Which states have the highest and lowest gun death rates in the U.S.?

[vegas giants]

I have. Magazine subscriptions are a measurement of magazines, not guns. Surveys only show ownership for the people who participated, and answered honestly. There is no available data set or metric which can or does measure ownership rates.

Prove dishonesty

 

[rahl]

Prove dishonesty

I don't have to. Even if every person answered honestly, it is still not in any way a valid metric to measure ownership rates. It's only valid to show the people who answered the survey.

 

[vegas giants]

I don't have to. Even if every person answered honestly, it is still not in any way a valid metric to measure ownership rates. It's only valid to show the people who answered the survey.

No proof?


Dismissed

 

[Rich2018]

No proof?


Dismissed

He'll next claim to have already shown you proof and to have refuted you - don't bother to ask him where or when
Also he think his opinion is fact and evidence enough.

 

[vegas giants]

He'll next claim to have already shown you proof and to have refuted you - don't bother to ask him where or when
Also he think his opinion is fact and evidence enough.

Yep. That's his MO

 

[rahl]

No proof?


Dismissed

you aren't able to dismiss me. I just showed you that it can't be measured, because there is no metric or data set which can.

 

[vegas giants]

you aren't able to dismiss me. I just showed you that it can't be measured, because there is no metric or data set which can.

Dismissed

 

[rahl]

Yep. That's his MO

yes, refuting your bullshit and exposing both of your trolling, is my MO.

 

[Rich2018]

Yep. That's his MO

I love he oft used phrase "we both know that...."

 

[vegas giants]

I love he oft used phrase "we both know that...."

It's just trolling

 

[rahl]

Dismissed

Which states have the highest and lowest gun death rates in the U.S.?

I have. Magazine subscriptions are a measurement of magazines, not guns. Surveys only show ownership for the people who participated, and answered honestly. There is no available data set or metric which can or does measure ownership rates. Prove dishonesty

debatepolitics.com

 

[vegas giants]

Which states have the highest and lowest gun death rates in the U.S.?

I have. Magazine subscriptions are a measurement of magazines, not guns. Surveys only show ownership for the people who participated, and answered honestly. There is no available data set or metric which can or does measure ownership rates. Prove dishonesty

debatepolitics.com

OK thanks

 

[vegas giants]

The demographics of gun ownership

Understanding gun ownership in America is not as simple as knowing who does and does not own a gun. Some Americans who don’t personally own guns live with

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Rich2018]

OK thanks

Don't feed him.

 

[Lovebug]

Why is the State to State comparison valid but urban to rural comparisons are not? The deadliest Cities in the US happen to be in red and blue States, but does that mean the State is the exclusive reason for the violence in a City? Say, St Louis or Baltimore, Birmingham or Detroit, Dayton or Baton Rouge… seems to me that if you take the City States out of the State overall we end up with a very different conversation on who is in charge at each level and what is and is not being done about it that is meaningful.

Your post made be look up my own state. A comparison between rural and urban as well as Memphis vs Nashville is made.

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[Sweden]

Red states are also higher in firearm suicide rates than blue states, if you are looking at the individual categories. What does that tell me? That in addition to lax gun control laws, they have no interest in improving mental health care.

Improve psychiatric care and you will see the gun deaths rate go way down.

Another thing it should tell you is that a higher proportion of those who live in red states own guns. Could me this is a more important factor than mental health care. The effectiveness of mental health care throughout the the world is often poor.

 

[Rich2018]

Another thing it should tell you is that a higher proportion of those who live in red states own guns. Could me this is a more important factor than mental health care. The effectiveness of mental health care throughout the the world is often poor.

Probably because "red" states have more liberal gun laws.

 

[poppopfox]

Once again the dishonest state level comparison.

Nothing dishonest about comparing states with lax gun control to those with stricter standards.

The real comparison is by counties. St Louis and New Orleans drive the murder rate in MO and LA respectively.

Comparing counties is real while comparing states is not?

Here, read this:

Murder, They Spun: Selective Stats Leave Suspicious Fingerprints All Over the Crime Debate

As gun violence has spiked across the country, Republicans have pointed to the steady stream of shootings in Democratic-controlled cities such as Chicago, Detroit, and St. Louis to argue that strict g

www.realclearinvestigations.com

No thanks. "Co-author John R. Lott Jr. is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, whose research is cited in this article." If an author has to cite his own research then his credibility is questionable.
He (Lott) is an American economist, political commentator, and gun rights advocate.
He has authored books such as More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics. He is best known as a gun rights advocate[1][2][3] and has argued against restrictions on owning and carrying guns. Newsweek referred to Lott as "The Gun Crowd's Guru."[5] (Wiki sourced)

 

[Rich2018]

Nothing dishonest about comparing states with lax gun control to those with stricter standards.

Comparing counties is real while comparing states is not?

No thanks. "Co-author John R. Lott Jr. is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, whose research is cited in this article." If an author has to cite his own research then his credibility is questionable.
He (Lott) is an American economist, political commentator, and gun rights advocate.
He has authored books such as More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics. He is best known as a gun rights advocate[1][2][3] and has argued against restrictions on owning and carrying guns. Newsweek referred to Lott as "The Gun Crowd's Guru."[5] (Wiki sourced)

I'm reminded of a poster on here who once said the USA has no peer countries

 

[RF667799]

I'm reminded of a poster on here who once said the USA has no peer countries

I'll bet you really showed him what for!

 

[RF667799]

Nothing dishonest about comparing states with lax gun control to those with stricter standards.

Comparing counties is real while comparing states is not?

No thanks. "Co-author John R. Lott Jr. is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, whose research is cited in this article." If an author has to cite his own research then his credibility is questionable.
He (Lott) is an American economist, political commentator, and gun rights advocate.
He has authored books such as More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics. He is best known as a gun rights advocate[1][2][3] and has argued against restrictions on owning and carrying guns. Newsweek referred to Lott as "The Gun Crowd's Guru."[5] (Wiki sourced)

Seems like it would make as much sense to compare areas that have the same laws, if you were wanting to try to get an idea if those laws were effective. The state comparison seems silly, unless the entire point is to arrive at a foregone conclusion. Even at that, it doesn't work well. There are states with lax gun laws that have much lower homicides than states with stringent gun laws.

 

[vegas giants]

Seems like it would make as much sense to compare areas that have the same laws, if you were wanting to try to get an idea if those laws were effective.

Let's do that. States with similar laws have the highest gun death rates

 

[RF667799]

Let's do that. States with similar laws have the highest gun death rates

My damn curiosity...

"Similar" is not "same".

The honesty of your posts hasn't improved.

Later.

 

[vegas giants]

My damn curiosity...

"Similar" is not "same".

The honesty of your posts hasn't improved.

Later.

Yes similar. Your reading comprehension remains lacking

You seek something that is impossible.....because you want nothing to change

 

[rahl]

The demographics of gun ownership

Understanding gun ownership in America is not as simple as knowing who does and does not own a gun. Some Americans who don’t personally own guns live with

www.pewresearch.org

it's not possible to determine gun ownership. there is no data set or metric which can or does measure it.