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Whistleblower possibly identified as Dem operative tied to Russian smear campaign

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Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.


Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.
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And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.
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In effect, Ciaramella helped generate the “Putin fired Comey” narrative, according to the research dossier making the rounds in Congress, a copy of which was obtained by RealClearInvestigations.

Ciaramella allegedly argued that “President Putin suggested that President Trump fire Comey,” the report said. “In the days after Comey’s firing, this presidential action was used to further political and media calls for the standup [sic] of the special counsel to investigate ‘Russia collusion.’ “
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https://www.realclearinvestigations...biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html
 
If it's a Republican, you'll believe it?
 
ecofarm said:
If it's a Republican, you'll believe it?
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If it was a Republican who didn't use their political bias and Shifty Schiff to twist the complaint into the most devious and damning form possible,...sure.
 
dobieg said:
If it was a Republican who didn't use their political bias and Shifty Schiff to twist the complaint into the most devious and damning form possible,...sure.
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Trying too hard. Is that for you or me?
 
So what did the WB get wrong so far?
 
dobieg said:
If it was a Republican who didn't use their political bias and Shifty Schiff to twist the complaint into the most devious and damning form possible,...sure.
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Here is the problem with all that. The WB has become a non-relevant witness as the partial transcript tells the whole story. It is now backed up by numerous officials in their under oath testimony. We all know what the president did and we know it was wrong. Many close to the president also tried to cover it up. Trump is a total moron and will finally get what he deserves. He will probably not be removed, but the stain of impeachment will stay with him forever.

They will vote today at 10:30am to proceed with the open phase of the inquiry. Hard core Trumpers won't be phased, but many others will. Trump will also loose in court today and people will be compelled to testify. It continues to go down hill for Trump.
 
CDN wrote up an interesting piece on Ciaramello:

Eric Ciaramella was a CIA analyst and expert on Ukraine and Russia. He was detailed to the Obama White House NSC as Director of Baltic and Eastern European Affairs including Ukraine. Ciaramella was a known Susan Rice protege. He is said to have traveled to Ukraine with Vice President Joe Biden twice.

He was a close associate of State Department anti-Trump partisan Victoria Nuland. Ciaramella was involved in the 2016 correspondence about the $1 billion dollar loan guarantee Biden held up until prosecutor Victor Shokin was fired.

Ciaramella was said to be traveling with Biden on that trip.

He was certainly in the loop on all things Ukraine. Including disinformation on Paul Manafort and Trump passed to Victoria Nuland by Ukrainian sources. Clinton donor Victor Pinchuk sent Ukrainian Member of Parliament Olga Bielkova to meet with Ciaramella. One day before Bielkova also met with infamous John McCain aide David Kramer.
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Ciaramello is not confirmed as the whistleblower, but all circumstantial evidence points squarely at him. We may never hear the official word on it because doing so would paint the Democrats’ impeachment narrative as one built like a house of cards.

The sheer fact the alleged whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, had attempted on multiple occasions to frame the President is enough to destroy the entire impeachment narrative. This is the boy who cried wolf every chance he got.
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If Eric Ciaramella really is the whistleblower, the whole impeachment narrative is decimated
 
The AntiDonald said:
Here is the problem with all that. The WB has become a non-relevant witness as the partial transcript tells the whole story. It is now backed up by numerous officials in their under oath testimony. We all know what the president did and we know it was wrong. Many close to the president also tried to cover it up. Trump is a total moron and will finally get what he deserves. He will probably not be removed, but the stain of impeachment will stay with him forever.

They will vote today at 10:30am to proceed with the open phase of the inquiry. Hard core Trumpers won't be phased, but many others will. Trump will also loose in court today and people will be compelled to testify. It continues to go down hill for Trump.
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Clinton was 'stained' with impeachment and gained 10 points in the polls.
 
dobieg said:
Clinton was 'stained' with impeachment and gained 10 points in the polls.
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Clinton lied about a private affair he had. Clinton wasn't a complete AH in everything he did. Clinton was at the end of his terms.

Trump asked a foreign government to provide an investigation into a political opponent. Clinton didn't hold up military aid for those investigations. Quite the difference. Which by the way, violates FEC laws.

Can you say Bribery/Extortion ?? You better learn how cause your going to be hearing a lot of it.
 
ocean515 said:
It's against the law to leak testimony given in private, during closed door meetings in high security bunkers. Just saying.
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It's against to law to storm a SKIF and bring in cellphones etc. If the GOP can get away with that, we may as well just do everything in the open anymore.
 
ocean515 said:
It's against the law to leak testimony given in private, during closed door meetings in high security bunkers. Just saying.
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Just as well your mischaracterisation is not what happened then.
 
The AntiDonald said:
Clinton lied about a private affair he had. Clinton wasn't a complete AH in everything he did. Clinton was at the end of his terms.

Trump asked a foreign government to provide an investigation into a political opponent. Clinton didn't hold up military aid for those investigations. Quite the difference. Which by the way, violates FEC laws.

Can you say Bribery/Extortion ?? You better learn how cause your going to be hearing a lot of it.
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I think the boiler room folks need to arm their operators with better material.

Biden threatens Ukraine, admits it, and there is nothing to see. President Trump discusses corruption in the past, and whether that's been addressed, and he should be thrown from office.

That leap is the challenge the boiler room folks need to try and overcome, and they aren't doing a very good job with it.
 
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The AntiDonald said:
It's against to law to storm a SKIF and bring in cellphones etc. If the GOP can get away with that, we may as well just do everything in the open anymore.
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They didn't bring in cell phones.

And it's SCIF.

A Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF ; pronounced "skiff"), in British and United States military, national security/national defense and intelligence parlance, is an enclosed area within a building that is used to process Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) types of classified information.​

A SKIF is something the Democrats will be looking for after their boat sinks.
 
ocean515 said:
They didn't bring in cell phones.

And it's SCIF.

A Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF ; pronounced "skiff"), in British and United States military, national security/national defense and intelligence parlance, is an enclosed area within a building that is used to process Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) types of classified information.​

A SKIF is something the Democrats will be looking for after their boat sinks.
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Loses some of the momentum, when correcting another poster and you commit the same error........just sayin’.

Skiff - Wikipedia
 
ocean515 said:
What, I can't have a play on words when responding to a face plant from a political hack?

Come on, lets not get so testy.
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You so clever!
 
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