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Who knows Baptists?

TypicalRussian said:
ive proved it tons of times here
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Well do it for me please.
I'll say now you can't and never will. You have no evidence other than faith and that does not equate to fact. You'll have to improve on that if you think I will believe that.
 
Colin Norris said:
Well do it for me please.
I'll say now you can't and never will. You have no evidence other than faith and that does not equate to fact. You'll have to improve on that if you think I will believe that.
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ontological argument

mic drop
 
I am not clear on the relationship between the current debate about the existence of God and the nature of the Baptist religion.
 
NewfieMom said:
I am not clear on the relationship between the current debate about the existence of God and the nature of the Baptist religion.
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All that can be known about Baptists has been discussed so we've come to a fork in the road where a different subject seems more interesting. 🤷‍♂️
 
Overitall said:
All that can be known about Baptists has been discussed so we've come to a fork in the road where a different subject seems more interesting. 🤷‍♂️
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I really doubt that we have exhausted the subject of the Baptists. I do appreciate your reply, however. You are a gentleman, as always, @Overitall. :)
 
NewfieMom said:
That is not the criterion for debate. It is anti-intellectual. There are huge differences between religions and you were stating that there were not. As a history teacher I cannot allow your incorrect statement to stand and mislead people just because you have decided that the differences between religions don't happen to bother YOU.
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The Baptists you speak of are not different religions, they are the same religion - Christianity.
 
it's just me said:
The Baptists you speak of are not different religions, they are the same religion - Christianity.
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I did not say that the different groups of Baptists were different religions from each other. I understand that that the Baptists are all one religion.

When I wrote that there were differences between Christian religions, as I have been clear to point out in this thread, I was referring to the differences between Roman Catholics and Lutherans; between Roman Catholics and members of the new Church of England (whatever its name then) when it was first formed by Henry VIII; differences between Lutherans and Calvinists; and some other differences which caused the aforementioned to burn each other at the stake for heresy.
 
NewfieMom said:
I did not say that the different groups of Baptists were different religions from each other. I understand that that the Baptists are all one religion.

When I wrote that there were differences between Christian religions, as I have been clear to point out in this thread, I was referring to the differences between Roman Catholics and Lutherans; between Roman Catholics and members of the new Church of England (whatever its name then) when it was first formed by Henry VIII; differences between Lutherans and Calvinists; and some other differences which caused the aforementioned to burn each other at the stake for heresy.
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As I said before, this is the 21st century, nobody has burned anybody for quite some time, and the faith traditions you mentioned have more things in common than differences.
 
it's just me said:
As I said before, this is the 21st century, nobody has burned anybody for quite some time, and the faith traditions you mentioned have more things in common than differences.
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That these differences between Christian groups happened prior to this century does not make them historically unimportant. It is of great importance to civilization that men be informed by the tragedies they draw down on themselves by their own actions. If they do not examine their history, they will not know what tragedies they might have avoided. I include wars among the tragedies that should be studied.
 
it's just me said:
As I said before, this is the 21st century, nobody has burned anybody for quite some time, and the faith traditions you mentioned have more things in common than differences.
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So the standard for religions basically being in agreement is that they haven't burned anybody lately. That's a funny measuring stick. You must agree with atheists too, by that standard.
 
I have asked Google:

Does the Baptist Doctrine Feel That Drinking Is a Sin?​


Despite what influence modern attitudes may bring, Resolution 5, On Alcohol Use In America, which was adopted at the June 2006 Southern Baptist Convention remains firm. Drinking alcohol is not in keeping with the Baptist faith and is roundly condemned for the toll it has taken on people’s lives. It is not something that can be enjoyed casually or on a limited basis; it should be shunned altogether.
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Does the Baptist Doctrine Feel That Drinking Is a Sin? | Synonym

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So now we know.
 
NewfieMom said:
I am not clear on the relationship between the current debate about the existence of God and the nature of the Baptist religion.
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I'm very clear on it. There is No gods of any religion and never has been. The debate about it is ridiculous.
 
NEVER any wine - not even for Communion:

Following are a few reasons why the big majority of Baptists do not use alcoholic wine in the ordinance (not sacrament) of the Lord’s Supper:

1. Even though the word wine referred to both fermented and unfermented wine in Bible times, the word wine is never used in Scripture referring to the Lord’s Supper. Instead, “cup,” or “fruit of the vine.” The best representative of fruit of the vine would be the juice immediately pressed; rather than that processed and made alcoholic. Scripture certainly never says to use alcohol for the Lord?s Supper.

2. Alcohol is a poison that immediately impairs judgment, kills brain cells, and makes men do what they would never do in their right minds. It is made by the process of rotting good, fresh, sweet unfermented wine. Why use that to represent the precious, pure, redeeming blood of Jesus?

3. Why use a drug to represent the blood of Jesus?

4. Why teach saved children to drink that which is a recreational drug? Why lead anyone by example to drink? Why use a church ordinance to lead someone astray? Alcohol has led multitudes astray. Alcohol abuse and dependence is a real problem.

5. Unfermented wine or grape juice in no way diminishes from the symbolism and biblical teaching of the Lord’s Supper. There are no harmful side effects of unfermented wine.

6. Jesus said when He would drink again with the disciples, it would be new wine (Matthew 26:29).

7. The bread of Passover and the Lord’s Supper is to be unleavened. It naturally follows that the cup should also be without leaven or ferment.

8. There are a multitude of good reasons not to drink; there are no good reasons to drink beverage alcohol.
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More: https://sbcvoices.com/why-we-dont-use-alcohol-for-the-lords-supper-by-david-r-brumbelow/

Would you agree with all those rules?
 
Colin Norris said:
I'm very clear on it. There is No gods of any religion and never has been. The debate about it is ridiculous.
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So I take it that you never engage in any debates concerning it. :)
 
Rumpel said:
Is it true that baptists do not drink wine?
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I am glad that you asked this question. The Baptists are not the only group to use grape juice instead of wine at communion. Nonetheless, it is an interesting feature of the Baptist Church. I did an Internet search on which other Protestant churches used grape juice instead of wine at communion. I found several entries. Here is an excerpt from one.

"Using grape juice during communion is common in Protestant churches, especially in North America. In fact, some Protestant Christians don’t realize that other traditions still use wine.


Many Protestants drink grape juice at communion instead of wine because of the potential dangers and negative connotations associated with alcohol. Some Protestants believe drinking alcohol is always wrong. Others simply believe that serving grape juice removes concerns related to children and alcoholics."

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Why Do Protestants Use Grape Juice in Communion? - Christianity FAQ

Using grape juice during communion is common in Protestant churches, especially in North America. In fact, some Protestant Christians don’t realize that other traditions still use wine. Many Protestants drink grape juice at communion instead of wine because of the potential dangers and negative...
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devildavid said:
So the standard for religions basically being in agreement is that they haven't burned anybody lately. That's a funny measuring stick. You must agree with atheists too, by that standard.
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No, that's the thing that the so-called. "experts" (who are usually atheists) say. You know, kinda like the Christian's who are not "evangelical".
 
some Protestant Christians don’t realize that other traditions still use wine.
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christianityfaq.com

Why Do Protestants Use Grape Juice in Communion? - Christianity FAQ

Using grape juice during communion is common in Protestant churches, especially in North America. In fact, some Protestant Christians don’t realize that other traditions still use wine. Many Protestants drink grape juice at communion instead of wine because of the potential dangers and negative...
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Only too true.

And what's more: Many Protestants do not realize that there are other Christians beside them.
And that they are not the only Christians on earth.
 
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