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The only thing wrong with your post, is that Obama hasn't violated the war powers act.
Ok. Question: are U.S. combat units--of any branch, or arm--currently operating in Libya?
The War Powers Act specifies that he must get congressional approval within 60 days of his launching military action, or bring the operation to a close within an additional 30 days. His 60-day window has now expired without even a serious attempt to get congressional approval, so he's already skirting the boundaries of what's legal as it is. If we are still involved in Libya in any way a month from now, the administration will be in violation of the law.
now you're just being nice.
Thank you for saving me the effort of having to type exactly that, except that The Obama, not having the authorization in hand now, is already in violation of the law.The War Powers Act specifies that he must get congressional approval within 60 days of his launching military action, or bring the operation to a close within an additional 30 days. His 60-day window has now expired without even a serious attempt to get congressional approval, so he's already skirting the boundaries of what's legal as it is. If we are still involved in Libya in any way a month from now, the administration will be in violation of the law.
Ok. Question: are U.S. combat units--of any branch, or arm--currently operating in Libya?
The American leaders of the intervention are Sam Locklear (Navy), Carter Ham (Army), and James Stavridis (Navy).
Ok. Question: are U.S. combat units--of any branch, or arm--currently operating in Libya?
Ok. Question: are U.S. combat units--of any branch, or arm--currently operating in Libya?
That's not what I asked.
Let's try again: which American combat units are currently operating within the Libyan theater of operations?
stop being silly, come on...
he attacked another countries army, with American troops, with Amercian dollars..
doesnt matter how you dress that, working with the UN, not putting boots on the ground, whatever.... it needs to have approval after 60 days.
You dont play with American lives with a "technicality"
American soldiers, peoples sons a daughters could die carrying out these acts, THATS why we have this 'law'..
so stop it, stop mincing words, so to speak
I never said he didn't. However, as Khandahar pointed out, the president must--by law--seek Congressional approval to continue an operation beyond 60 days. The operation that Obama ordered ended in less than 30 days and as far as I know American units haven't participated in combat operations, since.
Khadahar posted the names of the commanders of USAFCOM, which is headquartered in Stuttgart as evidence of...something, which turned into a massive fail.
no, I'm saying Obama is working with the UN and as such is different. Bush was both outside the UN and without a declaration of war, giving little to no legitimacy to his actions.
and no, I don't believe Obama has broken his oath even though I would have prefered he went to congress.
Are you claiming that makes a difference?
so by your "assertion", were done in Libya, no further action required...
FAIL
yes?
If Obama is allowed to get away with this, let's make no mistake about it: It will mean that the War Powers Act is dead, because every future president will simply cite Obama's Libyan adventure as a precedent. It will mean that the president will have the power to wage war anywhere in the world, for any reason, on any scale, for any length of time, without any checks or balances on his power. This is NOT a path that the United States of America should go down.
There doesnt need to be any single unit there for more than 90 days, there needs to be just one there now in order to require The Obama to get an OK from Congres or to force Him to withdraw.No! That's not what I said. What I'm saying, is that if there are no American combat units currently operating in the LTO, Obama isn't in violation of the war powers act.
Anyone wanna start a pool about how many times I have to make that same statement and still, no one will be able to tell us which American combat units have been engaged in Libya for more than 90 days?
There doesnt need to be any single unit there for more than 90 days, there needs to be just one there now in order to require The Obama to get an OK from Congres or to force Him to withdraw.
Your point is that there are none there now? If there are none there, then the point is moot.
The Administrarion's reaction to all of this illustrates that the point is not moot, and so there must be some unit somewhere in the area doing something that falls under the WPA.
Beats me - but that doesn't mean there aren't any.Ok, Panzer IV, which combat unit is currently operating in the LTO?
Your article is dated 19 March.
Beats me - but that doesn't mean there aren't any.
The fact that the Administration finds the need to respond speaks far more to the issue that no one being able to answer your question to your satisfaction.
And what does that mean to you?
To others it means the United States, led by US President Obama,went to war with Libya. That is the point.
The 60 days have passed and BHO has not sought Congressional approval, as the War Powers Act clearly states he must.
Do you expect Libyans to not respond?
I never said he didn't. However, as Khandahar pointed out, the president must--by law--seek Congressional approval to continue an operation beyond 60 days. The operation that Obama ordered ended in less than 30 days and as far as I know American units haven't participated in combat operations, since.
Khadahar posted the names of the commanders of USAFCOM, which is headquartered in Stuttgart as evidence of...something, which turned into a massive fail.
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