Navy Pride
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I never said I disliked, I just said we weren't friends. Perhaps I might be more amicable if you didn't preface "friend" with "left wing." I, for one, don't label my friends.
And I honestly don't see how you can spend more than five minutes on this forum and think that the "hate" isn't a two-way street.
The right "rarely, if ever" race-baits?
The answer is conservatives are more racist. Doesn't matter which party they belong to (southern democrats or today's Republicans), they are hostile towards minorities, and that's why most minorities reject them.
The left hates the right so much that they will say are do anything.
If you're going to dispute that claim, then it'd help to come up with evidence of widespread right-wing race baiting; and be able to support the claim that it is anywhere near as common as wrong-wing race-baiting.
That latter is going to be a very difficult claim to support, given the current pervasiveness of wrong-wing race-baiting in support of the current President, in the form of claiming that anyone who opposes him or his policies must be doing so because he's black.
You're going to have to face the fact, I think, that this form of race-baiting very rarely (if ever at all) comes from the right, and nearly always from those of you on the wrong. As much as those of you on the wrong like to paint those of us on the right as racists; this behavior of those on your side puts the lie to this claim, and clearly demonstrates which side is truly more racist.
Obama's plan is based on his inherent belief that this country was immorally and illegitimately founded by a very small minority of white Europeans who screwed everybody else since the founding to get all the money and all the goodies, and it's about time that the scales were made even. And that's what's going on here.
And I think if you look at the way the Obamas live, with Michelle and her separate vacations and not being concerned about how much it costs to take separate airplanes -- there's no question in my mind that they view this as -- whatever else they view it as, as an opportunity to live high on the hog without having it cost them a dime. And they justify it by thinking, "Well, we deserve this, or we're owed this because of what's been done to us and our ancestors all these" -- who knows? I think that's -- I think that's part of it.
I think Obama -- and Giuliani's right: [Obama's] an Alinskyite. He has been taught, he's been raised, educated, whatever. He's got a deep resentment for this country. You know me. I have told you. I'm willfully naïve, I guess. I can't get my arms around the fact that there are people born in this country who hate it. I know they do, they can explain to me the differences in ideology and so forth, I just -- I'm never going to intellectually or emotionally understand it, even though I can explain it, it still makes no sense to me. Yet I know those people exist and I know that they are the people that taught Obama. They are among those who educated him, both in his family and at the institutions of higher learning and academe that he attended. I know that he thinks this is an unjust country, that it was immoral in its founding for reasons including but greater than slavery. He thinks it was economically unjust and immoral. He thinks a bunch of rich white guys -- this one percent versus 99 percent stuff, that's how he thinks the country was founded and that the one percent has maintained themselves in total control of all the wealth since the days of the founding and that they take purposeful steps to keep everybody out of that club. He believes it. He thinks the only remedy for it is to take everything the one percent has and give it away to everybody else. Now the ulterior motives to that are entrenching his own power. I don't think there's benevolence in this. I don't think Obama runs around every day feeling genuinely sorry for the 99 percent. I don't think he's motivated by altruism. I think he's motivated by anger. He's got a chip on his shoulder, a number of them
and gay to although I get tired of him kicking my ass on the golf course........Thank God we are on the same team.
That is one thing I will never understand.....People on the left try and hide the fact they are Liberals.......I am proud to be Conservative and wear my Conserveaness like a badge of courage.
I give you credit my left wing friend....You drink the left wing cool aide
and have their talking points down pat.
If "conservative" is how you identify yourself in your day-to-day life, you're probably not a lot of fun to be around.
That saddens me my left wing friend....Its really bad you can dislike me because we disagree on the on political issues. Its pretty much what I am talking about.......The left hates the right so much that they will say are do anything.
Hey Navy Pride :2wave:
What really saddens me is that the political party of my father and mother, the Democrat Party has become the party of hate.
There's not one person on the DP that I hate or dislike, not even Redress, Kobie or Captain Chaos. I listen and respect their views even though their views are some what illogical and don't make any sense. :lol:
That is one thing I will never understand.....People on the left try and hide the fact they are Liberals.......I am proud to be Conservative and wear my Conserveaness like a badge of courage.
Lol, it's just the facts dude. Conservatism is hostile towards minorities, that's why most minorities reject them.
I give you credit my left wing friend....You drink the left wing cool aide
and have their talking points down pat.
You do know it was a Republican that freed the slaves right? This is a dumb topic anyways because it isn't the ideology that determines if a person is racist or not. If that was true, then Christianity would be inherently a violent religion if you look at the crusades and the inquisitaions.
Navy, as a conservative, do you conserve, as with T. Roosevelt and our resources and environment ??
If you come here to an internet political forum for the truth you are truly in search of a brain.
The environmentalist movement is the biggest blight on american politics since slavery.
It seems like every day that some prominent talking person from the left is making some racist comment against someone from the right especially on MSNBC.
Lol, it's just the facts dude. Conservatism is hostile towards minorities, that's why most minorities reject them.
Please no personal attacks my left wing friend.
You do realize it was a republican who enacted the EPA
Go to Radio Shack and see if you can get your bull**** detector adjusted. It seems to be out of whack. Got any idee' what voter ID is about?
If you're going to dispute that claim, then it'd help to come up with evidence of widespread right-wing race baiting; and be able to support the claim that it is anywhere near as common as wrong-wing race-baiting.
That latter is going to be a very difficult claim to support, given the current pervasiveness of wrong-wing race-baiting in support of the current President, in the form of claiming that anyone who opposes him or his policies must be doing so because he's black.
You're going to have to face the fact, I think, that this form of race-baiting very rarely (if ever at all) comes from the right, and nearly always from those of you on the wrong. As much as those of you on the wrong like to paint those of us on the right as racists; this behavior of those on your side puts the lie to this claim, and clearly demonstrates which side is truly more racist.
You do know it was a Republican that freed the slaves right? This is a dumb topic anyways because it isn't the ideology that determines if a person is racist or not. If that was true, then Christianity would be inherently a violent religion if you look at the crusades and the inquisitaions.
They reject conservatives because they have that government monkey on their backs and they always need a fix for more free stuff and the left will give them that fix in exchange for their votes at the polls.
Why do you think the left keeps them down ?
Conservatives hope that someday these people who want free stuff will realise what that strap is for on the top of their boots. It's for pulling yourself up by the bootstrap.
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