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I've done some reading today and thus far I'd say that a Cain/Daniels or Daniels/Cain ticket might be my preference, if I could have it my way.
How so? You have in all your posting been FAIL at answering this one simple question.
Hoffer argues that all mass movements such as fascism, communism, and religion spread by promising a glorious future.
To be successful, these mass movements need the adherents to be willing to sacrifice themselves and others for the future goals.
To do so, mass movements need to glorify the past and devalue the present.
Mass movements appeal to frustrated people who are dissatisfied with their current state, but are capable of a strong belief in the future.
As well, mass movements appeal to people who want to escape a flawed self by creating an imaginary self and joining a collective whole. Some categories of people who may be attracted to mass movements include poor people, misfits, and people who feel thwarted in their endeavors.
I say again, the GOP should put up Red Forman/Archie Bunker.
You pose questions - get direct answers then you want bait and troll to make it about you so you can complain that I am making it about you.
You ask "how so"?
here is what the summary of Hoffer's TRUE BELIEVER concept said
the right wing tea party/right libertarian/republican subscribes exactly to this belief. If only we can adopt their values, their beliefs, their ideas, their cures for what ails us then American can be saved from leftist socialism/communism/bolshevism/progressivism/trotskyism/leninism and liberalism. The American future is bright if only we adopt their belief system.
Shared sacrifice is the mantra here in Michigan coming from the lips of right wing Republican True Believers who have taken over the state legislature and have passed many laws taking away peoples rights. On a national level we hear from the Right how such programs as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are going to have to be pared back or even axed completely - more sacrifice for the masses so that the greater good can be achieved
Just read threads here and its evident how many of the believers of the right are obsessed with the good old days of the late 1700's and their sainted Founding Fathers. The days before the 20th century and the evil progressive movement and the even more hated New Deal of FDR and routinely demonized in favor of the good old days of the Gilded Age or even further back in the heyday of the tri-corner hat. The present is looked at as the nadir of America and we are in danger of the destruction of the nation according to the True Believers of the right.
This is easily seen by the appeal of folks like Beck and Limbaugh and their worshipping acolytes who hate what America now is and feel that they are no longer valued or important.
tea party anyone?
You asked - I delivered point by point.
If you think I am baiting and trolling you, report me. Last and only warning.
You know what would be even better?
My foot, in your ass.
Please, sacrifices need to be made, we cant continue to pay for that which we can not afford.
To be successful, these mass movements need the adherents to be willing to sacrifice themselves and others for the future goals.
from the Rev
from the summary of beliefs of the TRUE BELIEVER
thanks rev for a picture perfect illustration of the True Believer. Combine that with your own previous admissions to being a tea party follower, and a rightist libertarian, and its a signed and sealed confession.
thanks again.
What Rev said was entirely sensible. I don't know how you can take something like that, twist it and make it seem like Rev is some kind of dogmatic mouth-watering ideologue. His sentiments are shared by many on all sides.
What Rev said was entirely sensible. I don't know how you can take something like that, twist it and make it seem like Rev is some kind of dogmatic mouth-watering ideologue. His sentiments are shared by many on all sides.
Shared sacrifice only works if everyone is sacrificing. Its seems the Michigan the only ones that are sacrificing are small local, poor communities who are being ruled like a corporation.
Shared sacrifice only works if everyone is sacrificing. Its seems the Michigan the only ones that are sacrificing are small local, poor communities who are being ruled like a corporation.
The entire state is in shambles. It isn't just the poor, small towns being affected. They have the highest unemployment rate in the country and the largest population decrease since 2000.
Alright, I'm not actually clear on what the Michigan state legislature did and how people responded. Could someone enlighten me?
Does that give the governor the right to rule in the manner of a despot?
In what manner?
Read the edit. City managers are appointed by the governor, only answerable to the governor, and has both the power of the local legislature and the executive branch (for the locality)
Alright, I'm not actually clear on what the Michigan state legislature did and how people responded. Could someone enlighten me?
And yet he just managed a huge bipartisan victory by passing a largely leftist budget plan with both houses having a republican majority.
We don't elect city managers in Texas, either...and I'm not aware of them being responsible to anybody but the city council (slightly variance there).
Do you have links to the negative effects of this method of governance he has chosen?
If you are conservative, you should be against city managers dissolving local elected bodies and giving the power to himself. It takes control away from the local population and places it in the power of 1 person. That is anti-american FFS.
I'm neither for nor against it at this point in time. Michigan elected the governor, who asked the legislature (which Michigan elected) to pass legislation allowing him to select city managers. Though indirectly, the entire process was completed through representative government. If the city managers begin dictating outside of existing laws I'll have an issue.
Emergency managers remove local control.
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