We'd just trade our oranges and wine for water and electricity.
NY maybe if we're talking about the state, plenty of resources upstate. CA, no way, they'd collapse without the water and electricity from other states. Not sustainable.
We'd just trade our oranges and wine for water and electricity.
Yeah that'll get you, well, no takers. Plus, it'll be interesting seeing you grow oranges without water and electricity. :mrgreen:
That's why we'd use them to trade for water. Just try getting along without Cali wine. What are you going to drink, Coke? Pepsi? Bud Light?
Other states make wine as good as or better than CA wine (my own included). Some of would miss humboldt county a bit though. :mrgreen:
Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.
Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
would love to see California gone.
Careful what you wish for. Remember, California is a net payer of federal taxes.
Four states have been former republics. Several have sporadic or persistent secession movements.
Which state, if it left the US, would make the most functional new country?
Canada made the most functional new country by winning the War of 1812.
we could live with the loss.
I do not know about a lot of the makeup of each state, but it would seem like California (especially northern) has the water, weather, ports -
Northern California seems like it could fair well from a resource standpoint.
Can we dump SoCal?:lamo
I do not know about a lot of the makeup of each state, but it would seem like California (especially northern) has the water, weather, ports -
Northern California seems like it could fair well from a resource standpoint.
Can we dump SoCal?:lamo
I say we dump everything west of the Coast Range going north up to and including San Francisco, and everything south of the Tehapis, and make a new state out of the rest. Anyone with me?
It would be a red state, BTW.
No ****. You've got the same landmass as the continental US and the same resources, mostly untapped, that we've largely used. One tenth the population of the US and everywhere you go in the world people welcome you, at the very least tolerate you. There's a lot to like.
I do not know about a lot of the makeup of each state, but it would seem like California (especially northern) has the water, weather, ports -
Northern California seems like it could fair well from a resource standpoint.
Can we dump SoCal?:lamo
We like to share too - unfortunately, when Democrats lead in Washington, they snub our generousity.
Well, if I were in my 20s/early 30s again I'd move up that way in a heartbeat.
When I lived in NoCal I advocated splitting the state and cutting off SoCal's water. We would always have plenty of water if we didn't have to ship so much south.Heh, my grandmother was all over that last. I think NorCal could almost make it on it's own if it didn't have to support SoCal. They get hit pretty hard by drought though and have to come begging us for water from time to time. They'd have to put in a few more dams for the electricity.
When I lived in NoCal I advocated splitting the state and cutting off SoCal's water. We would always have plenty of water if we didn't have to ship so much south.
I say we dump everything west of the Coast Range going north up to and including San Francisco, and everything south of the Tehapis, and make a new state out of the rest. Anyone with me?
It would be a red state, BTW.
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