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Whistleblower says UFO retrieval program exists

No. I don't. I am reasonably sure that there is life elsewhere besides Earth, including intelligent life. However the odds of any of them travelling light years to get here and just crash in a desert is infinitesimal.
They didn't just crash. We shot then down with an electromagnetic weapon so we could retrieve them and reverse engineer the technology.
 
Is there intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? There must be.
We know it happened once.
We know the ingredients required for OUR kind of life are common.
Statistically speaking it is virtually impossible that ours is the only example of intelligent life in the entire universe.

But that is not the question at hand.

Are we being visited by other intelligences?
Whelk I admit there are a great many unexplained phenomena that point to the possibility, I find it hard to swallow.
Unless travel between stars is much easier than we believe it to be, I can’t imagine why they would go to all that trouble and not try to say hello.
Even in a Prime Directive type scenario, I believe we would have more concrete evidence than we have seen so far.
While I would love to have the question answered and find that there are aliens visiting us, I just don’t think so.
I tend to agree with you, but how do you explain the phenomenon off the west coast that was leaked out regarding the tic tac shaped objects (UAP's) easily evading Navy jet aircraft? Flying at incredible speed but could instantly stop on a dime.


My theory has always been these are extraterrestrial, but not piloted by aliens as the distances of their origin are too far to support life in the time it takes to travel this far. They are AI piloted craft that have very very very long lifespans of use, which have traveled long periods of time.

What's the point of these if they are too far away to communicate back, or the original builders are long gone. No idea. Or perhaps the original builders are closer than we think? Perhaps over time the original builders came closer and closer over eons?

Can you tell I write science fiction?
 
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They didn't just crash. We shot then down with an electromagnetic weapon so we could retrieve them and reverse engineer the technology.
Any alien race advanced in technology enough to travel light years to Earth is not likely to be taken down that easily.
 
I tend to agree with you, but how do you explain the phenomenon off the west coast that was leaked out regarding the tic tac shaped objects (UAP's) easily evading Navy jet aircraft? Flying at incredible speed but could instantly stop at those high speeds.


My theory has always been these are extraterrestrial but not piloted by aliens as the distances of their origin are too far to support life in the time it takes to travel that far. They are AI piloted craft that have very very very long lifespans of use which have traveled long periods of time. What's the point of this if they are too far away to communicate back or the original builders are long gone. No idea.
That is certainly a possibility. I just assume they would initiate contact to let us know there is other life out these.
 
That is certainly a possibility. I just assume they would initiate contact to let us know there is other life out these.
I'm not so sure. I think contact could cause a myriad of problems. Or they are waiting for us to evolve to the point where the problems are eliminated?

One postulation is we are so far beneath them in evolution it would be like a human making first contact with an ant. Pointless.
 
I'm not so sure. I think contact could cause a myriad of problems. Or they are waiting for us to evolve to the point where the problems are eliminated?

One postulation is we are so far beneath them in evolution it would be like a human making first contact with an ant. Pointless.
The zoo hypothesis. Could be.
 
Any alien race advanced in technology enough to travel light years to Earth is not likely to be taken down that easily.
That's assuming they are using technology similar to ours. Assuming they are much farther advanced than us they could probably travel anywhere in the universe quickly.
 
The zoo hypothesis. Could be.
I have another theory as crazy as it sounds. What if these UAP are atmospheric life forms that have evolved in the upper atmosphere and space and can move around space at ease? The don't have to be any more intelligent than a bird that expertly flies. Maybe even less, but they can evade capture or automatically response to a chase or threat like an amoeba does to a probe.
 
I tend to agree with you, but how do you explain the phenomenon off the west coast that was leaked out regarding the tic tac shaped objects (UAP's) easily evading Navy jet aircraft? Flying at incredible speed but could instantly stop on a dime.


My theory has always been these are extraterrestrial, but not piloted by aliens as the distances of their origin are too far to support life in the time it takes to travel this far. They are AI piloted craft that have very very very long lifespans of use, which have traveled long periods of time.

What's the point of these if they are too far away to communicate back, or the original builders are long gone. No idea. Or perhaps the original builders are closer than we think? Perhaps over time the original builders came closer and closer over eons?

Can you tell I write science fiction?
Mick West on YouTube has a very plausible explanation as to these videos.



I will take video artifacts and mistaken frame of references judging speed and direction before as an explanation before aliens.
 
I'm not so sure. I think contact could cause a myriad of problems. Or they are waiting for us to evolve to the point where the problems are eliminated?

One postulation is we are so far beneath them in evolution it would be like a human making first contact with an ant. Pointless.
Dr Steven Greer says they are waiting for us to be more civilized and not into war and nuclear weapons before they make official contact with the public.
 
Mick West on YouTube has a very plausible explanation as to these videos.



I will take video artifacts and mistaken frame of references judging speed and direction before as an explanation before aliens.

I can't access your video. Says I need to prove I'm not a bot but nothing happens when I click on the video.

Edit: I was able to go directly to Youtube and access his video. Thanks!
 
Former Marine Michael Herrera tells all in part one of this three part series. Herrera and his team were tasked with responding to a major earthquake and tsunami in Indonesia providing overwatch and logistical support.

Little did they know–they would come face to face with a UAP / UFO and be ambushed by an unmarked shadow unit of operators. Tune in this week to hear Herrera's story and how he is testifying to Congress to illuminate the hidden truth.

 
That's assuming they are using technology similar to ours. Assuming they are much farther advanced than us they could probably travel anywhere in the universe quickly.
However a race that advanced would certainly attempt to contact us and would be well advanced enough to allow for any hostilities. And if we spot another worldly craft, we would certainly investigate it before trying to shoot it down.
 
I can't access your video. Says I need to prove I'm not a bot but nothing happens when I click on the video.

Edit: I was able to go directly to Youtube and access his video. Thanks!
Here is a more specific one.

He does good work.

 
So the claim is that the whistleblower was part of an effort where he was “contracted as a helicopter pilot to retrieve all kinds of downed craft, some of which he believes are of nonhuman origin.”

One problem with this is that any civilization advanced enough to travel light years to get here is advanced enough not to be crashing on Earth. Even with our extremely primitive technology in comparison we are able to manage 100,000 flights a day with negligible crashes.

If aliens were visiting us and their intent was to remain secret then they would certainly have the technology to do so. If not, then we would certainly be well aware of them.

Personally I believe that it is very unlikely that we are the only planet in the universe with life but that it’s unlikely we are being visited by life from other planets.
It's been said they didn't crash on their own and that we shot them down with a electromagnetic weapon.
 
DC Long and his Father, then government contractors, were tasked with standing up a shoot house at Range 19. Before they knew it, they were ushered underground at gunpoint only to encounter a "Monolithic Slab."

Long shares his story in great detail, recounting the sights and sounds of this UAP / UFO. Long describes a series of events that unfolded post his encounter that would ultimately separate he and his Father for life. This episode is a cold, hard look at how sinister the aftermath of such an encounter can be

 
However a race that advanced would certainly attempt to contact us and would be well advanced enough to allow for any hostilities. And if we spot another worldly craft, we would certainly investigate it before trying to shoot it down.
What do you mean to allow for any hostiles? How do you know they didn't investigate it before shooting it down.
 
I tend to agree with you, but how do you explain the phenomenon off the west coast that was leaked out regarding the tic tac shaped objects (UAP's) easily evading Navy jet aircraft? Flying at incredible speed but could instantly stop on a dime.

Enigma, true. the doubters have no answer for that, so they Mock you.

getting kinda old huh?


My theory has always been these are extraterrestrial, but not piloted by aliens as the distances of their origin are too far to support life in the time it takes to travel this far. They are AI piloted craft that have very very very long lifespans of use, which have traveled long periods of time.

actually they live right here on planet earth.

keep looking.

What's the point of these if they are too far away to communicate back, or the original builders are long gone. No idea.

Or perhaps the original builders are closer than we think?

they are. now you are on the Right Track.

Perhaps over time the original builders came closer and closer over eons?

Can you tell I write science fiction?
 
DC Long and his Father, then government contractors, were tasked with standing up a shoot house at Range 19. Before they knew it, they were ushered underground at gunpoint only to encounter a "Monolithic Slab."

Long shares his story in great detail, recounting the sights and sounds of this UAP / UFO. Long describes a series of events that unfolded post his encounter that would ultimately separate he and his Father for life. This episode is a cold, hard look at how sinister the aftermath of such an encounter can be


There isn't enough Tinfoil and chakra stones to make that nonsense believable.
 
Dr Steven Greer says they are waiting for us to be more civilized and not into war and nuclear weapons before they make official contact with the public.

yes and no.

i think Full Disclosure will come after WW three; then our fascist Leaders will employ them to run their Fascist World Order.

lately i have been writing/discussing that Order, with my thoughts on the North American Union, which will be a combo of USA, Canada, Greenland and Mexico

(anyone notice that Greenland and Canada have been in the news lately, ........um, it is starting to happen)
 
Here are the tik tak and go fast UAP videos:



 
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