White Privilege

[stealthycat]

Most people wouldnt want to look as foolish as your post and admit they didnt read the entire article. Or maybe you're just hoping no one else will call you on it...so you're posting dishonestly. Tsk tsk.

"The Clarks are navigating a system that is deeply rooted in documented racist rhetoric going back nearly 100 years. Howell explained how racist ideology from the 1920s made it into the then-budding appraisal industry.​

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“In the 1920s, the kind of new, at the time, Real Estate Association group started working with professors to systematize, and basically make their profession look more professional. But those that they were calling on were people who were trained by, and in other writings, pulled on social Darwinism and eugenics ideas that white communities were superior and making sure it continued to be the case by keeping out people who they thought didn't belong in those white communities,” said Howell.​

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Appraisal manuals from the 1930s to the 1970s perpetuated the belief that race was linked to value. One appraisal manual from 1946 ranked, in their words, “Negros and Mexicans" at the bottom of a list of who brings value to a neighborhood. At the top? White Europeans." link​

In general, real estate is historically an area where white privilege prevails, even today.

75 years ago isn't today


no, its NOT today and not 2025. You're not a home owner I take it? You gotta fight every time on appraisals and values and insurance costs and taxes etc

 

[Cope]

Agreed.

Well, was this change "ever so slightly" or "overnight"?
Seem the thrust of the Civil Rights movement began in the 60's (perhaps earlier). Do you consider that "overnight"?

The granting of rights equal to all others has nothing whatsoever to do with the instilled culture in the creation of this nation. Nor the privilege granted by it. Everyone has those same privileges, they just don't all align with how a different culture would have created them.
That's when the ever so slightly change began (likely sooner with other cultures, like the Asian, Hispanic etc)

Who's being harmed here?

Oh what cultures.

All cultures have some harm to themselves, but some cultures have vastly more. The Black culture is one. Incarceration rates. Murders of other Black community members. Highest gang affiliation rates etc. Likely one of the highest single unwed mother rates.

All harmful

 

[stealthycat]

Your post describes otherwise regarding white entitlement but of course you know your family specifically.

no, it doesn't describe that at all, I think you wanted it to be that way

the whole "white privilege" thing works great for liberals until then try and discuss it with someone who comes from generational poverty ....... like myself

 

[Lursa]

75 years ago isn't today


no, its NOT today and not 2025. You're not a home owner I take it? You gotta fight every time on appraisals and values and insurance costs and taxes etc

I gave you an example. And their study shows why your personal experience is not reflective of the overall issue. Your post shows grave limitations in critical thinking on a broader issue.

I bet you cant even explain what that difference is in the personal experience you have had with property appraisals and that study, can you?

 

[Lursa]

no, it doesn't describe that at all, I think you wanted it to be that way

the whole "white privilege" thing works great for liberals until then try and discuss it with someone who comes from generational poverty ....... like myself

I dont want it to be "any way." I read your overall description...and that of your family

 

[slick]

Damn, a white privilge thread, this is almost nostalgic.

We whites should be able to donate our white privilege and get a tax deduction for doing so.

 

[Bodi]

Hilarious satire.

Not sure of your take here.
Flesh out this discussion a touch more.

I don't like to lead people... better to sometimes see where it goes.

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[Bodi]

White privilege is definitely real, but privileges are earned. So what's the problem?

How is it real? In what manner?

 

[stealthycat]

I gave you an example. And their study shows why your personal experience is not reflective of the overall issue. Your post shows grave limitations in critical thinking on a broader issue. I bet you cant even explain what that difference is in the personal experience you have had with property appraisals and that study, can you?

no, you gave an example of a poor real estate appraiser failing to add all the improvements

gawd yes, with rental homes and fighting appraisers and insurance companies, county/state and how they value property etc yes, its always a battle to get fair values


it was because they wanted me to give more or they wanted to give less - just like that article. Skin color wasn't the factor

 

[Bodi]

Any wealth accumulated through the ownership of homes and passed down through the family, which is quite a bit, is an example of white privilege.

How is owning a home and passing it down a race factor and not an economic one?

The opportunuty to develop wealth through home ownership came through an opportunity given to whites but not to blacks. Of course, the fruits of that opportunity is passed from one generation to the next. Even now, white homes are worth more than black homes.

Black people owned homes back in the day. What you need to do is back up your claims with some facts.


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[stealthycat]

I dont want it to be "any way." I read your overall description...and that of your family

well you were 100% wrong in your assumptions so .....

 

[Lursa]

no, you gave an example of a poor real estate appraiser failing to add all the improvements

You are lying. It was a study and confirmed as a broader issue. Which is cited.

You are desperate...why? Your lying is obvious. Isnt that embarrassing for you?

gawd yes, with rental homes and fighting appraisers and insurance companies, county/state and how they value property etc yes, its always a battle to get fair values


it was because they wanted me to give more or they wanted to give less - just like that article. Skin color wasn't the factor

See? You have no idea. That IS embarrassing for you. You should stop digging that hole.

 

[Lursa]

well you were 100% wrong in your assumptions so .....

And yet you have to lie to try and show that...and keep failing

 

[quip]

The granting of rights equal to all others has nothing whatsoever to do with the instilled culture in the creation of this nation. Nor the privilege granted by it. Everyone has those same privileges, they just don't all align with how a different culture would have created them.
That's when the ever so slightly change began (likely sooner with other cultures, like the Asian, Hispanic etc)

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here.

Oh what cultures.

All cultures have some harm to themselves, but some cultures have vastly more. The Black culture is one. Incarceration rates. Murders of other Black community members. Highest gang affiliation rates etc. Likely one of the highest single unwed mother rates.

All harmful

This appears to be some thinly veiled racism. Are you telling me that the legacy of historical racism holds zero responsibility for the current conditions of black Americans? (As so described.)
Sounds similar to the oft majority tactic known as 'blaming the victim'.
Correct me if I'm off target.

 

[stealthycat]

You are lying. It was a study and confirmed as a broader issue. Which is cited.

You are desperate...why? Your lying is obvious. Isnt that embarrassing for you?

it was clearly stated why the first estimate was so low - you didn't read the article

See? You have no idea. That IS embarrassing for you. You should stop digging that hole.

when you become a home owner you'll better understand

 

[stealthycat]

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here.

This appears to be some thinly veiled racism. Are you telling me that the legacy of historical racism holds zero responsibility for the current conditions of black Americans? (As so described.)
Sounds similar to the oft majority tactic known as 'blaming the victim'.
Correct me if I'm off target.

I'll take that one for $100 Alex


No, it doesn't have any responsibility

How do I know this? Because I came from generational poverty. I know what its like, I lived it.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Any wealth accumulated through the ownership of homes and passed down through the family, which is quite a bit, is an example of white privilege.

I came from poverty. I rose above it by using resources anybody can use despite race.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Good take. I post this often, esp. when men are complaining about feminism:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality seems like oppression."​

Unkwn (possibly paraphrased from Thomas Sowell)​

Because feminism today isn’t about equality. It’s about women being above men.

 

[quip]

I'll take that one for $100 Alex


No, it doesn't have any responsibility

How do I know this? Because I came from generational poverty. I know what its like, I lived it.

Could you elaborate. Assertions don't count as proof.

 

[tharock220]

So racism is just about self-preservation. Perfectly reasonable.

Not what I said.

So then the individuals didnt earn it...I'll repeat it for you.

I'll repeat it what I said, again. It was earned by someone. This isn't hard to understand.

And you make the point: it was earned by others and then propagated thru society to those that didnt earn it but still have that privilege. Bingo!

Not really sure why that's an issue. I've already explained it.

What do people do to earn their skin color?

Who said that?

 

[tharock220]

How is it real? In what manner?

Just look beyond the simplicity of race. The quality of living in predominantly white countries is evidence, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

 

[Lursa]

I'll repeat it what I said, again. It was earned by someone. This isn't hard to understand.

Not really sure why that's an issue. I've already explained it.

So then the individuals didnt earn it...I'll repeat it for you.

And you make the point: it was earned by others and then propagated thru society to those that didnt earn it but still have that privilege. Bingo!

 

[stealthycat]

Could you elaborate. Assertions don't count as proof.

"Are you telling me that the legacy of historical racism holds zero responsibility for the current conditions of black Americans?"

rephrase that to "Are you telling me that the legacy of historical racism holds zero responsibility for the current conditions of really poor Americans?" or "Are you telling me that the legacy of historical racism holds zero responsibility for the current conditions of white Americans?"

what's the core problems of ANY of the above groups in today, 2025 ?

I don't blame the incredibly harsh winters in the 1880's or the great Depression or how southern people were treated after the civil war for my generational poverty. Did all that contribute? I'm sure it did, yet people make choices and decisions too


why is a poor person poor today, in 2025 in the USA ? black, white, brown, male, female, tall, short, fat, skinny, Christian or Muslim ...... its 2025 in the USA. If you want wealth? GO GET IT

and its been that way for decades. I don't need to read it in a book, or be told that by a politician. I lived it

 

[Lursa]

it was clearly stated why the first estimate was so low - you didn't read the article

You are lying. It was a study and confirmed as a broader issue. Which is cited.

You are desperate...why? Your lying is obvious. Isnt that embarrassing for you?

See? You have no idea. That IS embarrassing for you. You should stop digging that hole.

when you become a home owner you'll better understand

More than one Keep a'diggin tho Your embarrassment seems to have no depths.

 

[stealthycat]

Just look beyond the simplicity of race. The quality of living in predominantly white countries is evidence, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

is white a majority in the world?
is white a majority in North America?
more than 400 counties in the USA are white minority - In 2020, 14 out of the 50 largest U.S. cities had a white population share below 50%. Additionally, 27 of the 100 largest metropolitan areas were also considered minority-white

don't stop at using racial makeups at a country level -