handle the situation perfectly, which is in fact how it happened. Indeed, no resistance was in the plan and scheme. The "hooded" person that is a cliche' used in training did all but salute the Marines.

I never put anything past Homan and Trump and this is both scripted and spontaneous in accord with the script. Too many of us see this in this way for it not to be true.

 

[bongsaway]

That is a lame attempt to suggest that action was all about a shortcut to somewhere else.

This was about making a point, it worked.

You don't know that. It's a guess just like everybody who guesses as to her intent.

 

[OrphanSlug]

You don't know that. It's a guess just like everybody who guesses as to her intent.

Just so I am clear, the action of the Marines can be judged but the actions of someone trying to get past them cannot?

 

[bongsaway]

Just so I am clear, the action of the Marines can be judged but the actions of someone trying to get past them cannot?

Sure judge away just don't think you are correct in your assumptions, it's an opinion, nothing more. I can see these marines are purposely blocking this person from crossing. Can you or are you assuming her actions were entirely to get on social media? Maybe she was only proving her opinions of what was happening?

 

[OrphanSlug]

Sure judge away just don't think you are correct in your assumptions, it's an opinion, nothing more. I can see these marines are purposely blocking this person from crossing. Can you or are you assuming her actions were entirely to get on social media? Maybe she was only proving her opinions of what was happening?

Why would she prove those opinions without wanting that video distributed?

 

[bongsaway]

Why would she prove those opinions without wanting that video distributed?

I have no idea, do you? No, but just like me, you have an opinion.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I have no idea, do you? No, but just like me, you have an opinion.

You are, literally, showing your bias allowing for such latitude for one party in that clip. Which is very telling about your intention, and hers.

 

[bongsaway]

You are, literally, showing your bias allowing for such latitude for one party in that clip. Which is very telling about your intention, and hers.

Indeed I am. I for one do not think our military should be interacting with the citizens in such a negative manner. Do you want to live in police state? If you know the reason these marines are blocking her, please share it.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Indeed I am. I for one do not think our military should be interacting with the citizens in such a negative manner. Do you want to live in police state? If you know the reason these marines are blocking her, please share it.

Looks like we've been through this, you still looking for one way street evidence?

 

[bongsaway]

Looks like we've been through this, you still looking for one way street evidence?

Just like you're looking to make her the enemy. Just stop posting about his incident and you won't have to listen to me responding to you, otherwise we can be at this for quite a while. I don't know if you're getting pissed about the subject, I'm not.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Just like you're looking to make her the enemy. Just stop posting about his incident and you won't have to listen to me responding to you, otherwise we can be at this for quite a while. I don't know if you're getting pissed about the subject, I'm not.

Not agreeing with Trump using Marines to guard a government building is one thing, we may even agree on that.

Ensuring a social media clip by confronting them is something else.

It was staged, it was intentional, with someone ready to record, and she was not lost looking for grandma's house.

 

[bongsaway]

Not agreeing with Trump using Marines to guard a government building is one thing, we may even agree on that.

Ensuring a social media clip by confronting them is something else.

It was staged, it was intentional, with someone ready to record, and she was not lost looking for grandma's house.

I agree she wasn't going to grandma's place. I want to know what they were blocking her from and was she doing anything illegal or was it the Marines performing an illegal maneuver?

 

[cpwill]

US Marines are not trained for crowd control or domestic law enforcement duties.

Respectfully, that is not entirely correct. Part of a MEU workup involves certifying the Battalion in crowd control and non lethal engagement, and this Battalion had to go through that course prior to being moved to LA.

Trump is in violation of US law for ordering Marines to Los Angeles.

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They have not been ordered to engage in law enforcement without invocation of the insurrection act so, that is also incorrect.

 

[cpwill]

Marines prevent a civilian from crossing a bridge in Los Angeles​

Is this really the best use of our armed forces, interfering with civilians just trying to cross a bridge? What did this woman do to deserve this behavior from our military who shouldn't even be there?

Before spouting off defending the Marines, watch the video of this apparent domestic terrorist.

Marines prevent a civilian from crossing a bridge in Los Angeles

U.S. Marines stationed in Los Angeles stopped a woman wearing a hooded jacket from crossing a bridge on Friday. The presence of Marines comes after protests erupted last week over immigration raids.

www.yahoo.com

I watched the video. I saw nothing wrong that the Marines did. What was I supposed to be offended by in their behavior?