Whistleblower says UFO retrieval program exists

[Mika-El]

For the majority of my life there has always been proof about to be revealed.

I bet that this is going to go exactly how all the other proof has gone.

In my humble opinion, I would say throughout my life, there has been proof revealed just not believed and/or rendered suspect by so many false or misleading stories designed to serve as disinformation to distract you from that evidence.

The key to disinformation is to insert a bit of truth with a lot of crap and with that in mind:

1. I would argue a great deal of what we think is proof of alien aircraft is probably explainable weather and other phenomena or experimental aircraft or things like birds, drones, satellites;

2. I would also argue there is compelling evidence of residual matter from debris, i.e., physical matter, (circumstantial evidence) to prove certain alien crashes;

3. I would argue with the advent of current video equipment and hand held devices, there is most certainly sufficient evidence of unidentified phenomena in the skies or coming and going from our open body waters;

4. I do not believe a damn thing I read or a damn thing governments release and I am highly skeptical about people who claim to channel aliens;

5. Mass sightings complete with many different sources of video that have been proven authentic speak for themselves as to unknown aircraft sightings;

6. Yes for sure the subject matter is full of misunderstandings, hoaxes, intentional misrepresentations, unintentional misunderstandings and confusion.

The question is not whether other forms of life off our planet exist-its when they might want to make contact with the average person. and like some on this forum I think it stands to reason they would find our governments deceitful and manipulative and too many of us divided and violent for them to release knowledge of themselves at this time-I myself think they have been monitoring us for thousands of years.

The amount of violence and disregard we show our other life forms on our own planet let alone other humans would surely rule out contact at this time.

Just look at this scary picture of a homo sapiens....would you go near it?

 

[Jezcoe]

Throughout my life, there has been proof revealed just not believed and/or distracted by so many false or misleading stories designed to serve as disinformation to distract you from that evidence.

The key to disinformation is to insert a bit of truth with a lot of crap.

1. I would argue a great deal of what we think is proof of alien aircraft is probably explainable weather and other phenomena or experimental aircraft or things like birds, drones, satellites;

2. I would argue there is compelling evidence of residual matter from debris, physical matter, (circumstantial evidence) to prove certain alien crashes;

3. I would argue with the advent of current video equipment and hand held devices, there is most certainly sufficient evidence of unidentfiied phenomena in the skies or coming and going from our open body waters'

4. I do not believe a damn thing I read or a damn thing governments release'

5. Mass sightings have corroborated uap/ufos;

6. The subject matter is full of misunderstandings, hoaxes, intentional misrepresentations, unintentional misunderstandings and confusion.

The question is not whether other forms of life off our planet exist-its when they might want to make contact withj the average person. and like some on this forum I think it stands to reason they would find our governments deceitful and manipulative and too many of us divided and violent for them to release knowledge of themselves at this time.

The amount of violence and disregard we show our other life forms on our own planet let alone other humans would surely rule out contact at this time.

My opinion is that if there were aliens visiting here there would be no question about it.

To an interstellar species… we are bugs.

 

[Mika-El]

My opinion is that if there were aliens visiting here there would be no question about it.

To an interstellar species… we are bugs.

Jez I agree. I am just adding to the discussion.

Hey Jez I think its possible many things can both exist and be questioned. I certainly get your points and do not argue them.

Food for thought-It could be to some species we would be seen as inferior to them but just like our scientists have now learned "bugs" have a way to communicate and exhibit intelligent planning and activities, I am sure many of them would be able to figure out that as divisive and violent as we are, we would also have some homo sapiens and other life species worth interacting with. I am sure they do and keep that to themselves...why share that and endanger the people they can communicate with on this planet.

I would suggest for example certain indigenous people have interacted with aliens and keep their knowledge to themselves the same way they do not give away where vulnerable endangered species may live. They know mainstream humanity in the so called civilized world is not ready.

I for example know of some subsistence hunters in rural areas who have shown me fur, excrement, bones, other evidence of bigfoot. I have smelled and heard their cries in the bush and the stick knockings. We did not violate Bigfoot's privacy or grounds. We leave. We left them trout and berries. I have seen some good videos of them that will not be shared by those hunters. I respect that and respect their respect of wildlife.. Humans are assholes. I do not blame other humans for keeping knowledge of the woods from us to prevent harm.

Same analogy with certain humans who in their cultures have interacted with such phenomena for centuries if not longer.

I would say, we should not underestimate what humans have seen and may choose not to reveal for fear of ridicule, or genuine concern that no good would come in revealing what they saw. I will leave it at that. Just talkin with you on the subject which I find fascinating and keep an open mind to.

 

[Jezcoe]

Jez I agree. I am just adding to the discussion.

Hey Jez I think its possible many things can both exist and be questioned. I certainly get your points and do not argue them.

Food for thought-It could be to some species we would be seen as inferior to them but just like our scientists have now learned "bugs" have a way to communicate and exhibit intelligent planning and activities, I am sure many of them would be able to figure out that as divisive and violent as we are, we would also have some homo sapiens and other life species worth interacting with. I am sure they do and keep that to themselves...why share that and endanger the people they can communicate with on this planet.

I would suggest for example certain indigenous people have interacted with aliens and keep their knowledge to themselves the same way they do not give away where vulnerable endangered species may live. They know mainstream humanity in the so called civilized world is not ready.

I for example know of some subsistence hunters in rural areas who have shown me fur, excrement, bones, other evidence of bigfoot. I have smelled and heard their cries in the bush and the stick knockings. We did not violate Bigfoot's privacy or grounds. We leave. We left them trout and berries. I have seen some good videos of them that will not be shared by those hunters. I respect that and respect their respect of wildlife.. Humans are assholes. I do not blame other humans for keeping knowledge of the woods from us to prevent harm.

Same analogy with certain humans who in their cultures have interacted with such phenomena for centuries if not longer.

I would say, we should not underestimate what humans have seen and may choose not to reveal for fear of ridicule, or genuine concern that no good would come in revealing what they saw. I will leave it at that. Just talkin with you on the subject which I find fascinating and keep an open mind to.

I just don’t buy it that interstellar aliens have come here.

First off…. It’s really really hard to travel between stars…. Like near impossibly hard.

So if they had that technology we would be little more than pets to them.

 

[Mika-El]

I just don’t buy it that interstellar aliens have come here.

First off…. It’s really really hard to travel between stars…. Like near impossibly hard.

So if they had that technology we would be little more than pets to them.

Well you think of travel in terms of where we humans are at. You would need to have people more knowledgeable them me explain possible ways to move not just in our universe but perhaps on many levels or dimensions of energy, Lol I am no quantitative physicist but I would say to you just because we are at a certain stage of travel does not mean other life forms have long since evolved.

Now I get your point, if someone is advanced on such technology would they not find us ignorant. Maybe. Probably but hang on. Have you ever spoken to say a scientist who studies, fish, bugs, birds, animals. I can guarantee you they would not call the life forms they study simply derogatory terms.

Could it be that when we humans talk in derogatory terms about things we feel have no value-that reflects only a portion of us who have not evolved to understanding all life is precious in its own way? Could it be if you had the time and opportunity let's say to study bugs, you would realize just how intelligent some of them are?

We humans have a tendency to quickly dismiss things as stupid, inferior. Its what we do. However some of us have tried to learn to stop that and adapt different approaches to learning and it may be such people could have learned to communicate or understand something you or I can not and will not share because they do not think in your current state of mind, it would do anything but confuse you.

I know for example in my line of work tracking down specific people over the years engaging in crimes, what I learned about humans just from practical exposure could be more different and more in depth and intense than what I also learned from studies.

In all the years I worked, learning never ended and still will not and I will die ignorant and learning.

So in regards to this subject, its easy to say we humans are ignorant. We are. However, we also have the potential to learn and evolve to more than just bugs as you call us. I am not saying we are as evolved as others but becoming intelligent is relative to how you put what you learn into practice. A person who keeps their life very simple (some would call them savage or uncivilized) but live in harmony with nature and avoid violence and hurting other life may seem primative but may seem more evolved than you or I to an alien in that they did not develop the self destructive behaviours you and I have in a world where we have been taught everything is disposable if it does not have an immediate use.

 

[Jezcoe]

Well you think of travel in terms of where we humans are at. You would need to have people more knowledgeable them me explain possible ways to move not just in our universe but perhaps on many levels or dimensions of energy, Lol I am no quantitative physicist but I would say to you just because we are at a certain stage of travel does not mean other life forms have long since evolved.

Now I get your point, if someone is advanced on such technology would they not find us ignorant. Maybe. Probably but hang on. Have you ever spoken to say a scientist who studies, fish, bugs, birds, animals. I can guarantee you they would not call the life forms they study simply derogatory terms.

Could it be that when we humans talk in derogatory terms about things we feel have no value-that reflects only a portion of us who have not evolved to understanding all life is precious in its own way? Could it be if you had the time and opportunity let's say to study bugs, you would realize just how intelligent some of them are?

We humans have a tendency to quickly dismiss things as stupid, inferior. Its what we do. However some of us have tried to learn to stop that and adapt different approaches to learning and it may be such people could have learned to communicate or understand something you or I can not and will not share because they do not think in your current state of mind, it would do anything but confuse you.

I know for example in my line of work tracking down specific people over the years engaging in crimes, what I learned about humans just from practical exposure could be more different and more in depth and intense than what I also learned from studies.

In all the years I worked, learning never ended and still will not and I will die ignorant and learning.

So in regards to this subject, its easy to say we humans are ignorant. We are. However, we also have the potential to learn and evolve to more than just bugs as you call us. I am not saying we are as evolved as others but becoming intelligent is relative to how you put what you learn into practice. A person who keeps their life very simple (some would call them savage or uncivilized) but live in harmony with nature and avoid violence and hurting other life may seem primative but may seem more evolved than you or I to an alien in that they did not develop the self destructive behaviours you and I have in a world where we have been taught everything is disposable if it does not have an immediate use.

To take the analogy of people studying the animal kingdom.

We don’t hide ourselves away from them.

 

[Mika-El]

To take the analogy of people studying the animal kingdom.

We don’t hide ourselves away from them.

Actually many do use camouflage. This leads me to suggest some have speculated aliens observe us but use cloaking devices to remain invisible or look like humans.


Here is the AI explanation of what I said:

Animal observation scientists use camouflage to observe animals in their natural habitats without being easily detected or recognized, allowing for unobtrusive study of behavior, ecology, and other aspects of animal life. Camouflage clothing and equipment help researchers blend into the environment, minimizing disturbance to the animals they are studying and enabling more natural observations.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Reduced Disturbance:
  Camouflage helps scientists minimize their visual impact on the animals, preventing them from being seen as a potential threat or distraction. This allows for more natural behavior to be observed.
• Improved Observation:
  By blending in with the surroundings, scientists can get closer to animals without being noticed, enabling detailed observation of their activities, interactions, and social dynamics.
  • Behavioral Ecology: Studying animal behavior in their natural environment, such as foraging strategies, social interactions, and communication.
  • Ecology: Examining animal-habitat relationships, population dynamics, and the impact of environmental factors.
  • Conservation Biology: Monitoring animal populations, assessing habitat quality, and evaluating the effectiveness of conservation efforts.
• Scientific Accuracy:
  By reducing their visual footprint, scientists can gather more reliable data on animal behavior and ecology, as the presence of a researcher can sometimes alter or influence what is being observed.

source: https://zslpublications.onlinelibra...:text=Abstract,on perception in other species.

 

[Jezcoe]

Actually many do use camouflage. This leads me to suggest some have speculated aliens observe us but use cloaking devices to remain invisible or look like humans.


Here is the AI explanation of what I said:

Animal observation scientists use camouflage to observe animals in their natural habitats without being easily detected or recognized, allowing for unobtrusive study of behavior, ecology, and other aspects of animal life. Camouflage clothing and equipment help researchers blend into the environment, minimizing disturbance to the animals they are studying and enabling more natural observations.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Reduced Disturbance:
  Camouflage helps scientists minimize their visual impact on the animals, preventing them from being seen as a potential threat or distraction. This allows for more natural behavior to be observed.
• Improved Observation:
  By blending in with the surroundings, scientists can get closer to animals without being noticed, enabling detailed observation of their activities, interactions, and social dynamics.
  • Behavioral Ecology: Studying animal behavior in their natural environment, such as foraging strategies, social interactions, and communication.
  • Ecology: Examining animal-habitat relationships, population dynamics, and the impact of environmental factors.
  • Conservation Biology: Monitoring animal populations, assessing habitat quality, and evaluating the effectiveness of conservation efforts.
• Scientific Accuracy:
  By reducing their visual footprint, scientists can gather more reliable data on animal behavior and ecology, as the presence of a researcher can sometimes alter or influence what is being observed.

source: https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jzo.12682#:~:text=Abstract,on perception in other species.

Yet many don’t use camouflage.

We don’t hide ourselves away from the species that we study.

I don’t see why an interstellar species with what we would view as having God like powers would have to hide from us.

 

[Mika-El]

Yet many don’t use camouflage.

We don’t hide ourselves away from the species that we study.

Yes most do. It is a basic principle of observing wild life behaviour to remain as much invisible as possible. The reason for that is to watch animals interact without tainting their behaviour as fear reaction or fleeing the observers. Common sense would tell you if I sit in a chair across from you and stare at you, you will be inhibited but if I look at you next door through a two way mirror you would exhibit behaviour you would not otherwise exhibit.

Animal behaviourlists who do directly interact with animals are involved in completely different studies that those behaviourlists watching animals in their uninterupted wild states. If I want to watch human behaviour in crowds or groups accurately I do not make myself visible.

With due respect you do not understand why and when there is direct communication and when there is not.

I don’t see why an interstellar species with what we would view as having God like powers would have to hide from us.

Of course you don't see them, There are many things you can't see starting with thousands of versions of wild life on this planet that remain invisible to your eye.

Your last statement assumes things do not and can not exist unless you can see them. That is not the case. There are many phenomena and life forms that require specialized assistance to be able to not just see their patterns or structure but understand them.

 

[Revelation]

Yes most do. It is a basic principle of observing wild life behaviour to remain as much invisible as possible. The reason for that is to watch animals interact without tainting their behaviour as fear reaction or fleeing the observers. Common sense would tell you if I sit in a chair across from you and stare at you, you will be inhibited but if I look at you next door through a two way mirror you would exhibit behaviour you would not otherwise exhibit.

it also protects them from fire at area 51 and other underground bases where they hang from.


Enormous fire breaks out by Area 51 sending UFO watchers into a frenzy:A livestream camera, set up on private land just outside the heavily guarded Groom Lake facility near Rachel, Nevada, captured eerie footage of smoke rising from deep within Area 51

Animal behaviourlists who do directly interact with animals are involved in completely different studies that those behaviourlists watching animals in their uninterupted wild states. If I want to watch human behaviour in crowds or groups accurately I do not make myself visible.

With due respect you do not understand why and when there is direct communication and when there is not.

Of course you don't see them, There are many things you can't see starting with thousands of versions of wild life on this planet that remain invisible to your eye.

Your last statement assumes things do not and can not exist unless you can see them. That is not the case. There are many phenomena and life forms that require specialized assistance to be able to not just see their patterns or structure but understand them.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Everything someone would need to plan and execute. Congress and Senate sat on their hands while whistleblowers revealed themselves to only have retaliation, threats to their finances and wellbeing as well as their families' lives endangered.

Until Congress can grant amnesty, protections and I mean physical protections, and funding to help these people stuck on the other side still provide for their families. It's a waste of time and exposes someone firsthand for no reason and subjects them to the negatives of coming forward. Members of Congress know what needs to happen but they choose not to do so.

Background on Herrera:

 

[uptower]

It's highly unlikely such a secret could stay hidden under multiple administrations - especially the leaky ones - for what, 80 years?

And what about the rest of the world and all their governments with their coups and collapses and periods of looting and anarchy? Surely records and hard evidence would have surfaced by now.

Aliens don't only visit New Mexico, surely.

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[Revelation]

It's highly unlikely such a secret could stay hidden under multiple administrations - especially the leaky ones - for what, 80 years?

And what about the rest of the world and all their governments with their coups and collapses and periods of looting and anarchy? Surely records and hard evidence would have surfaced by now.

Aliens don't only visit New Mexico, surely.

you would be surprised to know how things are kept secret in this country and the world. maybe best you don't know, some just can't handle certain types of info. and i don't share certain kinds either, don't ask.

maybe you need to understand 'compartmentalization' or the 'need to know'. most of us have Zero need to know, so don't know.

you have Zero need and can go away now.


saw this one in the news, this crash has been news for years, but has been given the Hush treatment. recently popped up again, interesting how weather balloons are such Big Secrets huh?......


Bombshell new investigation into Pennsylvania's Roswell as mystery of UFO crash deepens

'The police and the military, they were all over the place. And there were guys out there in dark suits. They were the ones that seemed to be in charge,' Weaver said.

'While we were standing there watching what was going on, the state police and the military came up to us and they told us, "If you don't move, we're going to confiscate your car." And I figured I better move,' he added.




blessings you all, nothing is happening and there are Zero secrets. please go away and watch CNN; thank you.



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[NOLA Dude]

Wow

 

[NOLA Dude]

Scientists have provided a chilling update on the mysterious 'interstellar object' that is racing through our solar system.

Using data from the Vera C Rubin Observatory, experts have revealed just how big the object, dubbed 3I/ATLAS, really is.

According to their analysis, the object measures roughly seven miles (11.2km) in diameter.

That's even bigger than Mount Everest – making 3I/ATLAS the largest interstellar object ever spotted.

Professor Avi Loeb, a theoretical physicist and cosmologist from Harvard University, has suggested that the object could be an alien spacecraft.

However, not everyone is so convinced.

Chris Lintott, an astronomer at the University of Oxford, told Live Science: 'Any suggestion that it's artificial is nonsense on stilts.'

Chilling update on interstellar object racing through our solar system

Using data from the Vera C Rubin Observatory, experts have revealed just how big the object, dubbed 3I/ATLAS, really is.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Is this the psyop plan to fake an alien invasion that many have said is coming? Probably not, but that was my first thought when I saw this.

 

[NOLA Dude]

2 minute video:

 

[NOLA Dude]

“They’re not making this stuff up. There’s something there. We just don’t know what it is.”

 

[Pound4abrown]

He's a shorter video about it

Id be more apt to believe his story, if he could do something about those "always shocked" eyes he's rocking.

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[snakestretcher]

Aliens avoid this rock

So would any advanced species seeing how primitively we behave. 'Humans still killing each other? How 21st century! Let's go check out Europa...'

 

[Perotista]

-Pilot says he worked as contractor for secret organization
-Jake Barber believes he recovered craft of nonhuman origin

A U.S. Air Force veteran believes he was involved in the recovery of alien technology while working for a long-rumored secret UFO retrieval program.

In an exclusive interview with NewsNation, whistleblower Jake Barber said he has contracted as a helicopter pilot to retrieve all kinds of downed craft, some of which he believes are of nonhuman origin.

“Just visually looking at the object on the ground, you could tell that it was extraordinary and anomalous,” Barber told NewsNation’s Ross Coulthart. “It was not human.”

When asked to describe the object, Barber said: “I saw an egg, a white egg.”

He added: “It’s inconsistent with anything I’d ever seen before. I can also tell you that the reaction by my team, we all knew we were dealing with something extraordinary.”

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/uap-whistleblower-ufo-retrieval-program/

The interview is supposed to include show retrieval footage. Even as someone who believes in UAP/UFO and that we've reversed engineered some of the UFO technology I'll believe it when I see it. There has been talk that whistleblowers would be coming forward around this time to expose the too secret compartmentalized UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs that are hidden from most of the government including the President.

Millions have seen UAP/UFO’s along with having quite a lot caught on camera. Even DOD released some film, the tic toc video. I have no doubt UAP/UFO’s exists, but as the name implies, they’re unidentified. It doesn’t mean that ET is piloting them. Most of the sighting are orbs. I have no doubt contingency plans exist in case of a crashed or down UFO. We have contingency plans on almost everything. When it comes to retrieval and reverse engineering, I’m a bit skeptical here. Being skeptical, doesn’t mean I would rule it out. I wouldn’t take this Barker’s word on it until more proof is provided. I imagine something like this would be at the TS, SAP, SCI level. That no further proof than his word will be forthcoming. The government is quite good at keeping secrets.