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White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit

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White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit - WSJ

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit

U.S. military officials worked to ensure President Trump wouldn’t see the warship that bears the name of the late senator, a frequent target of the president’s ire

The White House wanted the U.S. Navy to move “out of sight” the warship USS John S. McCain ahead of President Trump’s visit to Japan, according to an email reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The ship was named after the father and grandfather of the late senator—a war hero who became a frequent target of Mr. Trump’s ire—and the senator’s name was added to the ship in 2018.


In a May 15 email to U.S. Navy and Air Force officials, a U.S. Indo-Pacific Command official outlined plans for the president’s arrival that he said had resulted from conversations between the White House Military Office and the Seventh Fleet of the U.S. Navy. In addition to instructions for the proper landing areas for helicopters and preparation for the USS Wasp—where the president was scheduled to speak—the official issued a third directive: “USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.”

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First let me apologize to Calamity for doubling up on her initial thread by re-posting this in breaking news. This story deserves to be seen by everyone. The White House has denied this. The Pentagon has denied this. Every news outlet imaginable in the US is reporting this.

This is probably one of the most sickening things in recent months because this tells us that Trump is absolutely an unstable man who ordered the USS John McCain moved in Japan. Trump is Commander in Chief and can order his military to do whatever he tells them to.

Acting Secretary of Defense Shanahan stated: "I never authorized any action around the movement or activity regarding that ship. Furthermore, I would never dishonor the memory of a great American patriot like Sen. McCain. I would never disrespect the young men and women that crew that ship."

CNBC reporter Amanda Macias tweeted the email sent from the White House to the Pentagon.

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Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

To say this is a nothing burger would be disrespectful to nothing burgers.

Truly scraping the bottom of the "Trump is New Hitler" barrel.

:)
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

Trump is without a doubt the most petty vindictive person on the planet. The Navy has confirmed this story. Nevertheless, Trump will claim it is "fake news" and deny it. And his fans will believe him.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

Trump is without a doubt the most petty vindictive person on the planet. The Navy has confirmed this story. Nevertheless, Trump will claim it is "fake news" and deny it. And his fans will believe him.

I have to say that when I read 'Calamity' post on this yesterday, I didn't take it seriously, I wasn't certain it was true. But every legitimate news agency is reporting on it. So, why should it command so much attention nationally? For one thing, there are many people of both parties that, even if they didn't agree with McCain on everything, they certainly respected John McCain.

The reason I felt sick about this story today was realizing that Trump will do anything, whatever whim suits him, he'll do whatever he wants. He's already a dictator. The arm patches worn by the Navy air crew with the image of Trump on it almost seemed surreal. I thought "this is a joke, can't be real", but sadly it was.

This goes beyond party politics, this goes beyond Trumpism. THIS IS FASCISM such as the world hasn't seen since 1938 Nazi Germany.

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... :roll: ...
 
"It makes my grief unbearable"


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Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

Everything he does shows he has the emotional maturity of an eight year old.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

To say this is a nothing burger would be disrespectful to nothing burgers.

Truly scraping the bottom of the "Trump is New Hitler" barrel.

:)

They have to keep up that 92% negative stories on Trump rate, so they really need to scrape up anything they can, made up or not. We'll see anything and everything from these leftist morons, as long as it is negative.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

I have to say that when I read 'Calamity' post on this yesterday, I didn't take it seriously, I wasn't certain it was true. But every legitimate news agency is reporting on it. So, why should it command so much attention nationally? For one thing, there are many people of both parties that, even if they didn't agree with McCain on everything, they certainly respected John McCain.

The reason I felt sick about this story today was realizing that Trump will do anything, whatever whim suits him, he'll do whatever he wants. He's already a dictator. The arm patches worn by the Navy air crew with the image of Trump on it almost seemed surreal. I thought "this is a joke, can't be real", but sadly it was.

This goes beyond party politics, this goes beyond Trumpism. THIS IS FASCISM such as the world hasn't seen since 1938 Nazi Germany.

You obviously don't know what fascism is. I think the Germans went a little further than 3 Trump supporters with patches supporting Trump.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

You obviously don't know what fascism is. I think the Germans went a little further than 3 Trump supporters with patches supporting Trump.

There's always a beginning and there's always an end. This is the end of the beginning.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

There's always a beginning and there's always an end. This is the end of the beginning.

Well, that's a nice generic quote that applies to just about everything in the universe.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

Well, that's a nice generic quote that applies to just about everything in the universe.

If the shoe fits, wear it
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit - WSJ

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit

U.S. military officials worked to ensure President Trump wouldn’t see the warship that bears the name of the late senator, a frequent target of the president’s ire

The White House wanted the U.S. Navy to move “out of sight” the warship USS John S. McCain ahead of President Trump’s visit to Japan, according to an email reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The ship was named after the father and grandfather of the late senator—a war hero who became a frequent target of Mr. Trump’s ire—and the senator’s name was added to the ship in 2018.


In a May 15 email to U.S. Navy and Air Force officials, a U.S. Indo-Pacific Command official outlined plans for the president’s arrival that he said had resulted from conversations between the White House Military Office and the Seventh Fleet of the U.S. Navy. In addition to instructions for the proper landing areas for helicopters and preparation for the USS Wasp—where the president was scheduled to speak—the official issued a third directive: “USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.”

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First let me apologize to Calamity for doubling up on her initial thread by re-posting this in breaking news. This story deserves to be seen by everyone. The White House has denied this. The Pentagon has denied this. Every news outlet imaginable in the US is reporting this.

This is probably one of the most sickening things in recent months because this tells us that Trump is absolutely an unstable man who ordered the USS John McCain moved in Japan. Trump is Commander in Chief and can order his military to do whatever he tells them to.

Acting Secretary of Defense Shanahan stated: "I never authorized any action around the movement or activity regarding that ship. Furthermore, I would never dishonor the memory of a great American patriot like Sen. McCain. I would never disrespect the young men and women that crew that ship."

CNBC reporter Amanda Macias tweeted the email sent from the White House to the Pentagon.

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The eMail reminds me of what happened when a seniour judge of the BC Supreme Court issued an order that was improperly applied for while being based on false evidence without following the prescribed procedures. When the application to have the order vacated was heard (by a much more juniour Judge) the Judge was faced with several lines of argument - all of which were successful, and all of which would have justified setting the order aside, and all of which would have been highly embarrassing to the Judge who issued the order - in order to resolve the issue, the Judge ruled that the court order (a copy of which he had in his hand) did not exist.

I presume that that is going to be the position of the White House and Pentagon with respect to this eMail.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

Everything he does shows he has the emotional maturity of an eight year old.

On behalf of eight year-olds everywhere, I demand an immediate retraction and apology for that unwarranted slur on eight year-olds.
 
Re: White House Wanted USS John McCain Out of Sight During Trump Japan Visit

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit - WSJ

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit

U.S. military officials worked to ensure President Trump wouldn’t see the warship that bears the name of the late senator, a frequent target of the president’s ire

The White House wanted the U.S. Navy to move “out of sight” the warship USS John S. McCain ahead of President Trump’s visit to Japan, according to an email reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The ship was named after the father and grandfather of the late senator—a war hero who became a frequent target of Mr. Trump’s ire—and the senator’s name was added to the ship in 2018.


In a May 15 email to U.S. Navy and Air Force officials, a U.S. Indo-Pacific Command official outlined plans for the president’s arrival that he said had resulted from conversations between the White House Military Office and the Seventh Fleet of the U.S. Navy. In addition to instructions for the proper landing areas for helicopters and preparation for the USS Wasp—where the president was scheduled to speak—the official issued a third directive: “USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.”

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(mine)

First let me apologize to Calamity for doubling up on her initial thread by re-posting this in breaking news. This story deserves to be seen by everyone. The White House has denied this. The Pentagon has denied this. Every news outlet imaginable in the US is reporting this.

This is probably one of the most sickening things in recent months because this tells us that Trump is absolutely an unstable man who ordered the USS John McCain moved in Japan. Trump is Commander in Chief and can order his military to do whatever he tells them to.

Acting Secretary of Defense Shanahan stated: "I never authorized any action around the movement or activity regarding that ship. Furthermore, I would never dishonor the memory of a great American patriot like Sen. McCain. I would never disrespect the young men and women that crew that ship."

CNBC reporter Amanda Macias tweeted the email sent from the White House to the Pentagon.

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He should rename the ship to the USS Trump...That would be sufficient to explode liberal heads....lol
 
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He should rename the ship to the USS Trump...That would be sufficient to explode liberal heads....lol

We already know what's making Trump's head explode, Robert Mueller. Our history books will remember the name of 'Trump' as a "dirty, filthy disgusting word".
 
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We already know what's making Trump's head explode, Robert Mueller. Our history books will remember the name of 'Trump' as a "dirty, filthy disgusting word".

LOL...don't let the USS Trump trigger you pal....Trump's head isn't exploding over Muller, hell, the guy came up with nothing...He's laughing at you dolts....
 
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LOL...don't let the USS Trump trigger you pal....Trump's head isn't exploding over Muller, hell, the guy came up with nothing...He's laughing at you dolts....

Yes it is. In March, Mueller was a hero to Trump because Barr misinterpretation the Mueller report. Now that Mueller appeared publicly to correct the record and dispute Barr's interpretation of his report, Trump is talking about how evil and bad Robert Mueller is.

I have to admit, no matter what consequences it brings for the country, which it inevitably will, I'm genuinely enjoying seeing Trump all bloated and red-faced sputtering and having a total meltdown. Second only to that delightful scene is the joy watching Trumpers sputter and deflect with lies and bogus conspiracy theories. :lol:
 
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Yes it is. In March, Mueller was a hero to Trump because Barr misinterpretation the Mueller report. Now that Mueller appeared publicly to correct the record and dispute Barr's interpretation of his report, Trump is talking about how evil and bad Robert Mueller is.

I have to admit, no matter what consequences it brings for the country, which it inevitably will, I'm genuinely enjoying seeing Trump all bloated and red-faced sputtering and having a total meltdown. Second only to that delightful scene is the joy watching Trumpers sputter and deflect with lies and bogus conspiracy theories. :lol:

Yep, you know school yard bullies always take glee when the kid their picking on breaks under their relentless attacks too...Most adults grow out of that sort of schadenfreude...
 
This goes beyond party politics, this goes beyond Trumpism. THIS IS FASCISM such as the world hasn't seen since 1938 Nazi Germany.

The millions who died at the hands of, and as a result of, the Hitler regime would likely disagree with you that today's US is any bit comparable to Nazi Germany.

But don't let that stop the dishonest histrionics. It's clear you enjoy it...
 
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Yep, you know school yard bullies always take glee when the kid their picking on breaks under their relentless attacks too...Most adults grow out of that sort of schadenfreude...

You Trumpers reveled for nearly 3 years and taunted anyone that opposed Trump. So yep, get used to it, the tables have turned on you.
 
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Fantastic job backing up your point that those patches are the start of fascism.

WTF do you think fascism is anyway? Apparently you haven't read up about it, try doing that.
 
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I hope these 'sailors' are punished for altering their uniforms. I don't see anything humorous in this at all.
 
The millions who died at the hands of, and as a result of, the Hitler regime would likely disagree with you that today's US is any bit comparable to Nazi Germany.

But don't let that stop the dishonest histrionics. It's clear you enjoy it...

NO fascist regime begins at the end, which is what happened with the extermination of 6 million Jews in concentration camps or starved in the ghettos. But Jews were not the only group singled out for persecution by Hitler’s Nazi regime. As many as one-half million Gypsies, at least 250,000 mentally or physically disabled persons, and more than three million Soviet prisoners-of-war also fell victim to Nazi genocide. Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, Social Democrats, Communists, partisans, trade unionists, Polish intelligentsia and other undesirables were also victims of the hate and aggression carried out by the Nazis.

How did Hitler's racism and fascism get to that point? It stated early in the 1920's

"In July 1921 he became their leader with almost unlimited powers. From the first he set out to create a mass movement, whose mystique and power would be sufficient to bind its members in loyalty to him. He engaged in unrelenting propaganda through the party newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter (“Popular Observer,” acquired in 1920), and through meetings whose audiences soon grew from a handful to thousands. With his charismatic personality and dynamic leadership, he attracted a devoted cadre of Nazi leaders, men whose names today live in infamy—Johann Dietrich Eckart (who acted as a mentor for Hitler)" Alfred Rosenberg, Rudolf Hess, Hermann Göring, and Julius Streicher.

That entire paragraph can be likened to the rise of Trump's party. Same story, different century.
 
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