White House to Push Gun Control

The Prof · Mar 13, 2011

the white house push for gun control, two months later

obtuse obama opined an op ed in today's arizona star

Obama writes about guns | POLITICO 44

"my administration has not curtailed the rights of gun owners"

nor does it intend to

indeed, the perplexed prez proceeds, "it has expanded them"

We must seek agreement on gun reforms

disappointed?

The Prof · Mar 13, 2011

yup, he expanded gun use alright

Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico - CBS Evening News - CBS News

Wake · Mar 21, 2011

"A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone."

A lot can happen to you before the police come, assuming you were even able to find a phone and call while not being interrupted. In my personal life, my sister is buying a gun because she wants to protect herself. She lives in a rough area. She's scared of being attacked and raped. She's sickly, so she can't exactly fight physically. She shouldn't be forced to fear for her safety. With a gun in her purse, she can just grab it and point. That's enough to get a thug to back off.

You'd deny her the right to protect herself? That she must call 911 while she's being attacked? Why, don't you seem wise and caring.

The Prof · Mar 25, 2011

Under fire for an operation that allowed smuggling of U.S. weapons across the nation’s border with Mexico, President Obama said in an interview that neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder authorized the controversial “Operation Fast and Furious.”

The Mexican government has complained that it didn’t know about the U.S. operation that allowed guns to illegally cross the southwestern border so they could track the weapons.

The investigation into the program comes after it was connected to two weapons that were found at the scene of a border shootout that killed U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in December. Likewise, a gun smuggled from the U.S. was used to kill Immigration and Customs Enforcement special agent Jamie Zapata, but it has not been determined if it was part of “Fast and Furious.”

The controversial operation was the subject of a CBS News Investigation that reported ATF was allowing traffickers to bring weapons into Mexico in order to track them rather than arresting the traffickers. Obama said Holder has assigned an inspector general to investigate what happened, because he does not know who authorized the operation.

Obama says he didn’t inform Mexico of U.S. gun smuggling operation because he didn’t know about it | Texas on the Potomac | a mySA.com blog

thousands of assault rifles

if the president and his ag didn't know they certainly should have

he's been bragging for a month about his "partnership" with calderon to halt drug and gun trafficking across the border

“our policy is to ram up the interdiction of guns flowing south because that’s contributing to some of the security problems that are taking place in mexico and what we’re doing is trying to build the kind of cooperation between mexico and the united states that we haven’t seen before”

but it appears the doj is one of the druggies best dealers

meanwhile, where's that gun control initiative?

how's ms giffords?

why have the party and their pals in the msm DROPPED her?

pray for her recovery, her family, the other victims and their loved ones

The Prof · Jul 8, 2011

today:

Six months after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot, the White House is preparing to propose some new steps on gun safety, though they're likely to fall short of the bold measures activists would like to see.

Anti-gun groups have been disappointed to see no action so far from President Barack Obama, who supported tough gun control measures earlier in his career but fell largely silent upon becoming president. Some activists were using the opportunity of the six-month anniversary of the Giffords shooting on Friday to speak up.

Spokesman Jay Carney said that the new steps would be made public "in the near future." He didn't offer details, but people involved in talks at the Justice Department to craft the new measures said they expected to see something in the next several weeks. Whatever is proposed is not expected to involve legislation or take on major issues like banning assault weapons but could include executive action to strengthen the background check system or other steps.

Administration to propose steps on gun safety - USATODAY.com

don't hold your breath

obvious Child · Jul 9, 2011

Anyone laughing at how wrong the OP was? 6 months later...and nothing!

Boo Radley · Jul 9, 2011

obvious Child said:
Anyone laughing at how wrong the OP was? 6 months later...and nothing!

No, they'll just forget until the next silly misniformed silliness comes along. Too many on boths sides do this too often.

The Prof · Jul 9, 2011

yup, worst of both worlds

just enough anti gun rhetoric to offend the clinger crowd

and not an inch of action

typical obama---all the political pain, no gain

gitmo, anyone?

civilian trials for terrorists?

cap and trade?

American · Jul 9, 2011

tlmorg02 said:
So you think it is bad to stop mentally imbalanced people from obtaining assault rifles?

Slippery slope, my friend. You could be considered nuts, have your gun taken away, put in a mental instituion, have your property taken by the state (for your own good of course). Yeah, careful what you wish for, buddy.

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
No, they'll just forget until the next silly misniformed silliness comes along. Too many on boths sides do this too often.

Fast and furious will be used against anything Obama tries. Obama and Holder are not out of the woods yet on that

Boo Radley · Jul 10, 2011

ptif219 said:
Fast and furious will be used against anything Obama tries. Obama and Holder are not out of the woods yet on that

I have idea what you're talking about. Are saying made up **** will be used? I'm sure that is true. I have found both parties like doing that, sadly.

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
I have idea what you're talking about. Are saying made up **** will be used? I'm sure that is true. I have found both parties like doing that, sadly.

So you know nothing about the fast and furious plan where the ATF forced gun dealers to sell to mexico drug cartels? The investigations are on going and the congress may still bring charges.

Boo Radley · Jul 10, 2011

ptif219 said:
So you know nothing about the fast and furious plan where the ATF forced gun dealers to sell to mexico drug cartels? The investigations are on going and the congress may still bring charges.

Yes, I do, but what was Obama's role in that? Did he come up with the plan? Say good job Brownie when he heard about? What exactly?

OpportunityCost · Jul 10, 2011

We dont know actually, DoJ is stonewalling and the testifying ATF agent is contradicting testimony of DoJ officials about who knew what and when. It seems that certain officials in the FBI and Homeland Security were told of details as well, depending on if you believe the primary witness.

Whatever happened to the buck stops here, BR?

SypherAL · Jul 10, 2011

All the people on here that a oppose gun restriction laws have never endured a tragedy that involves the death of a child, friend, or family member as a direct result of POOR gun restriction laws. Why do Americans feel the need to carry Ak47 assault rifles, Uzi's, and M4A1's? I agree that using them for sporting is completely ok, but we all know 50% of people that own firearms do not lock them up properly to avoid theft and accidents with chilidren. Its amazing how easy some kids can buy guns, and that includes semi-automatic guns on the streets these days, probably as easy as buying a pack of cigarettes in some poor areas of cities.

Republicans complain that making it hard to buy a gun, is just another stupid Obama policy. May I ask these people what THEIR solution is? Should we continue to allow our youth to obtain dangerous firearms so they can perform a video game sequence, that chilidren can legally buy now thanks to a wonderful recent ruling by our very stupid law makers?

Its pretty easy to understand that our founding fathers did not mean Army-Grade assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons when they wrote "the right to bare arms". Times have changed, and that calls for gun regulations to change. Pretty simple to understand really, if your not an arrogant red neck republican.

The Prof · Jul 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
I have [no] idea what you're talking about.

of course not, it hasn't appeared on whitehouse.gov, comedy central or in the sydney morning herald

LOL!

The Prof · Jul 10, 2011

concerning f&f, we know that doj said holder and obama did not know what was going on and pressured melson at atf to quit

melson refused, said he was eager to testify, the white house backed off

melson testifed on july 4 in house oversight that the fbi and dea were involved in f&f, unbeknownst to atf

it appears clear this was a doj-at-large operation, involving many of the dept's agencies, and NOT simply a rogue-like effort on the part of a troubled atf

stay tuned

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
Yes, I do, but what was Obama's role in that? Did he come up with the plan? Say good job Brownie when he heard about? What exactly?

That is what is being investigated. As President he is responsible for these programs. His administration will be responsible and Holder is in big trouble.

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

SypherAL said:
All the people on here that a oppose gun restriction laws have never endured a tragedy that involves the death of a child, friend, or family member as a direct result of POOR gun restriction laws. Why do Americans feel the need to carry Ak47 assault rifles, Uzi's, and M4A1's? I agree that using them for sporting is completely ok, but we all know 50% of people that own firearms do not lock them up properly to avoid theft and accidents with chilidren. Its amazing how easy some kids can buy guns, and that includes semi-automatic guns on the streets these days, probably as easy as buying a pack of cigarettes in some poor areas of cities.

Republicans complain that making it hard to buy a gun, is just another stupid Obama policy. May I ask these people what THEIR solution is? Should we continue to allow our youth to obtain dangerous firearms so they can perform a video game sequence, that chilidren can legally buy now thanks to a wonderful recent ruling by our very stupid law makers?

Its pretty easy to understand that our founding fathers did not mean Army-Grade assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons when they wrote "the right to bare arms". Times have changed, and that calls for gun regulations to change. Pretty simple to understand really, if your not an arrogant red neck republican.

Laws will not stop the illegal sales on the streets. Enforce the laws on the books before you make new laws

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

Operation gunrunner was in the stimulus bill

The Stimulation Of Murder - Investors.com

The ATF's gun-running disaster was funded in the stimulus bill. Think about all the criminal and drug cartel jobs saved or created. And our attorney general once bragged to a Mexican audience about implementing it.

This could be, no pun intended, the proverbial smoking gun in a growing administration scandal that deserves as much mainstream media attention as Iran-Contra or Watergate.

Right there in the stimulus bill that no one in Congress bothered to read is $10 million for Project Gunrunner (aka Operation Fast and Furious), which resulted in the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and increased drug cartel violence.

Boo Radley · Jul 10, 2011

ptif219 said:
That is what is being investigated. As President he is responsible for these programs. His administration will be responsible and Holder is in big trouble.

Responsible? yes, if he holds no one accountable. but only an idiot thinks he devised, oversaw, and ran that program or any other like it. If he response with you're doing a hell of a job Brownie type response, you might have a bit of a point. otherwise,refer to my original comment.

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
Responsible? yes, if he holds no one accountable. but only an idiot thinks he devised, oversaw, and ran that program or any other like it. If he response with you're doing a hell of a job Brownie type response, you might have a bit of a point. otherwise,refer to my original comment.

Read post 770 the democrats put it in the stimulus bill

Boo Radley · Jul 10, 2011

ptif219 said:
Read post 770 the democrats put it in the stimulus bill

Again, meaningless. They were not the designers of the program, likely had limited information, and if they don't say good job Brownie and pat the person on the back who did, but instead hold thema ccountable, your argument fails all reasoanble tests.

ptif219 · Jul 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
Again, meaningless. They were not the designers of the program, likely had limited information, and if they don't say good job Brownie and pat the person on the back who did, but instead hold thema ccountable, your argument fails all reasoanble tests.

It was funded by the Obama stimulus bill so him and Holder knew about it.

Boo Radley · Jul 10, 2011

ptif219 said:
It was funded by the Obama stimulus bill so him and Holder knew about it.

I'll type slower. You have to prove Holder knew the details, and was an active participant in desigining and running it. And that would only make Holder responsibile, not Obama and not democrats. Not read everything I've typed slower.

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